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Not that anyone is counting but I just remembered this article that I read in January 2009 about how 2008 was the worst year since 1946 in regards to job losses:

http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/09/news/economy/jobs_december/index.htm

And then I kind of got to thinking, what are the numbers like this year. Well ladies and gentleman, we have already surpassed those numbers of 2008 at the end of March and now we have lost 50% more jobs by June 2009 than the total of 2008 if you can believe that. And we may be close to doubling the numbers we saw in 2008. That means that in 2009 we could lose over 5 million jobs, maybe more. Kind of a scary thought, but at least people still think that the real estate market is turning around!!

http://money.cnn.com/2009/04/03/news/economy/jobs_march/index.htm

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Not that anyone is counting but I just remembered this article that I read in January 2009 about how 2008 was the worst year since 1946 in regards to job losses:

http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/09/news/economy/jobs_december/index.htm

And then I kind of got to thinking, what are the numbers like this year. Well ladies and gentleman, we have already surpassed those numbers of 2008 at the end of March and now we have lost 50% more jobs by June 2009 than the total of 2008 if you can believe that. And we may be close to doubling the numbers we saw in 2008. That means that in 2009 we could lose over 5 million jobs, maybe more. Kind of a scary thought, but at least people still think that the real estate market is turning around!!

http://money.cnn.com/2009/04/03/news/economy/jobs_march/index.htm

[socrattt]

Not that anyone is counting but I just remembered this article that I read in January 2009 about how 2008 was the worst year since 1946 in regards to job losses:

http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/09/news/economy/jobs_december/index.htm

And then I kind of got to thinking, what are the numbers like this year. Well ladies and gentleman, we have already surpassed those numbers of 2008 at the end of March and now we have lost 50% more jobs by June 2009 than the total of 2008 if you can believe that. And we may be close to doubling the numbers we saw in 2008. That means that in 2009 we could lose over 5 million jobs, maybe more. Kind of a scary thought, but at least people still think that the real estate market is turning around!!

http://money.cnn.com/2009/04/03/news/economy/jobs_march/index.htm

[socrattt]

Not that anyone is counting but I just remembered this article that I read in January 2009 about how 2008 was the worst year since 1946 in regards to job losses:

http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/09/news/economy/jobs_december/index.htm

And then I kind of got to thinking, what are the numbers like this year. Well ladies and gentleman, we have already surpassed those numbers of 2008 at the end of March and now we have lost 50% more jobs by June 2009 than the total of 2008 if you can believe that. And we may be close to doubling the numbers we saw in 2008. That means that in 2009 we could lose over 5 million jobs, maybe more. Kind of a scary thought, but at least people still think that the real estate market is turning around!!

http://money.cnn.com/2009/04/03/news/economy/jobs_march/index.htm

[socrattt]

Not that anyone is counting but I just remembered this article that I read in January 2009 about how 2008 was the worst year since 1946 in regards to job losses:

http://money.cnn.com/2009/01/09/news/economy/jobs_december/index.htm

And then I kind of got to thinking, what are the numbers like this year. Well ladies and gentleman, we have already surpassed those numbers of 2008 at the end of March and now we have lost 50% more jobs by June 2009 than the total of 2008 if you can believe that. And we may be close to doubling the numbers we saw in 2008. That means that in 2009 we could lose over 5 million jobs, maybe more. Kind of a scary thought, but at least people still think that the real estate market is turning around!!

http://money.cnn.com/2009/04/03/news/economy/jobs_march/index.htm

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[quote=Veritas] Both parties leave a lot to be desired and both will have to morph into something that supports core values of the majority of those the government serves or neither will survive. A party built on a loose coalition of fringe groups will not last in the long haul and will not survive the looming monetary crisis or leadership crisis.[/quote]

Veritas, extremely good point and what many fail to understand. This main post was merely addressed to take the side of Obama. Let’s be honest Obama has a lot of issues we could frown upon as well. The point is simple, neither Dems or Repubs seem to get the point. I think the real problem lies in the relationship between business and state. If we could tear those two apart and focus more on the people rather than the internal relationships that run this country we would be in a much better position.

No party will get it right. No one is hailing Obama as the Messiah anymore because it is obvious he isn’t going to fix the problem and is now in a better position of causing greater harm than good. I thought his goals entailed curbing spending. Look where we are today. Spending $1.6 trillion on a health care bill while our government is essentially bankrupt is ridiculous. Why can’t CA or our country figure out how to stop this mess? It isn’t as hard as it looks, the problem is we have too many corrupt politicians looking out for their best interests and businesses lobbying for their piece of the pie. There are plenty of projects that can be cut that many of our citizens would agree upon.

