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November 9, 2009 at 10:49 AM in reply to: House crams healthcare bill down the countries throat. #480004November 9, 2009 at 10:49 AM in reply to: House crams healthcare bill down the countries throat. #480226
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What do you think would be the effects of allowing interstate competition and getting rid of the anti trust exemptions?
November 9, 2009 at 10:46 AM in reply to: House crams healthcare bill down the countries throat. #479384Participant[quote=briansd1][quote=sd_matt]
I too love the idea of everyone being covered for cheap.
Do you think the people currently in Congress are anywhere within a light year of being able to actually accomplish this?
Personally I think our first order of business should be to fire a lot of Congress and then move onto health care.
Obama said he could pull all kinds of $$ from Medicare by cleaning up waste, fraud and abuse. I sincerely hope he can. In fact wouldn’t it be better that he actually demonstrate this before moving onto reforming one sixth of our economy. That’s a pretty big chunk of change to possibly gamble away.
Doesn’t the current process bother you at least a little with it’s lack of transparency?[/quote]
I think that the way to cut health care cost is to cover everybody.
Right now, the insured are subsidizing the uninsured.
Over time, as the whole population gets access to primary care, people will be healthier and the costs will come down.
I don’t see any lack of transparency. The bill has been debated in Congress and the representatives voted. Most bills are passed much more quickly.
We went to war in Iraq with hardly any debate at all. It has cost $1 trillion so far.
Providing health care to all our citizens would do much greater good. The cost will be $1 trillion over a decade. But if we can hold down the growth of health costs, then the savings will be much greater.
A decade from now, the success or failure of health care reform will be judged upon whether health costs have increased or decreased as a proportion of GDP.[/quote]
Don’t you think it would be prudent to allow more time to the public to read all 2000 pages?
On Iraq. We did indeed go to war too fast. So since they did it, it is now OK for your guys to do the same? Again how can you separate the Dems from the Reps?
November 9, 2009 at 10:46 AM in reply to: House crams healthcare bill down the countries throat. #479555Participant[quote=briansd1][quote=sd_matt]
I too love the idea of everyone being covered for cheap.
Do you think the people currently in Congress are anywhere within a light year of being able to actually accomplish this?
Personally I think our first order of business should be to fire a lot of Congress and then move onto health care.
Obama said he could pull all kinds of $$ from Medicare by cleaning up waste, fraud and abuse. I sincerely hope he can. In fact wouldn’t it be better that he actually demonstrate this before moving onto reforming one sixth of our economy. That’s a pretty big chunk of change to possibly gamble away.
Doesn’t the current process bother you at least a little with it’s lack of transparency?[/quote]
I think that the way to cut health care cost is to cover everybody.
Right now, the insured are subsidizing the uninsured.
Over time, as the whole population gets access to primary care, people will be healthier and the costs will come down.
I don’t see any lack of transparency. The bill has been debated in Congress and the representatives voted. Most bills are passed much more quickly.
We went to war in Iraq with hardly any debate at all. It has cost $1 trillion so far.
Providing health care to all our citizens would do much greater good. The cost will be $1 trillion over a decade. But if we can hold down the growth of health costs, then the savings will be much greater.
A decade from now, the success or failure of health care reform will be judged upon whether health costs have increased or decreased as a proportion of GDP.[/quote]
Don’t you think it would be prudent to allow more time to the public to read all 2000 pages?
On Iraq. We did indeed go to war too fast. So since they did it, it is now OK for your guys to do the same? Again how can you separate the Dems from the Reps?
November 9, 2009 at 10:46 AM in reply to: House crams healthcare bill down the countries throat. #479918Participant[quote=briansd1][quote=sd_matt]
I too love the idea of everyone being covered for cheap.
Do you think the people currently in Congress are anywhere within a light year of being able to actually accomplish this?
Personally I think our first order of business should be to fire a lot of Congress and then move onto health care.
