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[quote=walterwhite]henry ford thought the jews were planning a giant conspiracy. he was kind of a wackadoodle.[/quote]

That’s a bit of an understatement. He bought a newspaper so he could publish the fraudulent “Protocols of the Elders of Zion”, and continued with daily additional anti-semetic rants, eventually publishing them as a book. A copy of which was found in Hitler’s bedroom, with laudatory handwritten notes. Understandable, they were brothers in thought. His name should be synonymous with Benedict Arnold. Treasonous, or guilty of sedition at least. I don’t really know much about Steve Jobs outside of Apple. But I suspect in comparison to Ford, he’s a saint.

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[quote=walterwhite]henry ford thought the jews were planning a giant conspiracy. he was kind of a wackadoodle.[/quote]

That’s a bit of an understatement. He bought a newspaper so he could publish the fraudulent “Protocols of the Elders of Zion”, and continued with daily additional anti-semetic rants, eventually publishing them as a book. A copy of which was found in Hitler’s bedroom, with laudatory handwritten notes. Understandable, they were brothers in thought. His name should be synonymous with Benedict Arnold. Treasonous, or guilty of sedition at least. I don’t really know much about Steve Jobs outside of Apple. But I suspect in comparison to Ford, he’s a saint.

[SK in CV]

[quote=walterwhite]henry ford thought the jews were planning a giant conspiracy. he was kind of a wackadoodle.[/quote]

That’s a bit of an understatement. He bought a newspaper so he could publish the fraudulent “Protocols of the Elders of Zion”, and continued with daily additional anti-semetic rants, eventually publishing them as a book. A copy of which was found in Hitler’s bedroom, with laudatory handwritten notes. Understandable, they were brothers in thought. His name should be synonymous with Benedict Arnold. Treasonous, or guilty of sedition at least. I don’t really know much about Steve Jobs outside of Apple. But I suspect in comparison to Ford, he’s a saint.

[SK in CV]

[quote=walterwhite]henry ford thought the jews were planning a giant conspiracy. he was kind of a wackadoodle.[/quote]

That’s a bit of an understatement. He bought a newspaper so he could publish the fraudulent “Protocols of the Elders of Zion”, and continued with daily additional anti-semetic rants, eventually publishing them as a book. A copy of which was found in Hitler’s bedroom, with laudatory handwritten notes. Understandable, they were brothers in thought. His name should be synonymous with Benedict Arnold. Treasonous, or guilty of sedition at least. I don’t really know much about Steve Jobs outside of Apple. But I suspect in comparison to Ford, he’s a saint.

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[quote=AN][quote=Nor-LA-SD-GUY2]RP not an evangelical I think so probably not getting evangelical support as much.[/quote]
Not only is he not evangelical, he doesn’t believe in banning gay marriage or abortion at the federal level. That should be more than enough to drive away those evangelical voters. I think he attracts socially liberal financially conservative GOP voters.[/quote]

So he believes in personal freedoms at the federal level but not at the state level? That’s a cop out. He doesn’t believe in personal freedom at all, unless it’s his kind of freedom. He IS anti-gay. He IS opposed to a woman’s right to privacy. He’s just another hypocrite.

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[quote=AN][quote=Nor-LA-SD-GUY2]RP not an evangelical I think so probably not getting evangelical support as much.[/quote]
Not only is he not evangelical, he doesn’t believe in banning gay marriage or abortion at the federal level. That should be more than enough to drive away those evangelical voters. I think he attracts socially liberal financially conservative GOP voters.[/quote]

So he believes in personal freedoms at the federal level but not at the state level? That’s a cop out. He doesn’t believe in personal freedom at all, unless it’s his kind of freedom. He IS anti-gay. He IS opposed to a woman’s right to privacy. He’s just another hypocrite.

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[quote=AN][quote=Nor-LA-SD-GUY2]RP not an evangelical I think so probably not getting evangelical support as much.[/quote]
Not only is he not evangelical, he doesn’t believe in banning gay marriage or abortion at the federal level. That should be more than enough to drive away those evangelical voters. I think he attracts socially liberal financially conservative GOP voters.[/quote]

So he believes in personal freedoms at the federal level but not at the state level? That’s a cop out. He doesn’t believe in personal freedom at all, unless it’s his kind of freedom. He IS anti-gay. He IS opposed to a woman’s right to privacy. He’s just another hypocrite.

[SK in CV]

[quote=AN][quote=Nor-LA-SD-GUY2]RP not an evangelical I think so probably not getting evangelical support as much.[/quote]
Not only is he not evangelical, he doesn’t believe in banning gay marriage or abortion at the federal level. That should be more than enough to drive away those evangelical voters. I think he attracts socially liberal financially conservative GOP voters.[/quote]

So he believes in personal freedoms at the federal level but not at the state level? That’s a cop out. He doesn’t believe in personal freedom at all, unless it’s his kind of freedom. He IS anti-gay. He IS opposed to a woman’s right to privacy. He’s just another hypocrite.

