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Participant[quote=dumbrenter]
Smart fellow… does not once mention that renouncing his religion is punishable by death and it is law in many countries. Nice guilt tripping exercise.Guess how long a non-moslem family will last in an equivalent rural community is pakistan?
[/quote]Why are either of those things the least bit material?
Participant[quote=ucodegen]Really? I thought the claim was that Russians were the source for the Wikileaks leak of her Emails. How did they get it.. Wikileaks claims that the source was not the Russians – which I tend to believe because Russia does not give away any leverage which they could have over people.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37639370%5B/quote%5D
You thought wrong. You didn’t read carefully enough. Not a single one of her emails was hacked. Her campaign manager’s were. And they weren’t on her server, they were on aol. Her server was shut down when she left state.
Participant[quote=ucodegen] BTW where is the assertion that they weren’t really classified – another false news? From what I remember of the video link sent – Comey confirmed that they were classified.
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State department said so. Don’t believe me? I don’t give a shit. Doesn’t change anything one bit. They weren’t classified. They weren’t marked classified.
Participant[quote=ucodegen]
Sorry neither. That said, it has not been shown that Trump has colluded with Russia. However I do think that Russia was in Hillary’s Email server – for a long time, probably set up automated forwarding of all Emails sent and received, going through several proxies. I don’t think they did this for the Election, I think it was in place for some time. However I don’t think they were the ones that released them – how could Russia profit from that? But it is something that could be subject to blackmail, releasing them and it can no longer be used for blackmail.[/quote]
Not a single email from Clinton’s server was ever released surreptitiously. Not a single one. There was no evidence that it was ever successfully hacked. Interesting that you think there was. Did fake news help form your impressions of the candidate?
Participant[quote=ucodegen]
You have never handled classified info – that last sentence is incorrect. They were marked, but may have not been marked as per the standard – location on the text, coloring, background. That does NOT make them unclassified.[/quote]What makes them unclassified is that the information wasn’t classified.
What makes Clinton’s assertion accurate is that if they weren’t correctly marked classified, then they weren’t marked classified.
Participant[quote=ucodegen][quote=SK in CV][quote=ucodegen]1) Most of the ‘answers’ were ‘not true’. So you are saying that FBI Director James Comey was lying – and if I am not mistaken, this recording was of him on the record under oath.
[/quote]No, I’m saying Gowdy is lying.[/quote]
Umm.. Gowdy was not making statements of fact. He was posing questions… to which Comey answered. One of these questions was whether the items were marked classified – Comey affirming that they were.How is that Gowdy lying? Again, Comey was making statements of fact however Gowdy was asking questions of the ‘yes’ or ‘no’ type to be answered by Comey. ie. is this true or not.[/quote]
Ok, then. Then nothing in that piece of the clip is evidence of Clinton lying. Gowdy claimed Clinton said something. Comey said “that would be false”. That’s not evidence Clinton lied. Because the things that Gowdy claimed Clinton said, were lies. She had never said those things.
They were marked classified. Incorrectly. Which is the same as if they weren’t marked classified at all.
Participant[quote=ucodegen]2) Find it or it doesn’t exist – Comey saying that they did not mark properly.
[/quote]Not really. It exists whether I can find it or not. That might be the most stupid argument I’ve ever seen posted here.
FBI Director Admits Hillary Clinton Emails Were Not Properly Marked Classified
Participant[quote=ucodegen]1) Most of the ‘answers’ were ‘not true’. So you are saying that FBI Director James Comey was lying – and if I am not mistaken, this recording was of him on the record under oath.
[/quote]No, I’m saying Gowdy is lying.
ParticipantYeah, Gowdy is a former prosecutor. He knows how to frame a question. “Clinton said blah blah blah, is that true?”, when in fact, Clinton never said blah blah blah. Example: Clinton said she didn’t use more than 1 device at a time. She didn’t say she only used 1 device. I think she went through about 5 different cell phones. But never two at the same time.
There’s another clip out there with Comey acknowledging that the emails were not properly marked classified.
Participant[quote=ucodegen][quote=SK in CV][quote=livinincali] That Hilary Clinton was full of shit. Some choose to support her anyway because everybody does it or she’s better than the alternative, but nobody thinks she wasn’t lying. [/quote]
I don’t think she was lying. I think the FBI report exonerates her from accusations of lying.[/quote]
Really? Claimed something like 8 Emails relative to her work at State Department on her server, found several thousand with almost 3000 classified at differing levels and more than 4 at Special Access. That is a pretty big lie in itself.What you don’t get is that it needs to be ‘actionable’.. she did not lie under oath, she avoided being placed under oath (remember – she understood that distinction from being an attorney). You can’t prosecute someone for lying unless it is under oath. It also looks like you didn’t read the FBI report or pay much attention to it.
Important takeaway – politicians are not required to tell the truth, and they usually don’t.[/quote]
I’m quite sure she never claimed there were only 8 emails on her server related to her work at state. She did tell congress that she didn’t think she had any emails that were marked classified. Comey, in his testimony, supported by the FBI report, confirmed that she had no emails that were properly marked classified when sent to her.
Participant[quote=livinincali] That Hilary Clinton was full of shit. Some choose to support her anyway because everybody does it or she’s better than the alternative, but nobody thinks she wasn’t lying. [/quote]
I don’t think she was lying. I think the FBI report exonerates her from accusations of lying.
Participant[quote=phaster]
PS just an educated guess that your dismissal of SPEs and other topics mentioned (like pensions) aside from being somewhat complex, has more to do w/ personal feelings rather than facts…[quote=SK in CV]
[quote=no_such_reality]
The lump sum payments are stunning.
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I suspect much of these “one time payments” are their own money they’re getting back. My brother retired after 33 years with the SDPD last year, and would have been 4th on the list if the search criteria would have been different…https://piggington.com/how_will_unfunded_pensions_affect_economy?page=1#comment-247006
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Contributions to public pension plans have increased in recent years, but their unfunded liabilities have increased more, according to an analysis by the Society of Actuaries released Wednesday.https://www.soa.org/research-reports/2017/public-pension-indices/
[/quote][/quote]More like an uneducated guess about something you clearly don’t understand. The many year old quote about my brothers retirement benefit has nothing to do with SPE’s.
Participant[quote=phaster]
given bold statements, care to share any verifiable expertise on the topic, as per piggington forums moto “In God We Trust. Everyone Else Bring data” ???FWIW the WSJ author seems to have a formal education on applicable topics as well as work experience (and you ???)
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Yeah, I’m a CPA. I’ve been preparing and reviewing financial statements for more than 40 years. I don’t report on it. I actually do it.
Participant[quote=harvey]
Residential real estate fund managers who are flipping properties in order to make their quarterly numbers for some financial report? … there’s no such animal.[/quote]Concur also.
Blackstone”s Invitation Homes is one the biggest. I think they purchased around 50,000 SFH in relatively few markets. They’ve sold quite a few, but for the most part they’ve held on to much of what they bought in the years after the collapse. Flipping was expected, they didn’t do it. They’re mostly landlords. Now that they’re public, they may start selling more.
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