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December 8, 2008 at 11:21 PM in reply to: Can you sell your house as a short sale if you can still make the mortgage payment? #313666December 8, 2008 at 11:11 PM in reply to: Can you sell your house as a short sale if you can still make the mortgage payment? #313183
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ParticipantDaniel
Definitely not taking part in any fraud. The lenders ask for certain things and you provide them. I’m shocked that they dont ask for more but they don’t. The seller typically signs something that says all the information I have provided is truthful and accurate, which it is.
sdrDecember 8, 2008 at 11:11 PM in reply to: Can you sell your house as a short sale if you can still make the mortgage payment? #313540sdrealtor
ParticipantDaniel
Definitely not taking part in any fraud. The lenders ask for certain things and you provide them. I’m shocked that they dont ask for more but they don’t. The seller typically signs something that says all the information I have provided is truthful and accurate, which it is.
sdrDecember 8, 2008 at 11:11 PM in reply to: Can you sell your house as a short sale if you can still make the mortgage payment? #313571sdrealtor
ParticipantDaniel
Definitely not taking part in any fraud. The lenders ask for certain things and you provide them. I’m shocked that they dont ask for more but they don’t. The seller typically signs something that says all the information I have provided is truthful and accurate, which it is.
sdrDecember 8, 2008 at 11:11 PM in reply to: Can you sell your house as a short sale if you can still make the mortgage payment? #313593sdrealtor
ParticipantDaniel
Definitely not taking part in any fraud. The lenders ask for certain things and you provide them. I’m shocked that they dont ask for more but they don’t. The seller typically signs something that says all the information I have provided is truthful and accurate, which it is.
sdrDecember 8, 2008 at 11:11 PM in reply to: Can you sell your house as a short sale if you can still make the mortgage payment? #313661sdrealtor
ParticipantDaniel
Definitely not taking part in any fraud. The lenders ask for certain things and you provide them. I’m shocked that they dont ask for more but they don’t. The seller typically signs something that says all the information I have provided is truthful and accurate, which it is.
sdrDecember 8, 2008 at 10:32 PM in reply to: Can you sell your house as a short sale if you can still make the mortgage payment? #313153sdrealtor
ParticipantI have not done a hundred however the team I assembled has been party to over 100. I did not say that little documentation is required, I said that the documetnation they require is inadequate in my opinion to adequately analyze the selelrs situation. For example, they typically ask for a couple months bank statements but make no effort to determine if there are additional bank accounts. They also do not ask for retirement accounts or brokerage account statements as a matter of course. I have completed short sales when NOD’s were never filed (in one case despite no payments made in over 1 year) and when payments were never missed. There are strategies for getting short sales done in such circumstances that are very effective. There are strategies that work when the 2nd is sold out and the 1st is not but the 2nd doesnt want to deal. There are more strategies then I could write in an hour that we have employed successfully.
Here is your comment:
“Generally most banks will not entertain short sales until the seller is technically in default. Given that a notice of default does not happen until about 3 or 4 missed payments it would seem improbable that this guys bank will approve of the short sale.”There is no way for you to say it is improbable without knowing the details of his situation, who is negotiating on his behalf, what strategies they are employing, who his loans are with, are they purchase money or recourse loans and on and on. That is what you said that was misleading.
December 8, 2008 at 10:32 PM in reply to: Can you sell your house as a short sale if you can still make the mortgage payment? #313510sdrealtor
ParticipantI have not done a hundred however the team I assembled has been party to over 100. I did not say that little documentation is required, I said that the documetnation they require is inadequate in my opinion to adequately analyze the selelrs situation. For example, they typically ask for a couple months bank statements but make no effort to determine if there are additional bank accounts. They also do not ask for retirement accounts or brokerage account statements as a matter of course. I have completed short sales when NOD’s were never filed (in one case despite no payments made in over 1 year) and when payments were never missed. There are strategies for getting short sales done in such circumstances that are very effective. There are strategies that work when the 2nd is sold out and the 1st is not but the 2nd doesnt want to deal. There are more strategies then I could write in an hour that we have employed successfully.
Here is your comment:
“Generally most banks will not entertain short sales until the seller is technically in default. Given that a notice of default does not happen until about 3 or 4 missed payments it would seem improbable that this guys bank will approve of the short sale.”There is no way for you to say it is improbable without knowing the details of his situation, who is negotiating on his behalf, what strategies they are employing, who his loans are with, are they purchase money or recourse loans and on and on. That is what you said that was misleading.