I am tired of all this garbage. I am tired of hearing Bush did this and Obama did that. This country is joke and we, the people, need to take a stand and help solve the problems that brought us here. If we don’t start taking control as citizens our government will run this country into the ground! We haven’t seen this happen yet (except on paper). I believe we are months away from a lot of changes as those bailouts gave us some breathing room!

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[quote=Veritas] Both parties leave a lot to be desired and both will have to morph into something that supports core values of the majority of those the government serves or neither will survive. A party built on a loose coalition of fringe groups will not last in the long haul and will not survive the looming monetary crisis or leadership crisis.[/quote]

Veritas, extremely good point and what many fail to understand. This main post was merely addressed to take the side of Obama. Let’s be honest Obama has a lot of issues we could frown upon as well. The point is simple, neither Dems or Repubs seem to get the point. I think the real problem lies in the relationship between business and state. If we could tear those two apart and focus more on the people rather than the internal relationships that run this country we would be in a much better position.

No party will get it right. No one is hailing Obama as the Messiah anymore because it is obvious he isn’t going to fix the problem and is now in a better position of causing greater harm than good. I thought his goals entailed curbing spending. Look where we are today. Spending $1.6 trillion on a health care bill while our government is essentially bankrupt is ridiculous. Why can’t CA or our country figure out how to stop this mess? It isn’t as hard as it looks, the problem is we have too many corrupt politicians looking out for their best interests and businesses lobbying for their piece of the pie. There are plenty of projects that can be cut that many of our citizens would agree upon.

I am tired of all this garbage. I am tired of hearing Bush did this and Obama did that. This country is joke and we, the people, need to take a stand and help solve the problems that brought us here. If we don’t start taking control as citizens our government will run this country into the ground! We haven’t seen this happen yet (except on paper). I believe we are months away from a lot of changes as those bailouts gave us some breathing room!

[socrattt]

[quote=Veritas] Both parties leave a lot to be desired and both will have to morph into something that supports core values of the majority of those the government serves or neither will survive. A party built on a loose coalition of fringe groups will not last in the long haul and will not survive the looming monetary crisis or leadership crisis.[/quote]

Veritas, extremely good point and what many fail to understand. This main post was merely addressed to take the side of Obama. Let’s be honest Obama has a lot of issues we could frown upon as well. The point is simple, neither Dems or Repubs seem to get the point. I think the real problem lies in the relationship between business and state. If we could tear those two apart and focus more on the people rather than the internal relationships that run this country we would be in a much better position.

No party will get it right. No one is hailing Obama as the Messiah anymore because it is obvious he isn’t going to fix the problem and is now in a better position of causing greater harm than good. I thought his goals entailed curbing spending. Look where we are today. Spending $1.6 trillion on a health care bill while our government is essentially bankrupt is ridiculous. Why can’t CA or our country figure out how to stop this mess? It isn’t as hard as it looks, the problem is we have too many corrupt politicians looking out for their best interests and businesses lobbying for their piece of the pie. There are plenty of projects that can be cut that many of our citizens would agree upon.

I am tired of all this garbage. I am tired of hearing Bush did this and Obama did that. This country is joke and we, the people, need to take a stand and help solve the problems that brought us here. If we don’t start taking control as citizens our government will run this country into the ground! We haven’t seen this happen yet (except on paper). I believe we are months away from a lot of changes as those bailouts gave us some breathing room!

[socrattt]

[quote=Veritas] Both parties leave a lot to be desired and both will have to morph into something that supports core values of the majority of those the government serves or neither will survive. A party built on a loose coalition of fringe groups will not last in the long haul and will not survive the looming monetary crisis or leadership crisis.[/quote]

Veritas, extremely good point and what many fail to understand. This main post was merely addressed to take the side of Obama. Let’s be honest Obama has a lot of issues we could frown upon as well. The point is simple, neither Dems or Repubs seem to get the point. I think the real problem lies in the relationship between business and state. If we could tear those two apart and focus more on the people rather than the internal relationships that run this country we would be in a much better position.

No party will get it right. No one is hailing Obama as the Messiah anymore because it is obvious he isn’t going to fix the problem and is now in a better position of causing greater harm than good. I thought his goals entailed curbing spending. Look where we are today. Spending $1.6 trillion on a health care bill while our government is essentially bankrupt is ridiculous. Why can’t CA or our country figure out how to stop this mess? It isn’t as hard as it looks, the problem is we have too many corrupt politicians looking out for their best interests and businesses lobbying for their piece of the pie. There are plenty of projects that can be cut that many of our citizens would agree upon.

