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socrattt
Participant[quote=cooprider]Raise and interest rates and give all politicians term limits and pay cuts so they earn what an average American earns.
If they want to represent us, they should have to live like us.[/quote]
Coop, great point! Most of these guys in office are nothing more than an overrated high school class president, just a bit more corrupt. I have always said that political positions should come with requirements that include running a successful business or having some higher qualifications, not just an education (I wasn’t a huge fan of Mitt Romney, but that man probably was best qualified from a business standpoint to run this country). I dropped out of college to start a thriving company that still seems to be doing quite well. From an education standpoint I don’t qualify to be a politician, but from a business standpoint I think I would do a hell of a lot better than most guys in there right now. My only problem is I would actually be voting on behalf of the people in this country which doesn’t get you too far. Everyone goes to the right or left, while I believe the path to stability in this country is narrow and straight!
socrattt
Participant[quote=cooprider]Raise and interest rates and give all politicians term limits and pay cuts so they earn what an average American earns.
If they want to represent us, they should have to live like us.[/quote]
Coop, great point! Most of these guys in office are nothing more than an overrated high school class president, just a bit more corrupt. I have always said that political positions should come with requirements that include running a successful business or having some higher qualifications, not just an education (I wasn’t a huge fan of Mitt Romney, but that man probably was best qualified from a business standpoint to run this country). I dropped out of college to start a thriving company that still seems to be doing quite well. From an education standpoint I don’t qualify to be a politician, but from a business standpoint I think I would do a hell of a lot better than most guys in there right now. My only problem is I would actually be voting on behalf of the people in this country which doesn’t get you too far. Everyone goes to the right or left, while I believe the path to stability in this country is narrow and straight!
socrattt
Participant[quote=cooprider]Raise and interest rates and give all politicians term limits and pay cuts so they earn what an average American earns.
If they want to represent us, they should have to live like us.[/quote]
Coop, great point! Most of these guys in office are nothing more than an overrated high school class president, just a bit more corrupt. I have always said that political positions should come with requirements that include running a successful business or having some higher qualifications, not just an education (I wasn’t a huge fan of Mitt Romney, but that man probably was best qualified from a business standpoint to run this country). I dropped out of college to start a thriving company that still seems to be doing quite well. From an education standpoint I don’t qualify to be a politician, but from a business standpoint I think I would do a hell of a lot better than most guys in there right now. My only problem is I would actually be voting on behalf of the people in this country which doesn’t get you too far. Everyone goes to the right or left, while I believe the path to stability in this country is narrow and straight!
socrattt
Participant[quote=cooprider]Raise and interest rates and give all politicians term limits and pay cuts so they earn what an average American earns.
If they want to represent us, they should have to live like us.[/quote]
Coop, great point! Most of these guys in office are nothing more than an overrated high school class president, just a bit more corrupt. I have always said that political positions should come with requirements that include running a successful business or having some higher qualifications, not just an education (I wasn’t a huge fan of Mitt Romney, but that man probably was best qualified from a business standpoint to run this country). I dropped out of college to start a thriving company that still seems to be doing quite well. From an education standpoint I don’t qualify to be a politician, but from a business standpoint I think I would do a hell of a lot better than most guys in there right now. My only problem is I would actually be voting on behalf of the people in this country which doesn’t get you too far. Everyone goes to the right or left, while I believe the path to stability in this country is narrow and straight!
socrattt
Participant[quote=CostaMesa]Absolutely hilarious considering the Republicans are the ones trying to kill the ‘Buy American’ provisions in the Stimulus Bill.
WASHINGTON, Feb 4 (Reuters) – Senator John McCain, an Arizona Republican, was expected to offer an amendment to strip the Buy American provision from the Senate’s stimulus bill
(02-03) 04:00 PST Washington — The top Senate Republican, Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, said Monday that the measure should be stripped from the bill
LEt’s see how this math works.
Joey sells American steel so Tony can build a bridge. Two American jobs.
Lin sells Chinese steel so Tony can build a bridge. One American job. Price of bridge about 3% less.Doesn’t make a speck of sense to me. There’s a reason the Republicans are the MINORITY party – because they’re totally out of touch with reality![/quote]
CostaMesa, I don’t think I was trying to take sides here. I personally think both parties are a bunch of knuckle heads. Obviously I can see you voted in HOPE that Obama would save the world. Maybe all the liberals will realize that at this point both parties have absolutely destroyed this country, including their own.
