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Participant[quote=Scarlett]
This part about living expenses is just a side story if you want and you want to make a big deal about it. Not sure why you are up in arms. Do you think getting a student loan so one can wear latest fashion, buy an iphone, iPad, starbucks, etc is smart?[/quote]
Spent much time with college students lately? They’re still eating top ramen. It just costs more than it did when you were in college.
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Participant[quote=Scarlett]
This part about living expenses is just a side story if you want and you want to make a big deal about it. Not sure why you are up in arms. Do you think getting a student loan so one can wear latest fashion, buy an iphone, iPad, starbucks, etc is smart?[/quote]
Spent much time with college students lately? They’re still eating top ramen. It just costs more than it did when you were in college.
SK in CV
Participant[quote=Scarlett]
This part about living expenses is just a side story if you want and you want to make a big deal about it. Not sure why you are up in arms. Do you think getting a student loan so one can wear latest fashion, buy an iphone, iPad, starbucks, etc is smart?[/quote]
Spent much time with college students lately? They’re still eating top ramen. It just costs more than it did when you were in college.
SK in CV
Participant[quote=meadandale][quote=briansd1]Very unreliable sources you quoted, meadandale
[/quote]Says you…and in all likelihood primarily because you disagree with information since it conflicts with your world view of Obama.[/quote]
And obviously the opposite is also true.
But considering it is an unnamed source quoting an unnamed source and hasn’t been widely reported, it seems dubious at best. A “long-time Washington, D.C. insider” reports to a website no one has ever heard of that he has Whitehouse insider information, including pre-action leaks by Hillary Clinton’s office. Really? That’s who a long time insider would report to? Not Fox News? I call BS. Find a pre-action leak. Then at least one of the calls can be verified. It really smells of totally made up BS.
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Participant[quote=meadandale][quote=briansd1]Very unreliable sources you quoted, meadandale
[/quote]Says you…and in all likelihood primarily because you disagree with information since it conflicts with your world view of Obama.[/quote]
And obviously the opposite is also true.
But considering it is an unnamed source quoting an unnamed source and hasn’t been widely reported, it seems dubious at best. A “long-time Washington, D.C. insider” reports to a website no one has ever heard of that he has Whitehouse insider information, including pre-action leaks by Hillary Clinton’s office. Really? That’s who a long time insider would report to? Not Fox News? I call BS. Find a pre-action leak. Then at least one of the calls can be verified. It really smells of totally made up BS.
SK in CV
Participant[quote=meadandale][quote=briansd1]Very unreliable sources you quoted, meadandale
[/quote]Says you…and in all likelihood primarily because you disagree with information since it conflicts with your world view of Obama.[/quote]
And obviously the opposite is also true.
But considering it is an unnamed source quoting an unnamed source and hasn’t been widely reported, it seems dubious at best. A “long-time Washington, D.C. insider” reports to a website no one has ever heard of that he has Whitehouse insider information, including pre-action leaks by Hillary Clinton’s office. Really? That’s who a long time insider would report to? Not Fox News? I call BS. Find a pre-action leak. Then at least one of the calls can be verified. It really smells of totally made up BS.
SK in CV
Participant[quote=meadandale][quote=briansd1]Very unreliable sources you quoted, meadandale
[/quote]Says you…and in all likelihood primarily because you disagree with information since it conflicts with your world view of Obama.[/quote]
And obviously the opposite is also true.
But considering it is an unnamed source quoting an unnamed source and hasn’t been widely reported, it seems dubious at best. A “long-time Washington, D.C. insider” reports to a website no one has ever heard of that he has Whitehouse insider information, including pre-action leaks by Hillary Clinton’s office. Really? That’s who a long time insider would report to? Not Fox News? I call BS. Find a pre-action leak. Then at least one of the calls can be verified. It really smells of totally made up BS.
SK in CV
Participant[quote=meadandale][quote=briansd1]Very unreliable sources you quoted, meadandale
[/quote]Says you…and in all likelihood primarily because you disagree with information since it conflicts with your world view of Obama.[/quote]
And obviously the opposite is also true.
But considering it is an unnamed source quoting an unnamed source and hasn’t been widely reported, it seems dubious at best. A “long-time Washington, D.C. insider” reports to a website no one has ever heard of that he has Whitehouse insider information, including pre-action leaks by Hillary Clinton’s office. Really? That’s who a long time insider would report to? Not Fox News? I call BS. Find a pre-action leak. Then at least one of the calls can be verified. It really smells of totally made up BS.
SK in CV
Participant[quote=Scarlett]Anybody thinks college will become less of a requirement for a decent job? Given that in 10 years from now not that many people would even get a college degree?
What about the idea that companies/employers offer college graduates a minimum pay AND assume the college debt – IF the graduate stays with them for X (5?10?) years. (equivalent of mortgage I suppose). Indentured servitude.[/quote]
No, and no.
Top paying jobs will still require college degrees. We might see an increase in conditional grants, where students get their education paid for in exchange for commitments (like there are now for physicians who commit to practice for some length of time in rural and other underserved areas).
I suspect college costs will plateau sometime soon. Federal funding may be greatly reduced and price will be a bigger concern.
We still have pretty good deals here for California residents. Costs for resident students have increased sharply for both the state university and the university of california systems over the last 5 years, but they’re still very competitive, particularly the bang for the buck with the UC system. Currently, that systems has 6 of the top 11 public universities. (And 4 of the top 20 in “Best Value”.) Their 4 year graduation rate is also better than average.