Obama said he could pull all kinds of $$ from Medicare by cleaning up waste, fraud and abuse. I sincerely hope he can. In fact wouldn’t it be better that he actually demonstrate this before moving onto reforming one sixth of our economy. That’s a pretty big chunk of change to possibly gamble away.
Doesn’t the current process bother you at least a little with it’s lack of transparency?[/quote]
I think that the way to cut health care cost is to cover everybody.
Right now, the insured are subsidizing the uninsured.
Over time, as the whole population gets access to primary care, people will be healthier and the costs will come down.
I don’t see any lack of transparency. The bill has been debated in Congress and the representatives voted. Most bills are passed much more quickly.
We went to war in Iraq with hardly any debate at all. It has cost $1 trillion so far.
Providing health care to all our citizens would do much greater good. The cost will be $1 trillion over a decade. But if we can hold down the growth of health costs, then the savings will be much greater.
A decade from now, the success or failure of health care reform will be judged upon whether health costs have increased or decreased as a proportion of GDP.[/quote]
Don’t you think it would be prudent to allow more time to the public to read all 2000 pages?
On Iraq. We did indeed go to war too fast. So since they did it, it is now OK for your guys to do the same? Again how can you separate the Dems from the Reps?
November 9, 2009 at 10:46 AM in reply to: House crams healthcare bill down the countries throat. #479999Participant[quote=briansd1][quote=sd_matt]
I too love the idea of everyone being covered for cheap.
Do you think the people currently in Congress are anywhere within a light year of being able to actually accomplish this?
Personally I think our first order of business should be to fire a lot of Congress and then move onto health care.
Obama said he could pull all kinds of $$ from Medicare by cleaning up waste, fraud and abuse. I sincerely hope he can. In fact wouldn’t it be better that he actually demonstrate this before moving onto reforming one sixth of our economy. That’s a pretty big chunk of change to possibly gamble away.
Doesn’t the current process bother you at least a little with it’s lack of transparency?[/quote]
I think that the way to cut health care cost is to cover everybody.
Right now, the insured are subsidizing the uninsured.
Over time, as the whole population gets access to primary care, people will be healthier and the costs will come down.
I don’t see any lack of transparency. The bill has been debated in Congress and the representatives voted. Most bills are passed much more quickly.
We went to war in Iraq with hardly any debate at all. It has cost $1 trillion so far.
Providing health care to all our citizens would do much greater good. The cost will be $1 trillion over a decade. But if we can hold down the growth of health costs, then the savings will be much greater.
A decade from now, the success or failure of health care reform will be judged upon whether health costs have increased or decreased as a proportion of GDP.[/quote]
Don’t you think it would be prudent to allow more time to the public to read all 2000 pages?
On Iraq. We did indeed go to war too fast. So since they did it, it is now OK for your guys to do the same? Again how can you separate the Dems from the Reps?
November 9, 2009 at 10:46 AM in reply to: House crams healthcare bill down the countries throat. #480223Participant[quote=briansd1][quote=sd_matt]
I too love the idea of everyone being covered for cheap.
Do you think the people currently in Congress are anywhere within a light year of being able to actually accomplish this?
Personally I think our first order of business should be to fire a lot of Congress and then move onto health care.
Obama said he could pull all kinds of $$ from Medicare by cleaning up waste, fraud and abuse. I sincerely hope he can. In fact wouldn’t it be better that he actually demonstrate this before moving onto reforming one sixth of our economy. That’s a pretty big chunk of change to possibly gamble away.
Doesn’t the current process bother you at least a little with it’s lack of transparency?[/quote]
I think that the way to cut health care cost is to cover everybody.
Right now, the insured are subsidizing the uninsured.
Over time, as the whole population gets access to primary care, people will be healthier and the costs will come down.
I don’t see any lack of transparency. The bill has been debated in Congress and the representatives voted. Most bills are passed much more quickly.
We went to war in Iraq with hardly any debate at all. It has cost $1 trillion so far.
