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Participant[quote=Butleroftwo][quote=SK in CV]
What does this have to do with proposed health insurance legislation?[/quote]What does family planning, hospice, end of life choices, real-time determination of an individual’s financial responsibility at the point of service, raising taxes, palliative care, Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality Center for Comparative Effectiveness Research (in this section referred to as the ‘Center’), fines, national consensus standard for measuring the performance and improvement of population health, Resident training rules, required preventative services, home visitations of families expecting children, Health Service Corps and student loans have to do with insurance?
This started out as a healthcare bill and now is an insurance bill in name only. Who knows where it will end up? BO has put us on notice to get this done ASAP and those who created the problem have no place in fixing it.[/quote]
I asked that same question twice, in reference to two different posts, so I’m not sure which one you’re reponding to. I’m presuming you’re referring to the first one, the woman from Oregon, whose medicaid coverage did not include reimbursement for a drug which medical evidence showed would not significantly prolong her life. I suspect my premium coverage (not government paid, like her medicaid) might not cover a drug which costs $4,000 a month and phase III testing showed increased life expectancy from approximately 4 months to approximately 6 months, and has extraordinary side effects.
All that said, I’ll ask again. What exactly does this woman’s story, have to do with the proposed legislation?
Participant[quote=Butleroftwo][quote=SK in CV]
What does this have to do with proposed health insurance legislation?[/quote]What does family planning, hospice, end of life choices, real-time determination of an individual’s financial responsibility at the point of service, raising taxes, palliative care, Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality Center for Comparative Effectiveness Research (in this section referred to as the ‘Center’), fines, national consensus standard for measuring the performance and improvement of population health, Resident training rules, required preventative services, home visitations of families expecting children, Health Service Corps and student loans have to do with insurance?
This started out as a healthcare bill and now is an insurance bill in name only. Who knows where it will end up? BO has put us on notice to get this done ASAP and those who created the problem have no place in fixing it.[/quote]
I asked that same question twice, in reference to two different posts, so I’m not sure which one you’re reponding to. I’m presuming you’re referring to the first one, the woman from Oregon, whose medicaid coverage did not include reimbursement for a drug which medical evidence showed would not significantly prolong her life. I suspect my premium coverage (not government paid, like her medicaid) might not cover a drug which costs $4,000 a month and phase III testing showed increased life expectancy from approximately 4 months to approximately 6 months, and has extraordinary side effects.
All that said, I’ll ask again. What exactly does this woman’s story, have to do with the proposed legislation?
Participant[quote=Butleroftwo][quote=SK in CV]
What does this have to do with proposed health insurance legislation?[/quote]What does family planning, hospice, end of life choices, real-time determination of an individual’s financial responsibility at the point of service, raising taxes, palliative care, Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality Center for Comparative Effectiveness Research (in this section referred to as the ‘Center’), fines, national consensus standard for measuring the performance and improvement of population health, Resident training rules, required preventative services, home visitations of families expecting children, Health Service Corps and student loans have to do with insurance?
This started out as a healthcare bill and now is an insurance bill in name only. Who knows where it will end up? BO has put us on notice to get this done ASAP and those who created the problem have no place in fixing it.[/quote]
I asked that same question twice, in reference to two different posts, so I’m not sure which one you’re reponding to. I’m presuming you’re referring to the first one, the woman from Oregon, whose medicaid coverage did not include reimbursement for a drug which medical evidence showed would not significantly prolong her life. I suspect my premium coverage (not government paid, like her medicaid) might not cover a drug which costs $4,000 a month and phase III testing showed increased life expectancy from approximately 4 months to approximately 6 months, and has extraordinary side effects.
All that said, I’ll ask again. What exactly does this woman’s story, have to do with the proposed legislation?
Participant[quote=Zeitgeist]Sec. 3111, Pg. 931 – The government will establish a Preventative and Wellness Trust fund, with initial cost of $30,800,000,000 (Billions more).
Health Benefits Advisory Committee
According to Division A, Title I, Subtitle C, Section 123 of HR 3200, a Health Benefits Advisory Committee shall be established to be chaired by the Surgeon General of the United States. It will consist of 9 more individuals who are not federal employees that are appointed by the President of the United States. It will also consist of 9 members who are appointed by the Comptroller General of the United States. Also, up to eight more members will be appointed in even numbers by the President of the United States who are federal employees and officers. Each member of the committee will serve three year terms. The Health Benefits Advisory Committee will recommend to the United States Secretary of Health and Human Services benefit standards and periodic updates to such standards.[/quote]
Which bill are you referring to with regards to the initial cost of $30.8 billion? That does not appear anywhere in HR 3200. The first year cost is $2.4 billion. The 9 year cost is $35.3 billion. or approximately 5% of what the war in Iraq has cost over a shorter period of time.
Participant[quote=Zeitgeist]Sec. 3111, Pg. 931 – The government will establish a Preventative and Wellness Trust fund, with initial cost of $30,800,000,000 (Billions more).
Health Benefits Advisory Committee
According to Division A, Title I, Subtitle C, Section 123 of HR 3200, a Health Benefits Advisory Committee shall be established to be chaired by the Surgeon General of the United States. It will consist of 9 more individuals who are not federal employees that are appointed by the President of the United States. It will also consist of 9 members who are appointed by the Comptroller General of the United States. Also, up to eight more members will be appointed in even numbers by the President of the United States who are federal employees and officers. Each member of the committee will serve three year terms. The Health Benefits Advisory Committee will recommend to the United States Secretary of Health and Human Services benefit standards and periodic updates to such standards.[/quote]
Which bill are you referring to with regards to the initial cost of $30.8 billion? That does not appear anywhere in HR 3200. The first year cost is $2.4 billion. The 9 year cost is $35.3 billion. or approximately 5% of what the war in Iraq has cost over a shorter period of time.
