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Sounds good Bill… Feel free to address the points I brought up any time.

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Sounds good Bill… Feel free to address the points I brought up any time.

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Sounds good Bill… Feel free to address the points I brought up any time.

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Sounds good Bill… Feel free to address the points I brought up any time.

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Brian I characterize the repubs actions as totally idiotic. You know my stand on taxes. I have posted that I see no way out but to raise them and am willing to pay them (grudgingly) but not with more spending.

It was stupid for them to have the insistence about taxes and stupid for Obama to insist on a deal past the elections.

As for the part about an agreement on future spending, I am not really sure that that was a bad idea. It is folly to think that some calamity will never happen and that may require emergency spending, however absent of some huge unforseen event, I don’t think that is an entirely unreasonable request.

Also to me at least, payment to creditors is in the event of a default is not the governments choice. The treasury makes that decision and would pay the creditors.

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Brian I characterize the repubs actions as totally idiotic. You know my stand on taxes. I have posted that I see no way out but to raise them and am willing to pay them (grudgingly) but not with more spending.

It was stupid for them to have the insistence about taxes and stupid for Obama to insist on a deal past the elections.

As for the part about an agreement on future spending, I am not really sure that that was a bad idea. It is folly to think that some calamity will never happen and that may require emergency spending, however absent of some huge unforseen event, I don’t think that is an entirely unreasonable request.

Also to me at least, payment to creditors is in the event of a default is not the governments choice. The treasury makes that decision and would pay the creditors.

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Brian I characterize the repubs actions as totally idiotic. You know my stand on taxes. I have posted that I see no way out but to raise them and am willing to pay them (grudgingly) but not with more spending.

It was stupid for them to have the insistence about taxes and stupid for Obama to insist on a deal past the elections.

As for the part about an agreement on future spending, I am not really sure that that was a bad idea. It is folly to think that some calamity will never happen and that may require emergency spending, however absent of some huge unforseen event, I don’t think that is an entirely unreasonable request.

Also to me at least, payment to creditors is in the event of a default is not the governments choice. The treasury makes that decision and would pay the creditors.

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Brian I characterize the repubs actions as totally idiotic. You know my stand on taxes. I have posted that I see no way out but to raise them and am willing to pay them (grudgingly) but not with more spending.

It was stupid for them to have the insistence about taxes and stupid for Obama to insist on a deal past the elections.

As for the part about an agreement on future spending, I am not really sure that that was a bad idea. It is folly to think that some calamity will never happen and that may require emergency spending, however absent of some huge unforseen event, I don’t think that is an entirely unreasonable request.

Also to me at least, payment to creditors is in the event of a default is not the governments choice. The treasury makes that decision and would pay the creditors.

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Brian I characterize the repubs actions as totally idiotic. You know my stand on taxes. I have posted that I see no way out but to raise them and am willing to pay them (grudgingly) but not with more spending.

It was stupid for them to have the insistence about taxes and stupid for Obama to insist on a deal past the elections.

As for the part about an agreement on future spending, I am not really sure that that was a bad idea. It is folly to think that some calamity will never happen and that may require emergency spending, however absent of some huge unforseen event, I don’t think that is an entirely unreasonable request.

Also to me at least, payment to creditors is in the event of a default is not the governments choice. The treasury makes that decision and would pay the creditors.

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I think I agree with your entire post. What irked me about that entire mess was the speed at which decisions were made and that so many of the moves were done in the name of averting what was akin to a meteor strike. Paulson just seemed absolutely not interested as things developed and when he did try to do something it just seemed like he wanted to get the hell out of there… Geitner to me has proven to be not much better. Perhaps it was a no win for no matter who would have taken the position.

I agree with you about not knowing the fix and perhaps one not being there. I keep thinking that letting the housing market dump harder was one of them. Maybe nationalizing banks (shudder) would have been another… I don’t know but I think that what we did wasn’t the right way to go. As you noted perhaps is the money was applied in a different manner then we could have seen better results.

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I think I agree with your entire post. What irked me about that entire mess was the speed at which decisions were made and that so many of the moves were done in the name of averting what was akin to a meteor strike. Paulson just seemed absolutely not interested as things developed and when he did try to do something it just seemed like he wanted to get the hell out of there… Geitner to me has proven to be not much better. Perhaps it was a no win for no matter who would have taken the position.

I agree with you about not knowing the fix and perhaps one not being there. I keep thinking that letting the housing market dump harder was one of them. Maybe nationalizing banks (shudder) would have been another… I don’t know but I think that what we did wasn’t the right way to go. As you noted perhaps is the money was applied in a different manner then we could have seen better results.

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I think I agree with your entire post. What irked me about that entire mess was the speed at which decisions were made and that so many of the moves were done in the name of averting what was akin to a meteor strike. Paulson just seemed absolutely not interested as things developed and when he did try to do something it just seemed like he wanted to get the hell out of there… Geitner to me has proven to be not much better. Perhaps it was a no win for no matter who would have taken the position.

I agree with you about not knowing the fix and perhaps one not being there. I keep thinking that letting the housing market dump harder was one of them. Maybe nationalizing banks (shudder) would have been another… I don’t know but I think that what we did wasn’t the right way to go. As you noted perhaps is the money was applied in a different manner then we could have seen better results.

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I think I agree with your entire post. What irked me about that entire mess was the speed at which decisions were made and that so many of the moves were done in the name of averting what was akin to a meteor strike. Paulson just seemed absolutely not interested as things developed and when he did try to do something it just seemed like he wanted to get the hell out of there… Geitner to me has proven to be not much better. Perhaps it was a no win for no matter who would have taken the position.

I agree with you about not knowing the fix and perhaps one not being there. I keep thinking that letting the housing market dump harder was one of them. Maybe nationalizing banks (shudder) would have been another… I don’t know but I think that what we did wasn’t the right way to go. As you noted perhaps is the money was applied in a different manner then we could have seen better results.

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I think I agree with your entire post. What irked me about that entire mess was the speed at which decisions were made and that so many of the moves were done in the name of averting what was akin to a meteor strike. Paulson just seemed absolutely not interested as things developed and when he did try to do something it just seemed like he wanted to get the hell out of there… Geitner to me has proven to be not much better. Perhaps it was a no win for no matter who would have taken the position.

I agree with you about not knowing the fix and perhaps one not being there. I keep thinking that letting the housing market dump harder was one of them. Maybe nationalizing banks (shudder) would have been another… I don’t know but I think that what we did wasn’t the right way to go. As you noted perhaps is the money was applied in a different manner then we could have seen better results.

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You may want to take some lessons about from debate from Brian, at least he keeps it civil.

I’ll stop repeating myself when you care to post an answer.

Did the dems really really really think the republicans were going to not be total assholes about this? Sorry if I am taking a devils advocate point of view that perhaps sometime prior to the November elections one of Obamas cabinet guys could have or now SHOULD have whispered in his ear and said, ya know we could be really f’d next year if we lose the house….

All I am saying is both parties are at fault here but I guess that gets you pretty darn upset.

Oh and I was wrong there was not a supermajority. Thank you for the correction and my mistake for the incorrect implication. Now just lemme know when you want to address the other points.

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