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Participant[quote=briansd1][quote=jpinpb]
I am in favor of not feeding the hungry, but teaching them to fish.
[/quote]Maybe forcing them to fish would be a good thing too.
That’s why I support the military. Not that we need the big guns, but because it’s a huge jobs program and social experiment in racial integration, socialized medicine and enlistment-to-grave type nanny state.[/quote]
IMHO the most successful institution at racial integration.
ParticipantWhy not let the big banks fail, break them up, and sell the chunks to the more responsible banks? And if those guys can’t afford it then give the taxpayers $$ to aid the transaction?
Yes it would be another bailout but at least the financial future would be built on a banking system that isn’t a casino. Am I missing something here? Of course this a late question and mostly rhetorical.
Besides, when the AT&T monopoly was broken up phone lines didn’t go dead.
ParticipantWhy not let the big banks fail, break them up, and sell the chunks to the more responsible banks? And if those guys can’t afford it then give the taxpayers $$ to aid the transaction?
Yes it would be another bailout but at least the financial future would be built on a banking system that isn’t a casino. Am I missing something here? Of course this a late question and mostly rhetorical.
Besides, when the AT&T monopoly was broken up phone lines didn’t go dead.
ParticipantWhy not let the big banks fail, break them up, and sell the chunks to the more responsible banks? And if those guys can’t afford it then give the taxpayers $$ to aid the transaction?
Yes it would be another bailout but at least the financial future would be built on a banking system that isn’t a casino. Am I missing something here? Of course this a late question and mostly rhetorical.
Besides, when the AT&T monopoly was broken up phone lines didn’t go dead.
ParticipantWhy not let the big banks fail, break them up, and sell the chunks to the more responsible banks? And if those guys can’t afford it then give the taxpayers $$ to aid the transaction?
Yes it would be another bailout but at least the financial future would be built on a banking system that isn’t a casino. Am I missing something here? Of course this a late question and mostly rhetorical.
Besides, when the AT&T monopoly was broken up phone lines didn’t go dead.
ParticipantWhy not let the big banks fail, break them up, and sell the chunks to the more responsible banks? And if those guys can’t afford it then give the taxpayers $$ to aid the transaction?
Yes it would be another bailout but at least the financial future would be built on a banking system that isn’t a casino. Am I missing something here? Of course this a late question and mostly rhetorical.
Besides, when the AT&T monopoly was broken up phone lines didn’t go dead.
ParticipantOne of the points that fredo and I are making is that adoption or even a foster home childhood is a much more humane thing to do than abort after the baby becomes conscious.
Yet the left never advocates this.My point all along is the left is not as humane as it thinks nor do it’s values have any depth. And you have done a beautiful job of proving my point.
It has been like pulling teeth just to get you to answer a question that has been phrased in the context of the supposed foundation of left-wing values. That supposed foundation is protecting things with feelings.
ParticipantOne of the points that fredo and I are making is that adoption or even a foster home childhood is a much more humane thing to do than abort after the baby becomes conscious.
Yet the left never advocates this.My point all along is the left is not as humane as it thinks nor do it’s values have any depth. And you have done a beautiful job of proving my point.
It has been like pulling teeth just to get you to answer a question that has been phrased in the context of the supposed foundation of left-wing values. That supposed foundation is protecting things with feelings.
ParticipantOne of the points that fredo and I are making is that adoption or even a foster home childhood is a much more humane thing to do than abort after the baby becomes conscious.
Yet the left never advocates this.My point all along is the left is not as humane as it thinks nor do it’s values have any depth. And you have done a beautiful job of proving my point.
It has been like pulling teeth just to get you to answer a question that has been phrased in the context of the supposed foundation of left-wing values. That supposed foundation is protecting things with feelings.
ParticipantOne of the points that fredo and I are making is that adoption or even a foster home childhood is a much more humane thing to do than abort after the baby becomes conscious.
Yet the left never advocates this.My point all along is the left is not as humane as it thinks nor do it’s values have any depth. And you have done a beautiful job of proving my point.
It has been like pulling teeth just to get you to answer a question that has been phrased in the context of the supposed foundation of left-wing values. That supposed foundation is protecting things with feelings.
ParticipantOne of the points that fredo and I are making is that adoption or even a foster home childhood is a much more humane thing to do than abort after the baby becomes conscious.
Yet the left never advocates this.My point all along is the left is not as humane as it thinks nor do it’s values have any depth. And you have done a beautiful job of proving my point.
It has been like pulling teeth just to get you to answer a question that has been phrased in the context of the supposed foundation of left-wing values. That supposed foundation is protecting things with feelings.
Participant[quote=briansd1]sd_matt, you want to consider the “feelings” of a fetus, yet you’re willing to overlook the “feelings” of adult men and women who have a lifetime of experience living in our society.
In my opinion, a fetus can’t have any feelings or conscience because it has no life experience and no frame of reference.[/quote]
First paragraph; give me an example of what I said that would lead you to think that…..if you are not grasping at straws.
Second paragraph……so if it were you then you would not mind being aborted at,lets say….eight months…since you do not yet have a frame of reference or life experience. Although you would feel yourself dying. But thats just science talking, not your “opinion”. I’m sure you’re opinion caries more weight than science.
So by your standard severely mentally handicapped people who will never be capable of much life experience or a “frame of reference” are not worthy of having their lives protected by law.
I don’t think you have put much thought into your “opinion”. But that’s just my opinion.
Participant[quote=briansd1]sd_matt, you want to consider the “feelings” of a fetus, yet you’re willing to overlook the “feelings” of adult men and women who have a lifetime of experience living in our society.
In my opinion, a fetus can’t have any feelings or conscience because it has no life experience and no frame of reference.[/quote]
First paragraph; give me an example of what I said that would lead you to think that…..if you are not grasping at straws.
Second paragraph……so if it were you then you would not mind being aborted at,lets say….eight months…since you do not yet have a frame of reference or life experience. Although you would feel yourself dying. But thats just science talking, not your “opinion”. I’m sure you’re opinion caries more weight than science.
So by your standard severely mentally handicapped people who will never be capable of much life experience or a “frame of reference” are not worthy of having their lives protected by law.
I don’t think you have put much thought into your “opinion”. But that’s just my opinion.
Participant[quote=briansd1]sd_matt, you want to consider the “feelings” of a fetus, yet you’re willing to overlook the “feelings” of adult men and women who have a lifetime of experience living in our society.
In my opinion, a fetus can’t have any feelings or conscience because it has no life experience and no frame of reference.[/quote]
First paragraph; give me an example of what I said that would lead you to think that…..if you are not grasping at straws.
Second paragraph……so if it were you then you would not mind being aborted at,lets say….eight months…since you do not yet have a frame of reference or life experience. Although you would feel yourself dying. But thats just science talking, not your “opinion”. I’m sure you’re opinion caries more weight than science.
So by your standard severely mentally handicapped people who will never be capable of much life experience or a “frame of reference” are not worthy of having their lives protected by law.
I don’t think you have put much thought into your “opinion”. But that’s just my opinion.
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