Participant[quote=Zeitgeist]Sec. 3111, Pg. 931 – The government will establish a Preventative and Wellness Trust fund, with initial cost of $30,800,000,000 (Billions more).
Health Benefits Advisory Committee
According to Division A, Title I, Subtitle C, Section 123 of HR 3200, a Health Benefits Advisory Committee shall be established to be chaired by the Surgeon General of the United States. It will consist of 9 more individuals who are not federal employees that are appointed by the President of the United States. It will also consist of 9 members who are appointed by the Comptroller General of the United States. Also, up to eight more members will be appointed in even numbers by the President of the United States who are federal employees and officers. Each member of the committee will serve three year terms. The Health Benefits Advisory Committee will recommend to the United States Secretary of Health and Human Services benefit standards and periodic updates to such standards.[/quote]
Which bill are you referring to with regards to the initial cost of $30.8 billion? That does not appear anywhere in HR 3200. The first year cost is $2.4 billion. The 9 year cost is $35.3 billion. or approximately 5% of what the war in Iraq has cost over a shorter period of time.
Participant[quote=Zeitgeist]Sec. 3111, Pg. 931 – The government will establish a Preventative and Wellness Trust fund, with initial cost of $30,800,000,000 (Billions more).
Health Benefits Advisory Committee
According to Division A, Title I, Subtitle C, Section 123 of HR 3200, a Health Benefits Advisory Committee shall be established to be chaired by the Surgeon General of the United States. It will consist of 9 more individuals who are not federal employees that are appointed by the President of the United States. It will also consist of 9 members who are appointed by the Comptroller General of the United States. Also, up to eight more members will be appointed in even numbers by the President of the United States who are federal employees and officers. Each member of the committee will serve three year terms. The Health Benefits Advisory Committee will recommend to the United States Secretary of Health and Human Services benefit standards and periodic updates to such standards.[/quote]
Which bill are you referring to with regards to the initial cost of $30.8 billion? That does not appear anywhere in HR 3200. The first year cost is $2.4 billion. The 9 year cost is $35.3 billion. or approximately 5% of what the war in Iraq has cost over a shorter period of time.
Participant[quote=Zeitgeist]Sec. 3111, Pg. 931 – The government will establish a Preventative and Wellness Trust fund, with initial cost of $30,800,000,000 (Billions more).
Health Benefits Advisory Committee
According to Division A, Title I, Subtitle C, Section 123 of HR 3200, a Health Benefits Advisory Committee shall be established to be chaired by the Surgeon General of the United States. It will consist of 9 more individuals who are not federal employees that are appointed by the President of the United States. It will also consist of 9 members who are appointed by the Comptroller General of the United States. Also, up to eight more members will be appointed in even numbers by the President of the United States who are federal employees and officers. Each member of the committee will serve three year terms. The Health Benefits Advisory Committee will recommend to the United States Secretary of Health and Human Services benefit standards and periodic updates to such standards.[/quote]
Which bill are you referring to with regards to the initial cost of $30.8 billion? That does not appear anywhere in HR 3200. The first year cost is $2.4 billion. The 9 year cost is $35.3 billion. or approximately 5% of what the war in Iraq has cost over a shorter period of time.
Participant[quote=Zeitgeist]”Conversely, services provided to individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens are not basic and should not be guaranteed. An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia.”
Ezekiel J. Emanuel[/quote]
What does this have to do with proposed health insurance legislation?
Participant[quote=Zeitgeist]”Conversely, services provided to individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens are not basic and should not be guaranteed. An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia.”
Ezekiel J. Emanuel[/quote]
What does this have to do with proposed health insurance legislation?
Participant[quote=Zeitgeist]”Conversely, services provided to individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens are not basic and should not be guaranteed. An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia.”
Ezekiel J. Emanuel[/quote]
What does this have to do with proposed health insurance legislation?
Participant[quote=Zeitgeist]”Conversely, services provided to individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens are not basic and should not be guaranteed. An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia.”
Ezekiel J. Emanuel[/quote]
What does this have to do with proposed health insurance legislation?
Participant[quote=Zeitgeist]”Conversely, services provided to individuals who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens are not basic and should not be guaranteed. An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia.”
Ezekiel J. Emanuel[/quote]
What does this have to do with proposed health insurance legislation?
Participant[quote=Zeitgeist]Oregon Offers to Pay to Kill, but Not to Treat Cancer Patient
“SALEM, Oregon, June 4, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Lung cancer patient, Barbara Wagner, was recently notified that her oncologist-prescribed medication that would slow the growth of cancer would not be covered by the Oregon Health Plan; the plan, however, she was informed, would cover doctor-assisted suicide should she wish to kill herself.”
“‘Treatment of advanced cancer that is meant to prolong life, or change the course of this disease, is not a covered benefit of the Oregon Health Plan,’ read the letter notifying Wagner of the health plan’s decision.”
http://www.lifesitenews.com/ldn/2008/jun/08060402.html%5B/quote%5DWhat does this have to do with proposed health insurance legislation?
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