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Why did ALL of the GOP in congress oppose it?[/quote]

Is that a serious question? The party of NO. Had they been serious about health care reform there would have been logical discussion instead of fallacious claims about the content of the proposals. (six months ago there was a list posted here, supposedly written by a republican constitutional lawyer, of close to a 100 bad things in the original house bill. I read the entire bill. I posted a response to each one. 98% of them were out and out falsehoods. Death panels. Free coverage for undocumented aliens. Funding for ACORN health clinics. The other 2% were either partially true or accurate but absurd complaints.)

They made a mistake. As a party they believed that politically, an Obama failure meant a Republican victory. This time, hyper-partisanship did not work. They failed. They were wrong.

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[quote=dbapig]
Why did ALL of the GOP in congress oppose it?[/quote]

Is that a serious question? The party of NO. Had they been serious about health care reform there would have been logical discussion instead of fallacious claims about the content of the proposals. (six months ago there was a list posted here, supposedly written by a republican constitutional lawyer, of close to a 100 bad things in the original house bill. I read the entire bill. I posted a response to each one. 98% of them were out and out falsehoods. Death panels. Free coverage for undocumented aliens. Funding for ACORN health clinics. The other 2% were either partially true or accurate but absurd complaints.)

They made a mistake. As a party they believed that politically, an Obama failure meant a Republican victory. This time, hyper-partisanship did not work. They failed. They were wrong.

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[quote=dbapig]
Why did ALL of the GOP in congress oppose it?[/quote]

Is that a serious question? The party of NO. Had they been serious about health care reform there would have been logical discussion instead of fallacious claims about the content of the proposals. (six months ago there was a list posted here, supposedly written by a republican constitutional lawyer, of close to a 100 bad things in the original house bill. I read the entire bill. I posted a response to each one. 98% of them were out and out falsehoods. Death panels. Free coverage for undocumented aliens. Funding for ACORN health clinics. The other 2% were either partially true or accurate but absurd complaints.)

They made a mistake. As a party they believed that politically, an Obama failure meant a Republican victory. This time, hyper-partisanship did not work. They failed. They were wrong.

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[quote=dbapig]
Why did ALL of the GOP in congress oppose it?[/quote]

Is that a serious question? The party of NO. Had they been serious about health care reform there would have been logical discussion instead of fallacious claims about the content of the proposals. (six months ago there was a list posted here, supposedly written by a republican constitutional lawyer, of close to a 100 bad things in the original house bill. I read the entire bill. I posted a response to each one. 98% of them were out and out falsehoods. Death panels. Free coverage for undocumented aliens. Funding for ACORN health clinics. The other 2% were either partially true or accurate but absurd complaints.)

They made a mistake. As a party they believed that politically, an Obama failure meant a Republican victory. This time, hyper-partisanship did not work. They failed. They were wrong.

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[quote=jpinpb]While ideally this country should provide healthCARE for its citizens, as they do in Europe or Canada…..[/quote]

Canada does not provide healthcare. It has federally mandated and run health insurance, which is partially funded by each province. Some with direct payments of premiums, some with other fees and taxes. Unlike our VA hospitals, it is NOT socialized medicine. Doctors do not work for the government. The UK is socialized medicine. Not Canada.

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[quote=jpinpb]While ideally this country should provide healthCARE for its citizens, as they do in Europe or Canada…..[/quote]

Canada does not provide healthcare. It has federally mandated and run health insurance, which is partially funded by each province. Some with direct payments of premiums, some with other fees and taxes. Unlike our VA hospitals, it is NOT socialized medicine. Doctors do not work for the government. The UK is socialized medicine. Not Canada.

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[quote=jpinpb]While ideally this country should provide healthCARE for its citizens, as they do in Europe or Canada…..[/quote]

Canada does not provide healthcare. It has federally mandated and run health insurance, which is partially funded by each province. Some with direct payments of premiums, some with other fees and taxes. Unlike our VA hospitals, it is NOT socialized medicine. Doctors do not work for the government. The UK is socialized medicine. Not Canada.