December 8, 2008 at 10:32 PM in reply to: Can you sell your house as a short sale if you can still make the mortgage payment? #313541sdrealtor
ParticipantI have not done a hundred however the team I assembled has been party to over 100. I did not say that little documentation is required, I said that the documetnation they require is inadequate in my opinion to adequately analyze the selelrs situation. For example, they typically ask for a couple months bank statements but make no effort to determine if there are additional bank accounts. They also do not ask for retirement accounts or brokerage account statements as a matter of course. I have completed short sales when NOD’s were never filed (in one case despite no payments made in over 1 year) and when payments were never missed. There are strategies for getting short sales done in such circumstances that are very effective. There are strategies that work when the 2nd is sold out and the 1st is not but the 2nd doesnt want to deal. There are more strategies then I could write in an hour that we have employed successfully.
Here is your comment:
“Generally most banks will not entertain short sales until the seller is technically in default. Given that a notice of default does not happen until about 3 or 4 missed payments it would seem improbable that this guys bank will approve of the short sale.”There is no way for you to say it is improbable without knowing the details of his situation, who is negotiating on his behalf, what strategies they are employing, who his loans are with, are they purchase money or recourse loans and on and on. That is what you said that was misleading.
December 8, 2008 at 10:32 PM in reply to: Can you sell your house as a short sale if you can still make the mortgage payment? #313564sdrealtor
ParticipantI have not done a hundred however the team I assembled has been party to over 100. I did not say that little documentation is required, I said that the documetnation they require is inadequate in my opinion to adequately analyze the selelrs situation. For example, they typically ask for a couple months bank statements but make no effort to determine if there are additional bank accounts. They also do not ask for retirement accounts or brokerage account statements as a matter of course. I have completed short sales when NOD’s were never filed (in one case despite no payments made in over 1 year) and when payments were never missed. There are strategies for getting short sales done in such circumstances that are very effective. There are strategies that work when the 2nd is sold out and the 1st is not but the 2nd doesnt want to deal. There are more strategies then I could write in an hour that we have employed successfully.
Here is your comment:
“Generally most banks will not entertain short sales until the seller is technically in default. Given that a notice of default does not happen until about 3 or 4 missed payments it would seem improbable that this guys bank will approve of the short sale.”There is no way for you to say it is improbable without knowing the details of his situation, who is negotiating on his behalf, what strategies they are employing, who his loans are with, are they purchase money or recourse loans and on and on. That is what you said that was misleading.
December 8, 2008 at 10:32 PM in reply to: Can you sell your house as a short sale if you can still make the mortgage payment? #313632sdrealtor
ParticipantI have not done a hundred however the team I assembled has been party to over 100. I did not say that little documentation is required, I said that the documetnation they require is inadequate in my opinion to adequately analyze the selelrs situation. For example, they typically ask for a couple months bank statements but make no effort to determine if there are additional bank accounts. They also do not ask for retirement accounts or brokerage account statements as a matter of course. I have completed short sales when NOD’s were never filed (in one case despite no payments made in over 1 year) and when payments were never missed. There are strategies for getting short sales done in such circumstances that are very effective. There are strategies that work when the 2nd is sold out and the 1st is not but the 2nd doesnt want to deal. There are more strategies then I could write in an hour that we have employed successfully.
Here is your comment:
“Generally most banks will not entertain short sales until the seller is technically in default. Given that a notice of default does not happen until about 3 or 4 missed payments it would seem improbable that this guys bank will approve of the short sale.”There is no way for you to say it is improbable without knowing the details of his situation, who is negotiating on his behalf, what strategies they are employing, who his loans are with, are they purchase money or recourse loans and on and on. That is what you said that was misleading.
December 8, 2008 at 6:27 PM in reply to: Can you sell your house as a short sale if you can still make the mortgage payment? #313078sdrealtor
ParticipantSD R, I suspect they are the exception rather than the rule but I have a couple dozen of them that seem to be exceptions. Every one of them that i have seems to be an exception.