[SK in CV]

[quote=AN][quote=Nor-LA-SD-GUY2]RP not an evangelical I think so probably not getting evangelical support as much.[/quote]
Not only is he not evangelical, he doesn’t believe in banning gay marriage or abortion at the federal level. That should be more than enough to drive away those evangelical voters. I think he attracts socially liberal financially conservative GOP voters.[/quote]

So he believes in personal freedoms at the federal level but not at the state level? That’s a cop out. He doesn’t believe in personal freedom at all, unless it’s his kind of freedom. He IS anti-gay. He IS opposed to a woman’s right to privacy. He’s just another hypocrite.

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[quote=briansd1][quote=Mark Holmes]
Well, that is exactly the point. Other companies DID create those electronics before Apple. But they created abysmal pieces of electronic trash.[/quote]

That would put Steve Jobs in the same category as Akio Morita of Sony, but of a different generation. People will forget Steve Jobs.

Steve Jobs doesn’t compare to the Rockerfellers who left a lasting legacy in America.

I don’t even think that Steve Jobs compares to Henry Ford in terms of proportional relevance.

Bill and Melina Gates and Warren Buffet are doing great things for the world with their money.[/quote]

And Henry Ford was one of the most egregious bigots of all time. His legacy of one of hate and intolerance. As relevant as his manufacturing legacy.

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[quote=briansd1][quote=Mark Holmes]
Well, that is exactly the point. Other companies DID create those electronics before Apple. But they created abysmal pieces of electronic trash.[/quote]

That would put Steve Jobs in the same category as Akio Morita of Sony, but of a different generation. People will forget Steve Jobs.

Steve Jobs doesn’t compare to the Rockerfellers who left a lasting legacy in America.

I don’t even think that Steve Jobs compares to Henry Ford in terms of proportional relevance.

Bill and Melina Gates and Warren Buffet are doing great things for the world with their money.[/quote]

And Henry Ford was one of the most egregious bigots of all time. His legacy of one of hate and intolerance. As relevant as his manufacturing legacy.

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[quote=briansd1][quote=Mark Holmes]
Well, that is exactly the point. Other companies DID create those electronics before Apple. But they created abysmal pieces of electronic trash.[/quote]

That would put Steve Jobs in the same category as Akio Morita of Sony, but of a different generation. People will forget Steve Jobs.

Steve Jobs doesn’t compare to the Rockerfellers who left a lasting legacy in America.

I don’t even think that Steve Jobs compares to Henry Ford in terms of proportional relevance.

Bill and Melina Gates and Warren Buffet are doing great things for the world with their money.[/quote]

And Henry Ford was one of the most egregious bigots of all time. His legacy of one of hate and intolerance. As relevant as his manufacturing legacy.

[SK in CV]

[quote=briansd1][quote=Mark Holmes]
Well, that is exactly the point. Other companies DID create those electronics before Apple. But they created abysmal pieces of electronic trash.[/quote]

That would put Steve Jobs in the same category as Akio Morita of Sony, but of a different generation. People will forget Steve Jobs.

Steve Jobs doesn’t compare to the Rockerfellers who left a lasting legacy in America.

I don’t even think that Steve Jobs compares to Henry Ford in terms of proportional relevance.

Bill and Melina Gates and Warren Buffet are doing great things for the world with their money.[/quote]

And Henry Ford was one of the most egregious bigots of all time. His legacy of one of hate and intolerance. As relevant as his manufacturing legacy.

[SK in CV]

[quote=briansd1][quote=Mark Holmes]
Well, that is exactly the point. Other companies DID create those electronics before Apple. But they created abysmal pieces of electronic trash.[/quote]

That would put Steve Jobs in the same category as Akio Morita of Sony, but of a different generation. People will forget Steve Jobs.

Steve Jobs doesn’t compare to the Rockerfellers who left a lasting legacy in America.

I don’t even think that Steve Jobs compares to Henry Ford in terms of proportional relevance.

Bill and Melina Gates and Warren Buffet are doing great things for the world with their money.[/quote]

And Henry Ford was one of the most egregious bigots of all time. His legacy of one of hate and intolerance. As relevant as his manufacturing legacy.

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[quote=aldante]
Explain how he is as inconsistent as the other candidates in his beliefs given his voting record in Congress. Also, given his stance on the wars, appropriations bills, and civil liberties. Oh and do please make sure that you reference the other candidates stances on the FED (as well as the other issues I mentinoned) in 2008. That way you can make it clear that he is as inconsistent as the other candidates. Who knows maybe you will make me a believer…………….
Assuming you will not be able to do that – and you will not….then we can talk about the real issue which is why there is a perception out there that he is unelectable. I think you will find it is NOT becasue he is inconsistent![/quote]

I gave you two glaring inconsistencies in his libertarian dogma. As compared to other candidates? No need, I already directed you to two inconsistencies. Do others have more? Michelle Bachmann, who I disagree with on many things, and think is incompetent to be president is reasonably consistent in her voting record. And her absolute looniness. I’m not convinced that either absolute consistency nor looniness is an asset.

I’ve explained why I think he’s unelectable. Obviously that is just my opinion. And I’ve explained why I think that. It has zero to do with his ideologies or political views. Why the perception is there, I could only surmise, but it is. His supporters point to the Iowa straw poll as evidence of his support. Really??? Less than 5,000 votes. LESS than 1% of Republican voters. Less than .4% of registered voters. He is unelectable because he has insufficient support, just as he did in his two prior presidential bids. As long as he is perceived as unelectable, he is unelectable.

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