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Participant[quote=svelte][quote=duncbdunc]
re stucco: I understand that you are not supposed to paint over stucco. If you want to refresh color you need to apply a new layer of stucco. Apparently stucco is supposed to breath or it will rot inside from water damage. Paint seals the stucco.
[/quote]I’ve known many people who have had their stucco painted with no ill effects. One family has had their house 20 years now since it was painted without a problem inside or out. Maybe in moister climates it would be a problem (like Seattle) or maybe if you are just blocks from the ocean. Otherwise I think you’re fine.[/quote]
Stucco is not water-proof. It is not designed to be. Neither is standard paint. The water-proofing comes from the paper, when properly applied. Stucco assemblies with a color coat are not designed to be painted, however painting won’t damage the integrity of the assembly.
Stucco is often painted with elastomeric paint (including sometimes for new contruction), which is water resistent, but usually vapor permeable. (Most of the non-vapor permeable elastomerics are off the market, but there still are some available.) It can even be used to effectively fill small cracks. It’s important to follow manufacturers application instructions.
The rotting (or more commonly, mold) is a problem when there is moisture in the studs from improper water-proofing. It is possible that a combination of improper waterproofing, along with bad timing of the application of a non-vapor permeable coating can lead to mold. Mold needs moisture and organic material to grow. If the assembly is water-proof and it can “breath” (vapor permeable) any moisture will evaporate, and there won’t be mold damage.
Participant[quote=svelte][quote=duncbdunc]
re stucco: I understand that you are not supposed to paint over stucco. If you want to refresh color you need to apply a new layer of stucco. Apparently stucco is supposed to breath or it will rot inside from water damage. Paint seals the stucco.
[/quote]I’ve known many people who have had their stucco painted with no ill effects. One family has had their house 20 years now since it was painted without a problem inside or out. Maybe in moister climates it would be a problem (like Seattle) or maybe if you are just blocks from the ocean. Otherwise I think you’re fine.[/quote]
Stucco is not water-proof. It is not designed to be. Neither is standard paint. The water-proofing comes from the paper, when properly applied. Stucco assemblies with a color coat are not designed to be painted, however painting won’t damage the integrity of the assembly.
Stucco is often painted with elastomeric paint (including sometimes for new contruction), which is water resistent, but usually vapor permeable. (Most of the non-vapor permeable elastomerics are off the market, but there still are some available.) It can even be used to effectively fill small cracks. It’s important to follow manufacturers application instructions.
The rotting (or more commonly, mold) is a problem when there is moisture in the studs from improper water-proofing. It is possible that a combination of improper waterproofing, along with bad timing of the application of a non-vapor permeable coating can lead to mold. Mold needs moisture and organic material to grow. If the assembly is water-proof and it can “breath” (vapor permeable) any moisture will evaporate, and there won’t be mold damage.
Participant[quote=svelte][quote=duncbdunc]
re stucco: I understand that you are not supposed to paint over stucco. If you want to refresh color you need to apply a new layer of stucco. Apparently stucco is supposed to breath or it will rot inside from water damage. Paint seals the stucco.
[/quote]I’ve known many people who have had their stucco painted with no ill effects. One family has had their house 20 years now since it was painted without a problem inside or out. Maybe in moister climates it would be a problem (like Seattle) or maybe if you are just blocks from the ocean. Otherwise I think you’re fine.[/quote]
Stucco is not water-proof. It is not designed to be. Neither is standard paint. The water-proofing comes from the paper, when properly applied. Stucco assemblies with a color coat are not designed to be painted, however painting won’t damage the integrity of the assembly.
Stucco is often painted with elastomeric paint (including sometimes for new contruction), which is water resistent, but usually vapor permeable. (Most of the non-vapor permeable elastomerics are off the market, but there still are some available.) It can even be used to effectively fill small cracks. It’s important to follow manufacturers application instructions.
The rotting (or more commonly, mold) is a problem when there is moisture in the studs from improper water-proofing. It is possible that a combination of improper waterproofing, along with bad timing of the application of a non-vapor permeable coating can lead to mold. Mold needs moisture and organic material to grow. If the assembly is water-proof and it can “breath” (vapor permeable) any moisture will evaporate, and there won’t be mold damage.
ParticipantOk on the herding. I thought you meant herding, in the sense of….herding. I’d never heard the word associated with tribalism. But I guess I see the connection.
