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Participant[quote=AN]Does it really matter what she say? She said so herself that she has a private and public position. What you hear might not be what the private bankers hear.[/quote]
She didn’t say anywhere in that line the two were different or inconsistent with each other. As she said last night, one is used to convince the masses, and another is used to convince those she meets with in small rooms. Her goal remains the same, to get the deal done.
There doesn’t appear to be anything in Clinton’s current plan to do away with stepped up basis.
Participant[quote=zk][quote=FlyerInHi]Some sociology is enabling Trump.
Who did the enabling and what do we do with the ideology and the people?
Don’t we all have the responsibility to destroy such thinking?[/quote]Destroy such thinking? No such thing as destroying a type of thinking.[/quote]
Hence the absurdity of claiming a plan to destroy radical Islam or terrorism.
ParticipantBG, if you’re talking about the book “Crisis in Character”, you should check out what other Secret Service employees have to say about it. It’s garbage. The never had access to what he claims to have witnessed.
And you keep focusing on what he said about Nancy O’dell, which is NOT the part I originally quoted because, while it is disgusting, it wasn’t the worst part. The worst part is when he bragged about physically assaulting women. You have somehow excused that because someone not running for any office has accused of doing worse. It’s astounding. But it was astounding when you excused his racism.
Participant[quote=scaredyclassic][quote=SK in CV][quote=scaredyclassic]im with BG on this one. it seems a little sad, but not really that offensive. hes a doofus lech, really the next generation of women will probably just krav maga douchebags like this in the nuts if they try to pull this crap on them.
would be hilarious if he tried to kiss some young chick and she grabbed his orange hair and slammed his face really hard into her knee and cracked his jaw.
but in its context its like talking to howard stern …he was probably trying to sound like a player.
shouldnt be what an election turns on, unless jesus.[/quote]
Bragging about physically abusing women isn’t that offensive?[/quote]
i was not offended in that context. it was jocular.
if he had been serious and meanspirited about going and grabbing some pussy at that moment, it would have been offensive. this was more of howard sternish performance art.
not great, politically, but i remain unoffended…im not condoning assault. indeed as i said i would enjoy watchingva tape of a modern young women breaking his face if he pulled any crap on her. but those remarks in that context just dont outrage me.[/quote]
Does it make any difference to you that he’s been accused by a number of women of doing exactly that? Without permission, grabbing their crotches. He was bragging about actually doing it. Is that a lot different than bragging about raping women?
Participant[quote=scaredyclassic]im with BG on this one. it seems a little sad, but not really that offensive. hes a doofus lech, really the next generation of women will probably just krav maga douchebags like this in the nuts if they try to pull this crap on them.
would be hilarious if he tried to kiss some young chick and she grabbed his orange hair and slammed his face really hard into her knee and cracked his jaw.
but in its context its like talking to howard stern …he was probably trying to sound like a player.
shouldnt be what an election turns on, unless jesus.[/quote]
Bragging about physically abusing women isn’t that offensive?
ParticipantIn other words, but what about some guy who isn’t running for president.
And no, I didn’t leave out the important part. He bragged about physically abusing women.
Participant[quote=svelte][quote=SK in CV] Pence schedule reportedly removed from Trump website…[/quote]
Nope, still there.
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/schedule/
Where are you getting your info?
Would be super if true, but I’m skeptical…[/quote]
Apparently he had a full schedule and it was reduced to nothing but Monday. It was a twitter thing. His stable of surrogates on the teevee has grown noticeably smaller.
Participant[quote=SK in CV]
Trump said he won’t pull out. He’s never pulled out. Is anyone surprised?[/quote]He is, however, currently been sent out on the lifeboat in order to save the ship. GOP coup currently underway. Pence schedule reportedly removed from Trump website. GOP members of congress have been ordered to not defend or say anything favorable about their nominee. He’s out there by himself.
Participant[quote=zk][quote=flu]Zk,
Trump said it: “zero chance he will quit”….No worries about pence.[/quote]
Well, Trump says a lot of things. But I hope you’re right.
It wouldn’t surprise me if Trump, come early November, sees he can’t win and has to (in his mind) choose between the humiliation of losing and the indignity of quitting.
I would guess, from what I’ve seen of trump, that he would choose indignity over humiliation every time. That’s why I’m worried.