In state costs used to be among the cheapest, but no more. They’re now pretty average in costs, but when considering aid based need, they fall well below average. Average debt at graduation is better than average for public universities, with most of the UC’s falling in in the $16 to $18,000 range.
Great chart with most of this information can be found at:
SK in CV
Participant[quote=Scarlett]Anybody thinks college will become less of a requirement for a decent job? Given that in 10 years from now not that many people would even get a college degree?
What about the idea that companies/employers offer college graduates a minimum pay AND assume the college debt – IF the graduate stays with them for X (5?10?) years. (equivalent of mortgage I suppose). Indentured servitude.[/quote]
No, and no.
Top paying jobs will still require college degrees. We might see an increase in conditional grants, where students get their education paid for in exchange for commitments (like there are now for physicians who commit to practice for some length of time in rural and other underserved areas).
I suspect college costs will plateau sometime soon. Federal funding may be greatly reduced and price will be a bigger concern.
We still have pretty good deals here for California residents. Costs for resident students have increased sharply for both the state university and the university of california systems over the last 5 years, but they’re still very competitive, particularly the bang for the buck with the UC system. Currently, that systems has 6 of the top 11 public universities. (And 4 of the top 20 in “Best Value”.) Their 4 year graduation rate is also better than average.
In state costs used to be among the cheapest, but no more. They’re now pretty average in costs, but when considering aid based need, they fall well below average. Average debt at graduation is better than average for public universities, with most of the UC’s falling in in the $16 to $18,000 range.
Great chart with most of this information can be found at:
SK in CV
Participant[quote=Scarlett]Anybody thinks college will become less of a requirement for a decent job? Given that in 10 years from now not that many people would even get a college degree?
What about the idea that companies/employers offer college graduates a minimum pay AND assume the college debt – IF the graduate stays with them for X (5?10?) years. (equivalent of mortgage I suppose). Indentured servitude.[/quote]
No, and no.
Top paying jobs will still require college degrees. We might see an increase in conditional grants, where students get their education paid for in exchange for commitments (like there are now for physicians who commit to practice for some length of time in rural and other underserved areas).
I suspect college costs will plateau sometime soon. Federal funding may be greatly reduced and price will be a bigger concern.
We still have pretty good deals here for California residents. Costs for resident students have increased sharply for both the state university and the university of california systems over the last 5 years, but they’re still very competitive, particularly the bang for the buck with the UC system. Currently, that systems has 6 of the top 11 public universities. (And 4 of the top 20 in “Best Value”.) Their 4 year graduation rate is also better than average.
In state costs used to be among the cheapest, but no more. They’re now pretty average in costs, but when considering aid based need, they fall well below average. Average debt at graduation is better than average for public universities, with most of the UC’s falling in in the $16 to $18,000 range.
Great chart with most of this information can be found at:
SK in CV
Participant[quote=Scarlett]Anybody thinks college will become less of a requirement for a decent job? Given that in 10 years from now not that many people would even get a college degree?
What about the idea that companies/employers offer college graduates a minimum pay AND assume the college debt – IF the graduate stays with them for X (5?10?) years. (equivalent of mortgage I suppose). Indentured servitude.[/quote]
No, and no.
Top paying jobs will still require college degrees. We might see an increase in conditional grants, where students get their education paid for in exchange for commitments (like there are now for physicians who commit to practice for some length of time in rural and other underserved areas).
I suspect college costs will plateau sometime soon. Federal funding may be greatly reduced and price will be a bigger concern.
We still have pretty good deals here for California residents. Costs for resident students have increased sharply for both the state university and the university of california systems over the last 5 years, but they’re still very competitive, particularly the bang for the buck with the UC system. Currently, that systems has 6 of the top 11 public universities. (And 4 of the top 20 in “Best Value”.) Their 4 year graduation rate is also better than average.
In state costs used to be among the cheapest, but no more. They’re now pretty average in costs, but when considering aid based need, they fall well below average. Average debt at graduation is better than average for public universities, with most of the UC’s falling in in the $16 to $18,000 range.
Great chart with most of this information can be found at:
SK in CV
Participant[quote=Scarlett]Anybody thinks college will become less of a requirement for a decent job? Given that in 10 years from now not that many people would even get a college degree?
What about the idea that companies/employers offer college graduates a minimum pay AND assume the college debt – IF the graduate stays with them for X (5?10?) years. (equivalent of mortgage I suppose). Indentured servitude.[/quote]
No, and no.
Top paying jobs will still require college degrees. We might see an increase in conditional grants, where students get their education paid for in exchange for commitments (like there are now for physicians who commit to practice for some length of time in rural and other underserved areas).
I suspect college costs will plateau sometime soon. Federal funding may be greatly reduced and price will be a bigger concern.
We still have pretty good deals here for California residents. Costs for resident students have increased sharply for both the state university and the university of california systems over the last 5 years, but they’re still very competitive, particularly the bang for the buck with the UC system. Currently, that systems has 6 of the top 11 public universities. (And 4 of the top 20 in “Best Value”.) Their 4 year graduation rate is also better than average.
In state costs used to be among the cheapest, but no more. They’re now pretty average in costs, but when considering aid based need, they fall well below average. Average debt at graduation is better than average for public universities, with most of the UC’s falling in in the $16 to $18,000 range.
Great chart with most of this information can be found at:
SK in CV
Participant[quote=Zeitgeist]
I wonder where UBL’s skull will end up?[/quote]
I wonder where his massive CD collection of show tunes ends up.
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