The don’t suspect opposition to multicultural societies, at least in this country, or most of western Europe, has much to do with hoarding, and everything to do with othering.
ParticipantOk on the herding. I thought you meant herding, in the sense of….herding. I’d never heard the word associated with tribalism. But I guess I see the connection.
The don’t suspect opposition to multicultural societies, at least in this country, or most of western Europe, has much to do with hoarding, and everything to do with othering.
ParticipantOk on the herding. I thought you meant herding, in the sense of….herding. I’d never heard the word associated with tribalism. But I guess I see the connection.
The don’t suspect opposition to multicultural societies, at least in this country, or most of western Europe, has much to do with hoarding, and everything to do with othering.
ParticipantOk on the herding. I thought you meant herding, in the sense of….herding. I’d never heard the word associated with tribalism. But I guess I see the connection.
The don’t suspect opposition to multicultural societies, at least in this country, or most of western Europe, has much to do with hoarding, and everything to do with othering.
ParticipantOk on the herding. I thought you meant herding, in the sense of….herding. I’d never heard the word associated with tribalism. But I guess I see the connection.
The don’t suspect opposition to multicultural societies, at least in this country, or most of western Europe, has much to do with hoarding, and everything to do with othering.
Participant[quote=CA renter]
Humans have a herding instinct, and we form groups that we feel will optimize our access to resources and territory. We are territorial, and defend our territories as a herd.The resistance to “multiculturalism” is basic to human nature. It has nothing to do with religion (or race, or culture), specifically, and everything to do with trying to control certain resources that “belong” to the group.
When a new group with different characteristics (religion, color, language, culture, etc.) encroaches on an existing group’s territory/resources, they are demanding access to the resources that the existing group perceives as their own.
It is about hoarding behavior and access to resources; and it is as basic to human (and animal) nature as eating and procreation. It’s a survival instinct, and it’s ridiculous to think that we can change something that is so intrinsic and essential to our survival.[/quote]
I would propose that humans do not now, nor have we ever had “herding” instincts. Hoarding behavior is learned. And has little, if anything, to do with opposition to a multicultural society.
It is rather, a remnant of object permanence, an intellectual growth stage in infancy. Infants recognize that “things” exist even though they are not always present. Both other people and objects. Like parents, siblings, pacifier. Infants, and later as toddlers and small children, are comforted by that which is familiar. (You parents remember when your kids wanted to watch the same movie over and over and over again. They like knowing what’s going to happen next.)
As older children, and unfortunately, sometimes as adults, we are only comforted by that which is familiar. All else is “other”. “Other” is stressful. It creates fear. We really all do have the intellectual capacity, as adults, to overcome that stress and fear.
Yeah, I went there.
Participant[quote=CA renter]
Humans have a herding instinct, and we form groups that we feel will optimize our access to resources and territory. We are territorial, and defend our territories as a herd.The resistance to “multiculturalism” is basic to human nature. It has nothing to do with religion (or race, or culture), specifically, and everything to do with trying to control certain resources that “belong” to the group.
When a new group with different characteristics (religion, color, language, culture, etc.) encroaches on an existing group’s territory/resources, they are demanding access to the resources that the existing group perceives as their own.
It is about hoarding behavior and access to resources; and it is as basic to human (and animal) nature as eating and procreation. It’s a survival instinct, and it’s ridiculous to think that we can change something that is so intrinsic and essential to our survival.[/quote]
I would propose that humans do not now, nor have we ever had “herding” instincts. Hoarding behavior is learned. And has little, if anything, to do with opposition to a multicultural society.
It is rather, a remnant of object permanence, an intellectual growth stage in infancy. Infants recognize that “things” exist even though they are not always present. Both other people and objects. Like parents, siblings, pacifier. Infants, and later as toddlers and small children, are comforted by that which is familiar. (You parents remember when your kids wanted to watch the same movie over and over and over again. They like knowing what’s going to happen next.)
As older children, and unfortunately, sometimes as adults, we are only comforted by that which is familiar. All else is “other”. “Other” is stressful. It creates fear. We really all do have the intellectual capacity, as adults, to overcome that stress and fear.
Yeah, I went there.
Participant[quote=CA renter]
Humans have a herding instinct, and we form groups that we feel will optimize our access to resources and territory. We are territorial, and defend our territories as a herd.The resistance to “multiculturalism” is basic to human nature. It has nothing to do with religion (or race, or culture), specifically, and everything to do with trying to control certain resources that “belong” to the group.