I am tired of all this garbage. I am tired of hearing Bush did this and Obama did that. This country is joke and we, the people, need to take a stand and help solve the problems that brought us here. If we don’t start taking control as citizens our government will run this country into the ground! We haven’t seen this happen yet (except on paper). I believe we are months away from a lot of changes as those bailouts gave us some breathing room!

[socrattt]

[quote=Veritas] Both parties leave a lot to be desired and both will have to morph into something that supports core values of the majority of those the government serves or neither will survive. A party built on a loose coalition of fringe groups will not last in the long haul and will not survive the looming monetary crisis or leadership crisis.[/quote]

Veritas, extremely good point and what many fail to understand. This main post was merely addressed to take the side of Obama. Let’s be honest Obama has a lot of issues we could frown upon as well. The point is simple, neither Dems or Repubs seem to get the point. I think the real problem lies in the relationship between business and state. If we could tear those two apart and focus more on the people rather than the internal relationships that run this country we would be in a much better position.

No party will get it right. No one is hailing Obama as the Messiah anymore because it is obvious he isn’t going to fix the problem and is now in a better position of causing greater harm than good. I thought his goals entailed curbing spending. Look where we are today. Spending $1.6 trillion on a health care bill while our government is essentially bankrupt is ridiculous. Why can’t CA or our country figure out how to stop this mess? It isn’t as hard as it looks, the problem is we have too many corrupt politicians looking out for their best interests and businesses lobbying for their piece of the pie. There are plenty of projects that can be cut that many of our citizens would agree upon.

I am tired of all this garbage. I am tired of hearing Bush did this and Obama did that. This country is joke and we, the people, need to take a stand and help solve the problems that brought us here. If we don’t start taking control as citizens our government will run this country into the ground! We haven’t seen this happen yet (except on paper). I believe we are months away from a lot of changes as those bailouts gave us some breathing room!

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[quote=urbanrealtor]
Nothing like that compassionate Christian spirit.
You certainly stay true to form dude.
[/quote]

Urban, Did you want me to tell him to hug his neighbor and praise him for his greediness? I am glad you are here to hold me accountable. Once again you seem to be mindlessly wandering around to find a place for your thoughtless comments! And you found one!!! Thanks for that tidbit.

I will admit going back and reading that post seemed to be a bit harsh especially because I was more being cynical than anything else!!! Urban, was it my Obama comment that set you off?

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[quote=urbanrealtor]
Nothing like that compassionate Christian spirit.
You certainly stay true to form dude.
[/quote]

Urban, Did you want me to tell him to hug his neighbor and praise him for his greediness? I am glad you are here to hold me accountable. Once again you seem to be mindlessly wandering around to find a place for your thoughtless comments! And you found one!!! Thanks for that tidbit.

I will admit going back and reading that post seemed to be a bit harsh especially because I was more being cynical than anything else!!! Urban, was it my Obama comment that set you off?

[socrattt]

[quote=urbanrealtor]
Nothing like that compassionate Christian spirit.
You certainly stay true to form dude.
[/quote]

Urban, Did you want me to tell him to hug his neighbor and praise him for his greediness? I am glad you are here to hold me accountable. Once again you seem to be mindlessly wandering around to find a place for your thoughtless comments! And you found one!!! Thanks for that tidbit.

I will admit going back and reading that post seemed to be a bit harsh especially because I was more being cynical than anything else!!! Urban, was it my Obama comment that set you off?

[socrattt]

[quote=urbanrealtor]
Nothing like that compassionate Christian spirit.
You certainly stay true to form dude.
[/quote]

Urban, Did you want me to tell him to hug his neighbor and praise him for his greediness? I am glad you are here to hold me accountable. Once again you seem to be mindlessly wandering around to find a place for your thoughtless comments! And you found one!!! Thanks for that tidbit.

I will admit going back and reading that post seemed to be a bit harsh especially because I was more being cynical than anything else!!! Urban, was it my Obama comment that set you off?

[socrattt]

[quote=urbanrealtor]
Nothing like that compassionate Christian spirit.
You certainly stay true to form dude.
[/quote]

Urban, Did you want me to tell him to hug his neighbor and praise him for his greediness? I am glad you are here to hold me accountable. Once again you seem to be mindlessly wandering around to find a place for your thoughtless comments! And you found one!!! Thanks for that tidbit.

I will admit going back and reading that post seemed to be a bit harsh especially because I was more being cynical than anything else!!! Urban, was it my Obama comment that set you off?

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