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Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]SK. for what it’s worth, I support universal health care with the goal of better health for the population. But I won’t fight for it.
I have no sympathy for the working class Trump base who cling on to their failing culture. Let them suffer the consequences of Trump so they may learn. No need to protect the ingrates.[/quote]
So screw the kids born with congenital heart defects, T1 diabetes, CP and other diseases that will make them effectively uninsurable if the current repeal/replace bill passes? Were those “lifestyle choices” also that you feel no need to protect?
Participant[quote=harvey]It’s already obvious that he’s neglecting the work. He’s given up on health care, is not making any effort to lead on the budget.
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I think you’re overestimating his qualifications. He hasn’t given up on those things. He was never qualified to lead on them in the first place. He doesn’t understand how any of it works. He’s used to telling others what to do, and they do it. “Hey you, build a building”.
He’s not smart enough to learn how it works. It would require first that he become a competent reader. He’s proven that 8th grade history books are above his capabilities.
So he’s left it to people like Brian, who think that all health care issues are related to personal choices. Fortunately, there are probably enough voters who have had, or can empathize with parents who have had sick children.
Those that think somehow he’ll be pardoned, keep your eye on the NY AG. President can’t issue pardons for state crimes.
Participant[quote=harvey]
The “simplify taxes” agenda is just another part of the schtick that will accomplish nothing. The basic 1040 stuff like W2 income and typical the deductions I listed above aren’t what makes taxes complicated. Taxes become complicated when one has business income. And that will not change.
.[/quote]That’s a great point but it’s still way more complicated than just “business” income. It’s the source of the business income, the type of entity where the business income came from. Is it business income or investment income? Passive or active? With or without active participation, with or without material participation. Are there tax preferences used in arriving at the income amount? There are 20 different lines for non-wage income on the 1040, and many of them include many types of income. And then, there are an additional 13 lines of adjustments to income, many of those including different types of adjustments. Tax returns aren’t complicated because of too many rates. They’re complicated because writing tax law is complicated. Way too complicated for Donald Trump.
ParticipantConfirmed today by WH, 401k plans are out as part of this plan, even though not mentioned in yesterday’s release. Presumably referring to current deferrals, not monies already in plans. Why? Because $18,000 deferrals don’t mean shit to really rich people.
Participant[quote=ltsdd]Good info on what this tax plan means:
That article is written by someone who doesn’t know how taxes work. The actual plan is less than a page long. Better to go directly to what Treasury issued and make your own guesses about what it means. (e.g. article says alimony deduction and student loan interest may go. Fake news, nothing in what Treasury issued to even guess that’s part of the plan.)
Participant[quote=flu]But in all seriousness, come on people, you know this has no shot at passing right? You know Trump’s mo… Throw something out there that seems to appeal to the lowest common denominator of understanding, knowing realistically it has no chance of succeeding. Then playing CYA and saying “See, I tried to do something” and then assess blame on “Congress/Judges/The Establishment” for why it didn’t go through.
How many times have we seen this playbook now?
Trump won’t challenge the ACA, won’t challenge any of the court rulings. He’s just buying time and distractions on the next item to “fix”….I mean, if he actually did challenge and win, it would be considerably more work for his administration, and we all know he’s not really trying to do anything that requires more work…
You guys worry too much. I’m having a great time. It feels like everyone is drunk, and no one cares. lol.[/quote]
I think your take on this is pretty good. He craves good press about himself. He can’t get it on anything that requires hard work. History shows, he picked the wrong party for hard work when it comes to government policy.
I’ll give you something to worry about. There’s only one thing he really has control over that he doesn’t have to worry about congress or the courts, that’s his position as CIC. He doesn’t want to get mired into more muck in the ME. That’s already failed. Even he isn’t stupid enough to get into a war with that crazy fuck in NK. But I’m pretty sure he’s gonna start a war. My guess is Venezuela. Take out Maduro, quick like, and still leave the oligarchs in place. I’m hope I’m wrong. But he’s gonna drop more bombs and more people are gonna die. Because he wants approval.
Participant[quote=flu]People who upper income wage earners don’t get to fully enjoy the itemized deduction from state taxes, property taxes, and vehicle registration taxes as people think they enjoy anyway…
It’s called AMT.
The tax upper income wage earners get hit with every year, well below what the taxes you normally would pay if you were able to fully deduct state/property/vehicle registration taxes. In fact, for most upper income wage earners, there’s no point in even itemizing things such as vehicle registration taxes because it makes absolutely no difference after AMT.