When a new group with different characteristics (religion, color, language, culture, etc.) encroaches on an existing group’s territory/resources, they are demanding access to the resources that the existing group perceives as their own.
It is about hoarding behavior and access to resources; and it is as basic to human (and animal) nature as eating and procreation. It’s a survival instinct, and it’s ridiculous to think that we can change something that is so intrinsic and essential to our survival.[/quote]
I would propose that humans do not now, nor have we ever had “herding” instincts. Hoarding behavior is learned. And has little, if anything, to do with opposition to a multicultural society.
It is rather, a remnant of object permanence, an intellectual growth stage in infancy. Infants recognize that “things” exist even though they are not always present. Both other people and objects. Like parents, siblings, pacifier. Infants, and later as toddlers and small children, are comforted by that which is familiar. (You parents remember when your kids wanted to watch the same movie over and over and over again. They like knowing what’s going to happen next.)
As older children, and unfortunately, sometimes as adults, we are only comforted by that which is familiar. All else is “other”. “Other” is stressful. It creates fear. We really all do have the intellectual capacity, as adults, to overcome that stress and fear.
Yeah, I went there.
Participant[quote=CA renter]
Humans have a herding instinct, and we form groups that we feel will optimize our access to resources and territory. We are territorial, and defend our territories as a herd.The resistance to “multiculturalism” is basic to human nature. It has nothing to do with religion (or race, or culture), specifically, and everything to do with trying to control certain resources that “belong” to the group.
When a new group with different characteristics (religion, color, language, culture, etc.) encroaches on an existing group’s territory/resources, they are demanding access to the resources that the existing group perceives as their own.
It is about hoarding behavior and access to resources; and it is as basic to human (and animal) nature as eating and procreation. It’s a survival instinct, and it’s ridiculous to think that we can change something that is so intrinsic and essential to our survival.[/quote]
I would propose that humans do not now, nor have we ever had “herding” instincts. Hoarding behavior is learned. And has little, if anything, to do with opposition to a multicultural society.
It is rather, a remnant of object permanence, an intellectual growth stage in infancy. Infants recognize that “things” exist even though they are not always present. Both other people and objects. Like parents, siblings, pacifier. Infants, and later as toddlers and small children, are comforted by that which is familiar. (You parents remember when your kids wanted to watch the same movie over and over and over again. They like knowing what’s going to happen next.)
As older children, and unfortunately, sometimes as adults, we are only comforted by that which is familiar. All else is “other”. “Other” is stressful. It creates fear. We really all do have the intellectual capacity, as adults, to overcome that stress and fear.
Yeah, I went there.
Participant[quote=CA renter]
Humans have a herding instinct, and we form groups that we feel will optimize our access to resources and territory. We are territorial, and defend our territories as a herd.The resistance to “multiculturalism” is basic to human nature. It has nothing to do with religion (or race, or culture), specifically, and everything to do with trying to control certain resources that “belong” to the group.
When a new group with different characteristics (religion, color, language, culture, etc.) encroaches on an existing group’s territory/resources, they are demanding access to the resources that the existing group perceives as their own.
It is about hoarding behavior and access to resources; and it is as basic to human (and animal) nature as eating and procreation. It’s a survival instinct, and it’s ridiculous to think that we can change something that is so intrinsic and essential to our survival.[/quote]
I would propose that humans do not now, nor have we ever had “herding” instincts. Hoarding behavior is learned. And has little, if anything, to do with opposition to a multicultural society.
It is rather, a remnant of object permanence, an intellectual growth stage in infancy. Infants recognize that “things” exist even though they are not always present. Both other people and objects. Like parents, siblings, pacifier. Infants, and later as toddlers and small children, are comforted by that which is familiar. (You parents remember when your kids wanted to watch the same movie over and over and over again. They like knowing what’s going to happen next.)
As older children, and unfortunately, sometimes as adults, we are only comforted by that which is familiar. All else is “other”. “Other” is stressful. It creates fear. We really all do have the intellectual capacity, as adults, to overcome that stress and fear.
Yeah, I went there.
Participant[quote=Djshakes][quote=Rustico]Should we ban the Christian Coalition?[/quote]
Well, considering this country was found on Judea-Christian values that would be self destructive now wouldn’t it.[/quote]
Banning speech of any almost kind would be destructive. Including the imaginary speech supporting Sharia law. Judeo-Christian values have nothing to do with it.
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