Being experienced and competent as a Realtor does not necessarily equate to be so with short sales. A year ago, I figured out that this business would be all about short sales and REO’s for a few years and sought to capitalize on it. I spoke with many people and figured out how to streamline the process and build something that could scale up. I left a big brokerage because the process would not work in that environment. I have dealth with many negotiators and lenders already. Across the team of people I have assembled to assist me, we have done over a hundred short sales with just about every lender and every combination of lenders. Before we even submit the offer, they tell me how it will likely proceed and generally are spot on. What we do isnt rocket science. I just modelled my short sale business after the way the best REO guy I know conducts his business. Anyone with half a brain who took the time to figure all this out could do what I’m doing and I’m surprised more arent.
As for the depth of information they request, I have worked with every major lender out there and have found that sellers can provide limited information without being dishonest and not get asked for more indepth information. It has happened over and over again. I’m surprised they arent more rigorous in their reviews.
December 8, 2008 at 6:27 PM in reply to: Can you sell your house as a short sale if you can still make the mortgage payment? #313435sdrealtor
ParticipantSD R, I suspect they are the exception rather than the rule but I have a couple dozen of them that seem to be exceptions. Every one of them that i have seems to be an exception.
Being experienced and competent as a Realtor does not necessarily equate to be so with short sales. A year ago, I figured out that this business would be all about short sales and REO’s for a few years and sought to capitalize on it. I spoke with many people and figured out how to streamline the process and build something that could scale up. I left a big brokerage because the process would not work in that environment. I have dealth with many negotiators and lenders already. Across the team of people I have assembled to assist me, we have done over a hundred short sales with just about every lender and every combination of lenders. Before we even submit the offer, they tell me how it will likely proceed and generally are spot on. What we do isnt rocket science. I just modelled my short sale business after the way the best REO guy I know conducts his business. Anyone with half a brain who took the time to figure all this out could do what I’m doing and I’m surprised more arent.
As for the depth of information they request, I have worked with every major lender out there and have found that sellers can provide limited information without being dishonest and not get asked for more indepth information. It has happened over and over again. I’m surprised they arent more rigorous in their reviews.
December 8, 2008 at 6:27 PM in reply to: Can you sell your house as a short sale if you can still make the mortgage payment? #313466sdrealtor
ParticipantSD R, I suspect they are the exception rather than the rule but I have a couple dozen of them that seem to be exceptions. Every one of them that i have seems to be an exception.
Being experienced and competent as a Realtor does not necessarily equate to be so with short sales. A year ago, I figured out that this business would be all about short sales and REO’s for a few years and sought to capitalize on it. I spoke with many people and figured out how to streamline the process and build something that could scale up. I left a big brokerage because the process would not work in that environment. I have dealth with many negotiators and lenders already. Across the team of people I have assembled to assist me, we have done over a hundred short sales with just about every lender and every combination of lenders. Before we even submit the offer, they tell me how it will likely proceed and generally are spot on. What we do isnt rocket science. I just modelled my short sale business after the way the best REO guy I know conducts his business. Anyone with half a brain who took the time to figure all this out could do what I’m doing and I’m surprised more arent.
As for the depth of information they request, I have worked with every major lender out there and have found that sellers can provide limited information without being dishonest and not get asked for more indepth information. It has happened over and over again. I’m surprised they arent more rigorous in their reviews.
December 8, 2008 at 6:27 PM in reply to: Can you sell your house as a short sale if you can still make the mortgage payment? #313488sdrealtor
ParticipantSD R, I suspect they are the exception rather than the rule but I have a couple dozen of them that seem to be exceptions. Every one of them that i have seems to be an exception.
Being experienced and competent as a Realtor does not necessarily equate to be so with short sales. A year ago, I figured out that this business would be all about short sales and REO’s for a few years and sought to capitalize on it. I spoke with many people and figured out how to streamline the process and build something that could scale up. I left a big brokerage because the process would not work in that environment. I have dealth with many negotiators and lenders already. Across the team of people I have assembled to assist me, we have done over a hundred short sales with just about every lender and every combination of lenders. Before we even submit the offer, they tell me how it will likely proceed and generally are spot on. What we do isnt rocket science. I just modelled my short sale business after the way the best REO guy I know conducts his business. Anyone with half a brain who took the time to figure all this out could do what I’m doing and I’m surprised more arent.
As for the depth of information they request, I have worked with every major lender out there and have found that sellers can provide limited information without being dishonest and not get asked for more indepth information. It has happened over and over again. I’m surprised they arent more rigorous in their reviews.
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