Providing health care to all our citizens would do much greater good. The cost will be $1 trillion over a decade. But if we can hold down the growth of health costs, then the savings will be much greater.
A decade from now, the success or failure of health care reform will be judged upon whether health costs have increased or decreased as a proportion of GDP.[/quote]
Don’t you think it would be prudent to allow more time to the public to read all 2000 pages?
On Iraq. We did indeed go to war too fast. So since they did it, it is now OK for your guys to do the same? Again how can you separate the Dems from the Reps?
November 8, 2009 at 8:01 PM in reply to: House crams healthcare bill down the countries throat. #479181Participant[quote=briansd1]I didn’t know there were Republicans in North Park 92104. 😉
I think that universal health insurance is good. Everybody should have it.
This should be a first step in getting health-care under control.
Rationing is necessary. Everyone should have basic government guaranteed health coverage. The private sector should pickup the cost beyond basic.
Over time, health care spending should be cut back to take up a much lower portion of GDP.[/quote]
I too love the idea of everyone being covered for cheap.
Do you think the people currently in Congress are anywhere within a light year of being able to actually accomplish this?
Personally I think our first order of business should be to fire a lot of Congress and then move onto health care.
Obama said he could pull all kinds of $$ from Medicare by cleaning up waste, fraud and abuse. I sincerely hope he can. In fact wouldn’t it be better that he actually demonstrate this before moving onto reforming one sixth of our economy. That’s a pretty big chunk of change to possibly gamble away.
Doesn’t the current process bother you at least a little with it’s lack of transparency?
November 8, 2009 at 8:01 PM in reply to: House crams healthcare bill down the countries throat. #479351Participant[quote=briansd1]I didn’t know there were Republicans in North Park 92104. 😉
I think that universal health insurance is good. Everybody should have it.
This should be a first step in getting health-care under control.
Rationing is necessary. Everyone should have basic government guaranteed health coverage. The private sector should pickup the cost beyond basic.
Over time, health care spending should be cut back to take up a much lower portion of GDP.[/quote]
I too love the idea of everyone being covered for cheap.
Do you think the people currently in Congress are anywhere within a light year of being able to actually accomplish this?
Personally I think our first order of business should be to fire a lot of Congress and then move onto health care.
Obama said he could pull all kinds of $$ from Medicare by cleaning up waste, fraud and abuse. I sincerely hope he can. In fact wouldn’t it be better that he actually demonstrate this before moving onto reforming one sixth of our economy. That’s a pretty big chunk of change to possibly gamble away.
Doesn’t the current process bother you at least a little with it’s lack of transparency?
November 8, 2009 at 8:01 PM in reply to: House crams healthcare bill down the countries throat. #479715Participant[quote=briansd1]I didn’t know there were Republicans in North Park 92104. 😉
I think that universal health insurance is good. Everybody should have it.
This should be a first step in getting health-care under control.
Rationing is necessary. Everyone should have basic government guaranteed health coverage. The private sector should pickup the cost beyond basic.
Over time, health care spending should be cut back to take up a much lower portion of GDP.[/quote]
I too love the idea of everyone being covered for cheap.
Do you think the people currently in Congress are anywhere within a light year of being able to actually accomplish this?
Personally I think our first order of business should be to fire a lot of Congress and then move onto health care.
Obama said he could pull all kinds of $$ from Medicare by cleaning up waste, fraud and abuse. I sincerely hope he can. In fact wouldn’t it be better that he actually demonstrate this before moving onto reforming one sixth of our economy. That’s a pretty big chunk of change to possibly gamble away.
Doesn’t the current process bother you at least a little with it’s lack of transparency?
November 8, 2009 at 8:01 PM in reply to: House crams healthcare bill down the countries throat. #479795Participant[quote=briansd1]I didn’t know there were Republicans in North Park 92104. 😉
I think that universal health insurance is good. Everybody should have it.
This should be a first step in getting health-care under control.