The bipartisan garbage needs to end. We need to focus on America and the fundamentals that brought this wonderful country to be the superpower of the world. We need to nix the corrupt politicians. I also read that Obama hired another lobbyist recently. I am just so puzzled with these guys. They create executive orders and then they break their own rules.
I smell an unemployment rate of 10% by July and once that happens all bets are off my friends. If you don’t believe there will be civil unrest with a 10% unemployment rate along with many other negative factors you will be sorely mistaken. America will be begging for mercy shortly and I don’t think a trillion dollar stimulus plan is the answer. I think we need to beg before we borrow! We need to learn how to save and not spend. How to produce and not consume. All these will happen eventually, unfortunately at the expense and lives of many Americans.
socrattt
Participant[quote=CostaMesa]Absolutely hilarious considering the Republicans are the ones trying to kill the ‘Buy American’ provisions in the Stimulus Bill.
WASHINGTON, Feb 4 (Reuters) – Senator John McCain, an Arizona Republican, was expected to offer an amendment to strip the Buy American provision from the Senate’s stimulus bill
(02-03) 04:00 PST Washington — The top Senate Republican, Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, said Monday that the measure should be stripped from the bill
LEt’s see how this math works.
Joey sells American steel so Tony can build a bridge. Two American jobs.
Lin sells Chinese steel so Tony can build a bridge. One American job. Price of bridge about 3% less.Doesn’t make a speck of sense to me. There’s a reason the Republicans are the MINORITY party – because they’re totally out of touch with reality![/quote]
CostaMesa, I don’t think I was trying to take sides here. I personally think both parties are a bunch of knuckle heads. Obviously I can see you voted in HOPE that Obama would save the world. Maybe all the liberals will realize that at this point both parties have absolutely destroyed this country, including their own.
The bipartisan garbage needs to end. We need to focus on America and the fundamentals that brought this wonderful country to be the superpower of the world. We need to nix the corrupt politicians. I also read that Obama hired another lobbyist recently. I am just so puzzled with these guys. They create executive orders and then they break their own rules.
I smell an unemployment rate of 10% by July and once that happens all bets are off my friends. If you don’t believe there will be civil unrest with a 10% unemployment rate along with many other negative factors you will be sorely mistaken. America will be begging for mercy shortly and I don’t think a trillion dollar stimulus plan is the answer. I think we need to beg before we borrow! We need to learn how to save and not spend. How to produce and not consume. All these will happen eventually, unfortunately at the expense and lives of many Americans.
socrattt
Participant[quote=CostaMesa]Absolutely hilarious considering the Republicans are the ones trying to kill the ‘Buy American’ provisions in the Stimulus Bill.
WASHINGTON, Feb 4 (Reuters) – Senator John McCain, an Arizona Republican, was expected to offer an amendment to strip the Buy American provision from the Senate’s stimulus bill
(02-03) 04:00 PST Washington — The top Senate Republican, Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, said Monday that the measure should be stripped from the bill
LEt’s see how this math works.
Joey sells American steel so Tony can build a bridge. Two American jobs.
Lin sells Chinese steel so Tony can build a bridge. One American job. Price of bridge about 3% less.Doesn’t make a speck of sense to me. There’s a reason the Republicans are the MINORITY party – because they’re totally out of touch with reality![/quote]
CostaMesa, I don’t think I was trying to take sides here. I personally think both parties are a bunch of knuckle heads. Obviously I can see you voted in HOPE that Obama would save the world. Maybe all the liberals will realize that at this point both parties have absolutely destroyed this country, including their own.
The bipartisan garbage needs to end. We need to focus on America and the fundamentals that brought this wonderful country to be the superpower of the world. We need to nix the corrupt politicians. I also read that Obama hired another lobbyist recently. I am just so puzzled with these guys. They create executive orders and then they break their own rules.
I smell an unemployment rate of 10% by July and once that happens all bets are off my friends. If you don’t believe there will be civil unrest with a 10% unemployment rate along with many other negative factors you will be sorely mistaken. America will be begging for mercy shortly and I don’t think a trillion dollar stimulus plan is the answer. I think we need to beg before we borrow! We need to learn how to save and not spend. How to produce and not consume. All these will happen eventually, unfortunately at the expense and lives of many Americans.
socrattt
Participant[quote=CostaMesa]Absolutely hilarious considering the Republicans are the ones trying to kill the ‘Buy American’ provisions in the Stimulus Bill.