There’s nothing that scares Trump more, it seems to me, than being a loser. I think he’ll avoid that at all costs. The question is: what would be easier for trump? Making some excuse to quit and convincing himself he would’ve won…Or losing and convincing himself the election was rigged.[/quote]
Trump said he won’t pull out. He’s never pulled out. Is anyone surprised?
Participant[quote=outtamojo][quote=FlyerInHi][quote=outtamojo] and yet here he is, still in the running for POTUS.[/quote]
Because of at least 60% of the Republican Party and about 40% of the population.[/quote]
How does the GOP suffer this constant humiliation? What adverse effect is choosing to stay with their champion having on them?[/quote]
The problem is that too many don’t actually see this as a humiliation. And for those that this was the final straw, you really have to ask, why did you accept “Mexicans are rapists”? Birtherism? Muslim ban? All the rest of his racist screeds? Why is it only when he says something outrageous about a white woman are you actually outraged?
The fact is, the assault that Trump described is what the Republican party has been doing for 40 years to women. Rather than grabbing women with their hands, they’ve grabbed women through legislation. The language he used might be a little more personal, a little more outrageous. But the outcome is just the same.
ParticipantMakes me sad. I went to the first one on Mission Gorge pretty regularly when it first opened, then the one in RB when I lived in Poway. It was one of kids’ favorites when we lived in CV. And I just went to a Sweet Tomatoes in Phoenix a few weeks ago. Seemed like a reasonably well run operation. What people like changes. Maybe we’re past the salad bar phase. When I mentioned it to my brother, he reminded me I lost a bit of money investing in a copy cat chain in the early 80’s.
ParticipantThe fact that he still has support from anyone is astounding. This happened just a few months after he married wife #3. His wife was pregnant.
“I’ve gotta use some tic tacs, just in case I start kissing her,” Trump says.“You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. Just kiss. I don’t even wait.”
“And when you’re a star they let you do it,” Trump says. “You can do anything.”
“Whatever you want,” says another voice, apparently Bush’s.
“Grab them by the pussy,” Trump says. “You can do anything”And before anyone suggests that it’s fake, it didn’t happen, it was taken out of context. It wasn’t. It’s on tape. He’s already apologized for it. Said it was just “locker room talk”. I have three brothers. I can’t count the thousands of hours I spent in locker rooms. I never heard anyone talk like that. But I guess, if you were ok with “Mexicans are rapists”, banning muslims, birtherism, encouraging Nazis, there isn’t much problem with saying physical abuse of women is no biggie either.
Participant[quote=njtosd][quote=SK in CV][quote=njtosd][quote=SK in CV]
NYT btw, is NOT pro-Clinton. As a whole, they’ve pretty much hated the Clinton’s since the mid 90’s.[/quote]
Really? The long line of endorsements of Democratic candidates is just a clever ruse, I guess. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/09/23/opinion/presidential-endorsement-timeline.html?_r=0%5B/quote%5D
That would be the editorial board. I’m talking about their news department. Count the number of articles about Clinton’s email. Then count the number that mention that the director of the FBI said there were no properly marked classified emails sent or received by her. Zero. Count the number of articles about the Clinton foundation which include zero evidence of any corruption. Now count the number about the Trump foundation which has a dozen or so charges of corruption with evidence. Read Maureen Dowd’s column’s. She can’t type more than a few hundred words without criticizing Clinton.[/quote]
😉 Gotcha. Simply critiquing the Dems doesn’t mean it isn’t Dem leaning – and last I checked the editors were the people in charge.[/quote]
Right, I didn’t say Dems. As far as political party, they reflect their city. It leans more Dem than Republican. But I said Clinton specifically. The political reporters do not like the Clintons, and haven’t since Bill was President. It shows in what they cover and how they cover it.
Participant[quote=njtosd][quote=SK in CV]
NYT btw, is NOT pro-Clinton. As a whole, they’ve pretty much hated the Clinton’s since the mid 90’s.[/quote]
Really? The long line of endorsements of Democratic candidates is just a clever ruse, I guess. http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/09/23/opinion/presidential-endorsement-timeline.html?_r=0%5B/quote%5D
That would be the editorial board. I’m talking about their news department. Count the number of articles about Clinton’s email. Then count the number that mention that the director of the FBI said there were no properly marked classified emails sent or received by her. Zero. Count the number of articles about the Clinton foundation which include zero evidence of any corruption. Now count the number about the Trump foundation which has a dozen or so charges of corruption with evidence. Read Maureen Dowd’s column’s. She can’t type more than a few hundred words without criticizing Clinton.
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