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[quote=jpinpb]While ideally this country should provide healthCARE for its citizens, as they do in Europe or Canada…..[/quote]

Canada does not provide healthcare. It has federally mandated and run health insurance, which is partially funded by each province. Some with direct payments of premiums, some with other fees and taxes. Unlike our VA hospitals, it is NOT socialized medicine. Doctors do not work for the government. The UK is socialized medicine. Not Canada.

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[quote=jpinpb]While ideally this country should provide healthCARE for its citizens, as they do in Europe or Canada…..[/quote]

Canada does not provide healthcare. It has federally mandated and run health insurance, which is partially funded by each province. Some with direct payments of premiums, some with other fees and taxes. Unlike our VA hospitals, it is NOT socialized medicine. Doctors do not work for the government. The UK is socialized medicine. Not Canada.

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[quote=Irish]Like so many have said before, this bill, although far from perfect is a step in the right direction for this country. I am glad it is now signed into law. It is significant, historic legislation on a par with the passing of Medicare for seniors and the disabled…that happened over 40 years ago ! [/quote]

Like you, I’m pleased that it passed. But this is far from historic legislation. It is filled with ideas supported and proposed by every Republican president since Nixon. That certainly doesn’t make it bad, it’s simply less than historic. It is not a progressive bill. When insurance doesn’t cover all of women’s parts, it cannot be progressive. Hopefully, as you say, it is a step in the right direction.

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[quote=Irish]Like so many have said before, this bill, although far from perfect is a step in the right direction for this country. I am glad it is now signed into law. It is significant, historic legislation on a par with the passing of Medicare for seniors and the disabled…that happened over 40 years ago ! [/quote]

Like you, I’m pleased that it passed. But this is far from historic legislation. It is filled with ideas supported and proposed by every Republican president since Nixon. That certainly doesn’t make it bad, it’s simply less than historic. It is not a progressive bill. When insurance doesn’t cover all of women’s parts, it cannot be progressive. Hopefully, as you say, it is a step in the right direction.

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[quote=Irish]Like so many have said before, this bill, although far from perfect is a step in the right direction for this country. I am glad it is now signed into law. It is significant, historic legislation on a par with the passing of Medicare for seniors and the disabled…that happened over 40 years ago ! [/quote]

Like you, I’m pleased that it passed. But this is far from historic legislation. It is filled with ideas supported and proposed by every Republican president since Nixon. That certainly doesn’t make it bad, it’s simply less than historic. It is not a progressive bill. When insurance doesn’t cover all of women’s parts, it cannot be progressive. Hopefully, as you say, it is a step in the right direction.

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[quote=Irish]Like so many have said before, this bill, although far from perfect is a step in the right direction for this country. I am glad it is now signed into law. It is significant, historic legislation on a par with the passing of Medicare for seniors and the disabled…that happened over 40 years ago ! [/quote]

Like you, I’m pleased that it passed. But this is far from historic legislation. It is filled with ideas supported and proposed by every Republican president since Nixon. That certainly doesn’t make it bad, it’s simply less than historic. It is not a progressive bill. When insurance doesn’t cover all of women’s parts, it cannot be progressive. Hopefully, as you say, it is a step in the right direction.

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[quote=Irish]Like so many have said before, this bill, although far from perfect is a step in the right direction for this country. I am glad it is now signed into law. It is significant, historic legislation on a par with the passing of Medicare for seniors and the disabled…that happened over 40 years ago ! [/quote]

Like you, I’m pleased that it passed. But this is far from historic legislation. It is filled with ideas supported and proposed by every Republican president since Nixon. That certainly doesn’t make it bad, it’s simply less than historic. It is not a progressive bill. When insurance doesn’t cover all of women’s parts, it cannot be progressive. Hopefully, as you say, it is a step in the right direction.

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Perfect indeed.

[quote=Arraya][quote=CONCHO]Two nitwits running for President. That surely will be a lot of fun.

I can’t imagine two more perfect examples of the average American. I think they’d be perfect.[/quote]

I agree and the perfect campaign slogan is “Lets get it over with”[/quote]

Average guy. Fat, old, lazy white man, drinks a lot of beer and scratches his balls. Just like me. Now that’s who I want running the show.

/snark

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