Rationing is necessary. Everyone should have basic government guaranteed health coverage. The private sector should pickup the cost beyond basic.
Over time, health care spending should be cut back to take up a much lower portion of GDP.[/quote]
I too love the idea of everyone being covered for cheap.
Do you think the people currently in Congress are anywhere within a light year of being able to actually accomplish this?
Personally I think our first order of business should be to fire a lot of Congress and then move onto health care.
Obama said he could pull all kinds of $$ from Medicare by cleaning up waste, fraud and abuse. I sincerely hope he can. In fact wouldn’t it be better that he actually demonstrate this before moving onto reforming one sixth of our economy. That’s a pretty big chunk of change to possibly gamble away.
Doesn’t the current process bother you at least a little with it’s lack of transparency?
November 8, 2009 at 8:01 PM in reply to: House crams healthcare bill down the countries throat. #480017Participant[quote=briansd1]I didn’t know there were Republicans in North Park 92104. 😉
I think that universal health insurance is good. Everybody should have it.
This should be a first step in getting health-care under control.
Rationing is necessary. Everyone should have basic government guaranteed health coverage. The private sector should pickup the cost beyond basic.
Over time, health care spending should be cut back to take up a much lower portion of GDP.[/quote]
I too love the idea of everyone being covered for cheap.
Do you think the people currently in Congress are anywhere within a light year of being able to actually accomplish this?
Personally I think our first order of business should be to fire a lot of Congress and then move onto health care.
Obama said he could pull all kinds of $$ from Medicare by cleaning up waste, fraud and abuse. I sincerely hope he can. In fact wouldn’t it be better that he actually demonstrate this before moving onto reforming one sixth of our economy. That’s a pretty big chunk of change to possibly gamble away.
Doesn’t the current process bother you at least a little with it’s lack of transparency?
November 8, 2009 at 7:48 PM in reply to: House crams healthcare bill down the countries throat. #479166Participant[quote=fishsticks][quote=sd_matt]What’s the middle ground between the WP survey and Becks? That is probably the most accurate thing we have since all sides are spun.[/quote]
Yes, clearly reality lies somewhere between ABC/Washington Post (professional news organizations who employ professional statisticians) and Glenn Beck (a race-baiting, hyper nationalist, man-child who, like Father Coughlin and other fascists during the 1930s, makes up convenient facts on the fly intended to stir his followers into a furor).[/quote]
Ok and Fox, CNN, NBC, ABC, NPR ect all employ professionals yet come up with different stories. Ya got any ideas?
November 8, 2009 at 7:48 PM in reply to: House crams healthcare bill down the countries throat. #479335Participant[quote=fishsticks][quote=sd_matt]What’s the middle ground between the WP survey and Becks? That is probably the most accurate thing we have since all sides are spun.[/quote]
Yes, clearly reality lies somewhere between ABC/Washington Post (professional news organizations who employ professional statisticians) and Glenn Beck (a race-baiting, hyper nationalist, man-child who, like Father Coughlin and other fascists during the 1930s, makes up convenient facts on the fly intended to stir his followers into a furor).[/quote]
Ok and Fox, CNN, NBC, ABC, NPR ect all employ professionals yet come up with different stories. Ya got any ideas?
November 8, 2009 at 7:48 PM in reply to: House crams healthcare bill down the countries throat. #479702Participant[quote=fishsticks][quote=sd_matt]What’s the middle ground between the WP survey and Becks? That is probably the most accurate thing we have since all sides are spun.[/quote]
Yes, clearly reality lies somewhere between ABC/Washington Post (professional news organizations who employ professional statisticians) and Glenn Beck (a race-baiting, hyper nationalist, man-child who, like Father Coughlin and other fascists during the 1930s, makes up convenient facts on the fly intended to stir his followers into a furor).[/quote]
Ok and Fox, CNN, NBC, ABC, NPR ect all employ professionals yet come up with different stories. Ya got any ideas?
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