WASHINGTON, Feb 4 (Reuters) – Senator John McCain, an Arizona Republican, was expected to offer an amendment to strip the Buy American provision from the Senate’s stimulus bill
(02-03) 04:00 PST Washington — The top Senate Republican, Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, said Monday that the measure should be stripped from the bill
LEt’s see how this math works.
Joey sells American steel so Tony can build a bridge. Two American jobs.
Lin sells Chinese steel so Tony can build a bridge. One American job. Price of bridge about 3% less.Doesn’t make a speck of sense to me. There’s a reason the Republicans are the MINORITY party – because they’re totally out of touch with reality![/quote]
CostaMesa, I don’t think I was trying to take sides here. I personally think both parties are a bunch of knuckle heads. Obviously I can see you voted in HOPE that Obama would save the world. Maybe all the liberals will realize that at this point both parties have absolutely destroyed this country, including their own.
The bipartisan garbage needs to end. We need to focus on America and the fundamentals that brought this wonderful country to be the superpower of the world. We need to nix the corrupt politicians. I also read that Obama hired another lobbyist recently. I am just so puzzled with these guys. They create executive orders and then they break their own rules.
I smell an unemployment rate of 10% by July and once that happens all bets are off my friends. If you don’t believe there will be civil unrest with a 10% unemployment rate along with many other negative factors you will be sorely mistaken. America will be begging for mercy shortly and I don’t think a trillion dollar stimulus plan is the answer. I think we need to beg before we borrow! We need to learn how to save and not spend. How to produce and not consume. All these will happen eventually, unfortunately at the expense and lives of many Americans.
socrattt
Participant[quote=CostaMesa]Absolutely hilarious considering the Republicans are the ones trying to kill the ‘Buy American’ provisions in the Stimulus Bill.
WASHINGTON, Feb 4 (Reuters) – Senator John McCain, an Arizona Republican, was expected to offer an amendment to strip the Buy American provision from the Senate’s stimulus bill
(02-03) 04:00 PST Washington — The top Senate Republican, Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, said Monday that the measure should be stripped from the bill
LEt’s see how this math works.
Joey sells American steel so Tony can build a bridge. Two American jobs.
Lin sells Chinese steel so Tony can build a bridge. One American job. Price of bridge about 3% less.Doesn’t make a speck of sense to me. There’s a reason the Republicans are the MINORITY party – because they’re totally out of touch with reality![/quote]
CostaMesa, I don’t think I was trying to take sides here. I personally think both parties are a bunch of knuckle heads. Obviously I can see you voted in HOPE that Obama would save the world. Maybe all the liberals will realize that at this point both parties have absolutely destroyed this country, including their own.
The bipartisan garbage needs to end. We need to focus on America and the fundamentals that brought this wonderful country to be the superpower of the world. We need to nix the corrupt politicians. I also read that Obama hired another lobbyist recently. I am just so puzzled with these guys. They create executive orders and then they break their own rules.
I smell an unemployment rate of 10% by July and once that happens all bets are off my friends. If you don’t believe there will be civil unrest with a 10% unemployment rate along with many other negative factors you will be sorely mistaken. America will be begging for mercy shortly and I don’t think a trillion dollar stimulus plan is the answer. I think we need to beg before we borrow! We need to learn how to save and not spend. How to produce and not consume. All these will happen eventually, unfortunately at the expense and lives of many Americans.
socrattt
ParticipantConcho, I’ve spent plenty of time in third world countries and I have had guns pointed in my face a number of times. My family is from South Africa and if you really want to experience crime go spend a few weeks in Johannesburg.
I think what you fail to understand is the fundamentals are breaking down in this country and fast. Whether we are talking Biblical times or today, crime and drugs have always been around, that doesn’t necessarily destroy a country. In fact you wouldn’t have a normal society without it.
We could all gather in community groups to help stop what may occur soon in this country, but we don’t have the power anymore. How do stop hyper inflation and the printing of trillions of dollars? How do end a possible trade war with China? These larger issues our citizens have no control over. We use to have a vote on key decisions, now a vote means nothing.
Our society has failed ethically, morally and economically. The biggest issue now is that this a global problem. 20 years ago you could catch a 10 hour flight either way and not have a worry in the world. The US, as the Roman Empire, is center of the Universe. When the nucleus breaks down everything crumbles along with it.