AMT tax rate is calculated such that state/property/vehicle registration taxes cannot be deducted.[/quote]
That’s a California thing. And a few other states with high top marginal rates. States with top marginal rates of 5% or less, AMT doesn’t hit very often. Irony is, the so-called plan does away with AMT, and the cause of the AMT for most high wage earners. Lose before, lose again. The big benefit is for those with humungous income that have preference items that drop their overall rate below the AMT rate.
ParticipantI admit I haven’t read a lot about it, but I haven’t noticed anything about any perversion. He just tried to bully women into having sex with him. That doesn’t make him a pervert. Just makes him an ahole.
Bullying is using physical or financial power. Erotic is using a feather. Perverted is using the whole chicken.
Participant[quote=FlyerInHi]
We should just sit back and let Republicans take the blame for healthcare. Those of us who have earthy crunchy lifestyles don’t need much medicine anyway.[/quote]While you’re sitting back and blaming republicans, what am I supposed to do to if I develop a serious medical condition that requires hospitalization? Absent the ACA, I’m uninsurable.
Participant“Partners” implies a partnership. Whether in writing or not, that’s a legal contract that is being created. If a written agreement exists, it needs to be reviewed by a lawyer, and be revised to include the new partner, including any new protection that the new partner and the remaining partner agree on.
If the property is currently owned by an existing partnership, than possibly nothing needs to be done with the deed. If the intent is for the property to be owned by a new partnership, then a new deed can be drawn in the name of the new partnership.
If I was the remaining partner, there is no chance I would agree to a lien in favor of the new partner, unless some of that cash is going to the remaining partner or the partnership. Ownership of the property essentially creates a lien. The owners own everything that is not protected by other liens. It’s unclear to me why a new partner would or should have any preferential position over the remaining partner.
Partnerships are only as reliable as the individual partners are. My father was in one for more than 30 years with no written agreement. I’ve been in one with a very simple written agreement since 1992 without any problems.
Participant[quote=moneymaker]If Trump is successful don’t you think the next CA election for governor will involve a Republican candidate that says he/she will bring jobs back?[/quote]
Employment is growing in California, not shrinking. Much like on the federal level, claiming a path to “bring jobs back” would be a lie. The lie worked at the federal level. As a whole, I think Californians are smarter than that.
Participant[quote=PCinSD][quote=SK in CV]Trump’s taxes, which have gone almost unmentioned, . . .[/quote]
Really? You sure have a habit of misrepresenting the facts.[/quote]
No. I don’t. You have a habit of calling out people for ….nothing at all. Never mind.
Participant[quote=all][quote=harvey]
But the one glaring item where Trump has received a pass is the tax returns.Anybody that has ever filed a 1040 knows that his “audit” excuse is pathetic and a complete sham.
What is Trump hiding and why hasn’t the media pushed harder to make him reveal it?[/quote]
Trump’s taxes and big money supporting Clinton. Two topics that must not be covered.[/quote]
Big money supporting the candidates is the same as big money supporting presidential candidates has always been. Some of it is visible (see opensecrets.org), some of it is more opaque. There’s big money supporting Trump too, not just Clinton. Trump’s taxes, which have gone almost unmentioned, is an anomaly. Every presidential candidate in the last 10 elections have released their returns except for Trump. And Trump, has the most complicated investments of any recent presidential candidate, which makes the lack of disclosure even more problematic.
Participant[quote=PCinSD][quote=SK in CV][quote=PCinSD][quote=SK in CV]You mean misinformation like NOT covering the rape of a 13 year old girl by a presidential candidate as if there was no scandal?[/quote]
Why are you stating the rape as fact? How very Bret Baier of you. Do you have some information that confirms these allegations? Did you notice that neither Hillary, nor the DNC ever alleged Trump was a child rapist? Why do you think that is?
It appears you don’t understand that anyone can allege whatever they want in a lawsuit. Especially when they are anonymous.
And that fraudulent lawsuit was dismissed.[/quote]
I should have said alleged. Suit has not been dismissed. Pretrial hearing is December 18th in New York.[/quote]
Right, someone had to call you out on your incorrect reporting, just like Bret Baier. And, again, why isn’t Hillary and the DNC shouting this from the rooftops? Not one peep.
According to Politico, it was dropped:
http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit-dropped-230770
And Daily Mail:
And Yahoo News:
And The Guardian:
And The Hill:
My mistake, I thought it was a 2nd woman who decided to drop her suit. What exactly was my incorrect reporting? Just that I should have said “alleged” and didn’t? I’m quite sure I’m not a reporter. What is it you think the DNC should be shouting about?
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