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I don’t think you remember correctly.

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I don’t think you remember correctly.

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I don’t think you remember correctly.

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I don’t think you remember correctly.

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I have some special goodies on the line that add up. I’m looking into a product like this one:

http://www.golinuxshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=37466

It feeds the house phone line, but uses the cell phone for the connection. I suspect I won’t like the quality or delay, but worth a try.

I agree – mobile internet access is not a direct sub for cable modem, but in crunch times, people may choose to dump landline ISPs instead of the mobile access just cuz its cheaper.

Thanks to the OP for raising a great question.

Thanks to you for bringing data.

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I have some special goodies on the line that add up. I’m looking into a product like this one:

http://www.golinuxshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=37466

It feeds the house phone line, but uses the cell phone for the connection. I suspect I won’t like the quality or delay, but worth a try.

I agree – mobile internet access is not a direct sub for cable modem, but in crunch times, people may choose to dump landline ISPs instead of the mobile access just cuz its cheaper.

Thanks to the OP for raising a great question.

Thanks to you for bringing data.

[sdduuuude]

I have some special goodies on the line that add up. I’m looking into a product like this one:

http://www.golinuxshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=37466

It feeds the house phone line, but uses the cell phone for the connection. I suspect I won’t like the quality or delay, but worth a try.

I agree – mobile internet access is not a direct sub for cable modem, but in crunch times, people may choose to dump landline ISPs instead of the mobile access just cuz its cheaper.

Thanks to the OP for raising a great question.

Thanks to you for bringing data.

[sdduuuude]

I have some special goodies on the line that add up. I’m looking into a product like this one:

http://www.golinuxshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=37466

It feeds the house phone line, but uses the cell phone for the connection. I suspect I won’t like the quality or delay, but worth a try.

I agree – mobile internet access is not a direct sub for cable modem, but in crunch times, people may choose to dump landline ISPs instead of the mobile access just cuz its cheaper.

Thanks to the OP for raising a great question.

Thanks to you for bringing data.

[sdduuuude]

I have some special goodies on the line that add up. I’m looking into a product like this one:

http://www.golinuxshop.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=37466

It feeds the house phone line, but uses the cell phone for the connection. I suspect I won’t like the quality or delay, but worth a try.

I agree – mobile internet access is not a direct sub for cable modem, but in crunch times, people may choose to dump landline ISPs instead of the mobile access just cuz its cheaper.

Thanks to the OP for raising a great question.

Thanks to you for bringing data.

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I have a second landline phone at my house. It costs me $55/month, though I make very few calls on it.

I have a Verizon plan which allows me to add mobiles for $9.99/month, and any usage on that phone gets subtracted from the minutes I have available for use every month.

Basically, by moving this second line to my Verizon account, I will save $45/month. That move is coming soon.

When people lose their job, they keep their cell phone. It’s that simple. Many will pay their cell phone bill BEFORE rent. Few, if any, industries survied the early 90’s better than wireless.

Some data:
http://www.ctia.org/media/index.cfm/AID/11500
Wireless minutes grew an 10% (yoy) in the first half of 2008. To clarify – that’s the first 6 months of the recession.

I think the industry will continue to grow, but barely. They’ll lose some of the teen market and people will buy crappier phones, but landline substitution for both voice and data will continue.

There may be some price/market share battles through the tough times so some weaker players (Sprint?) may get eaten up. Capitalization and customer service will be key to retention.

I also think T-Mobile is not in the best position due to the fact that they are on a low-capacity system but likely don’t have the capital to upgrade it, and yes – they need to upgrade it. If you aren’t going to listen to CDMAEng on this matter, you might as well not even bother asking anyone on this board.

Cricket has $500M – $1B in capital and are focused on the right customer base.
“Everyone’s a Cricket customer now.”
HEH, HEH.

[sdduuuude]

I have a second landline phone at my house. It costs me $55/month, though I make very few calls on it.

I have a Verizon plan which allows me to add mobiles for $9.99/month, and any usage on that phone gets subtracted from the minutes I have available for use every month.

Basically, by moving this second line to my Verizon account, I will save $45/month. That move is coming soon.

When people lose their job, they keep their cell phone. It’s that simple. Many will pay their cell phone bill BEFORE rent. Few, if any, industries survied the early 90’s better than wireless.

Some data:
http://www.ctia.org/media/index.cfm/AID/11500
Wireless minutes grew an 10% (yoy) in the first half of 2008. To clarify – that’s the first 6 months of the recession.

I think the industry will continue to grow, but barely. They’ll lose some of the teen market and people will buy crappier phones, but landline substitution for both voice and data will continue.

There may be some price/market share battles through the tough times so some weaker players (Sprint?) may get eaten up. Capitalization and customer service will be key to retention.

I also think T-Mobile is not in the best position due to the fact that they are on a low-capacity system but likely don’t have the capital to upgrade it, and yes – they need to upgrade it. If you aren’t going to listen to CDMAEng on this matter, you might as well not even bother asking anyone on this board.