Just a little fact at what happens at a government that cannot sustain itself. Iceland is officially done today!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090126/ap_on_bi_ge/eu_iceland_crisis
socrattt
ParticipantConcho, I’ve spent plenty of time in third world countries and I have had guns pointed in my face a number of times. My family is from South Africa and if you really want to experience crime go spend a few weeks in Johannesburg.
I think what you fail to understand is the fundamentals are breaking down in this country and fast. Whether we are talking Biblical times or today, crime and drugs have always been around, that doesn’t necessarily destroy a country. In fact you wouldn’t have a normal society without it.
We could all gather in community groups to help stop what may occur soon in this country, but we don’t have the power anymore. How do stop hyper inflation and the printing of trillions of dollars? How do end a possible trade war with China? These larger issues our citizens have no control over. We use to have a vote on key decisions, now a vote means nothing.
Our society has failed ethically, morally and economically. The biggest issue now is that this a global problem. 20 years ago you could catch a 10 hour flight either way and not have a worry in the world. The US, as the Roman Empire, is center of the Universe. When the nucleus breaks down everything crumbles along with it.
Just a little fact at what happens at a government that cannot sustain itself. Iceland is officially done today!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090126/ap_on_bi_ge/eu_iceland_crisis
socrattt
ParticipantConcho, I’ve spent plenty of time in third world countries and I have had guns pointed in my face a number of times. My family is from South Africa and if you really want to experience crime go spend a few weeks in Johannesburg.
I think what you fail to understand is the fundamentals are breaking down in this country and fast. Whether we are talking Biblical times or today, crime and drugs have always been around, that doesn’t necessarily destroy a country. In fact you wouldn’t have a normal society without it.
We could all gather in community groups to help stop what may occur soon in this country, but we don’t have the power anymore. How do stop hyper inflation and the printing of trillions of dollars? How do end a possible trade war with China? These larger issues our citizens have no control over. We use to have a vote on key decisions, now a vote means nothing.
Our society has failed ethically, morally and economically. The biggest issue now is that this a global problem. 20 years ago you could catch a 10 hour flight either way and not have a worry in the world. The US, as the Roman Empire, is center of the Universe. When the nucleus breaks down everything crumbles along with it.
Just a little fact at what happens at a government that cannot sustain itself. Iceland is officially done today!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090126/ap_on_bi_ge/eu_iceland_crisis
socrattt
ParticipantConcho, I’ve spent plenty of time in third world countries and I have had guns pointed in my face a number of times. My family is from South Africa and if you really want to experience crime go spend a few weeks in Johannesburg.
I think what you fail to understand is the fundamentals are breaking down in this country and fast. Whether we are talking Biblical times or today, crime and drugs have always been around, that doesn’t necessarily destroy a country. In fact you wouldn’t have a normal society without it.
We could all gather in community groups to help stop what may occur soon in this country, but we don’t have the power anymore. How do stop hyper inflation and the printing of trillions of dollars? How do end a possible trade war with China? These larger issues our citizens have no control over. We use to have a vote on key decisions, now a vote means nothing.
Our society has failed ethically, morally and economically. The biggest issue now is that this a global problem. 20 years ago you could catch a 10 hour flight either way and not have a worry in the world. The US, as the Roman Empire, is center of the Universe. When the nucleus breaks down everything crumbles along with it.
Just a little fact at what happens at a government that cannot sustain itself. Iceland is officially done today!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090126/ap_on_bi_ge/eu_iceland_crisis
socrattt
ParticipantConcho, I’ve spent plenty of time in third world countries and I have had guns pointed in my face a number of times. My family is from South Africa and if you really want to experience crime go spend a few weeks in Johannesburg.
I think what you fail to understand is the fundamentals are breaking down in this country and fast. Whether we are talking Biblical times or today, crime and drugs have always been around, that doesn’t necessarily destroy a country. In fact you wouldn’t have a normal society without it.
We could all gather in community groups to help stop what may occur soon in this country, but we don’t have the power anymore. How do stop hyper inflation and the printing of trillions of dollars? How do end a possible trade war with China? These larger issues our citizens have no control over. We use to have a vote on key decisions, now a vote means nothing.
Our society has failed ethically, morally and economically. The biggest issue now is that this a global problem. 20 years ago you could catch a 10 hour flight either way and not have a worry in the world. The US, as the Roman Empire, is center of the Universe. When the nucleus breaks down everything crumbles along with it.
Just a little fact at what happens at a government that cannot sustain itself. Iceland is officially done today!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090126/ap_on_bi_ge/eu_iceland_crisis
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