Cricket has $500M – $1B in capital and are focused on the right customer base.
“Everyone’s a Cricket customer now.”
HEH, HEH.

[sdduuuude]

I have a second landline phone at my house. It costs me $55/month, though I make very few calls on it.

I have a Verizon plan which allows me to add mobiles for $9.99/month, and any usage on that phone gets subtracted from the minutes I have available for use every month.

Basically, by moving this second line to my Verizon account, I will save $45/month. That move is coming soon.

When people lose their job, they keep their cell phone. It’s that simple. Many will pay their cell phone bill BEFORE rent. Few, if any, industries survied the early 90’s better than wireless.

Some data:
http://www.ctia.org/media/index.cfm/AID/11500
Wireless minutes grew an 10% (yoy) in the first half of 2008. To clarify – that’s the first 6 months of the recession.

I think the industry will continue to grow, but barely. They’ll lose some of the teen market and people will buy crappier phones, but landline substitution for both voice and data will continue.

There may be some price/market share battles through the tough times so some weaker players (Sprint?) may get eaten up. Capitalization and customer service will be key to retention.

I also think T-Mobile is not in the best position due to the fact that they are on a low-capacity system but likely don’t have the capital to upgrade it, and yes – they need to upgrade it. If you aren’t going to listen to CDMAEng on this matter, you might as well not even bother asking anyone on this board.

Cricket has $500M – $1B in capital and are focused on the right customer base.
“Everyone’s a Cricket customer now.”
HEH, HEH.

[sdduuuude]

I have a second landline phone at my house. It costs me $55/month, though I make very few calls on it.

I have a Verizon plan which allows me to add mobiles for $9.99/month, and any usage on that phone gets subtracted from the minutes I have available for use every month.

Basically, by moving this second line to my Verizon account, I will save $45/month. That move is coming soon.

When people lose their job, they keep their cell phone. It’s that simple. Many will pay their cell phone bill BEFORE rent. Few, if any, industries survied the early 90’s better than wireless.

Some data:
http://www.ctia.org/media/index.cfm/AID/11500
Wireless minutes grew an 10% (yoy) in the first half of 2008. To clarify – that’s the first 6 months of the recession.

I think the industry will continue to grow, but barely. They’ll lose some of the teen market and people will buy crappier phones, but landline substitution for both voice and data will continue.

There may be some price/market share battles through the tough times so some weaker players (Sprint?) may get eaten up. Capitalization and customer service will be key to retention.

I also think T-Mobile is not in the best position due to the fact that they are on a low-capacity system but likely don’t have the capital to upgrade it, and yes – they need to upgrade it. If you aren’t going to listen to CDMAEng on this matter, you might as well not even bother asking anyone on this board.

Cricket has $500M – $1B in capital and are focused on the right customer base.
“Everyone’s a Cricket customer now.”
HEH, HEH.

[sdduuuude]

I have a second landline phone at my house. It costs me $55/month, though I make very few calls on it.

I have a Verizon plan which allows me to add mobiles for $9.99/month, and any usage on that phone gets subtracted from the minutes I have available for use every month.

Basically, by moving this second line to my Verizon account, I will save $45/month. That move is coming soon.

When people lose their job, they keep their cell phone. It’s that simple. Many will pay their cell phone bill BEFORE rent. Few, if any, industries survied the early 90’s better than wireless.

Some data:
http://www.ctia.org/media/index.cfm/AID/11500
Wireless minutes grew an 10% (yoy) in the first half of 2008. To clarify – that’s the first 6 months of the recession.

I think the industry will continue to grow, but barely. They’ll lose some of the teen market and people will buy crappier phones, but landline substitution for both voice and data will continue.

There may be some price/market share battles through the tough times so some weaker players (Sprint?) may get eaten up. Capitalization and customer service will be key to retention.

I also think T-Mobile is not in the best position due to the fact that they are on a low-capacity system but likely don’t have the capital to upgrade it, and yes – they need to upgrade it. If you aren’t going to listen to CDMAEng on this matter, you might as well not even bother asking anyone on this board.

Cricket has $500M – $1B in capital and are focused on the right customer base.
“Everyone’s a Cricket customer now.”
HEH, HEH.

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[quote=patientlywaiting]Say a family budget is $50/person per phone. Subscribers aren’t going to be willing to suddenly pay $80 or $100/mo per phone for some extra data services.[/quote]

Your pricing models are wrong here. $50/per person is way off. I have 4 phones on my family plan. Cost is $90/month. Data services are an additional about $30/month (not sure if that is per phone or not – I don’t subscribe to it).

Also, I could see many dumping their fixed-location $50/mo cable modem for a $30/mo mobile EVDO connection. Save $20 and connect anywhere.

Lots of newly unemployed people start businesses and will require enhanced services more than as an employee.

I’m not saying it the wireless industry is growing through the roof, just pointing out that alot of your assumptions and understanding of the industry are not correct.

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