[SD Realtor]

Kind of helps when you have jobs so that people need to go to those transportation hubs to come visit.

As much as everyone hates to hear it, unless you enhance opportunities for corporations to operate in the USA the more jobs will leave our country.

http://www.businessinsider.com/intel-ceo-blasts-obama-administration-says-anti-business-policies-are-killing-the-country-2010-8

The link above blasts democrats but in all honesty both parties have succeeded in alienating business.

Then again we can invest all this money in roads and railways so all the rich foreign businessmen can come and take the train from the airport.

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Getting to the point of the original post, I agree with Rich. Letting the market operate unconstrained, or in that long lost terminology, a free market, while desired by us all, is truly a pipe dream.

[SD Realtor]

Kind of helps when you have jobs so that people need to go to those transportation hubs to come visit.

As much as everyone hates to hear it, unless you enhance opportunities for corporations to operate in the USA the more jobs will leave our country.

http://www.businessinsider.com/intel-ceo-blasts-obama-administration-says-anti-business-policies-are-killing-the-country-2010-8

The link above blasts democrats but in all honesty both parties have succeeded in alienating business.

Then again we can invest all this money in roads and railways so all the rich foreign businessmen can come and take the train from the airport.

***********

Getting to the point of the original post, I agree with Rich. Letting the market operate unconstrained, or in that long lost terminology, a free market, while desired by us all, is truly a pipe dream.

[SD Realtor]

Kind of helps when you have jobs so that people need to go to those transportation hubs to come visit.

As much as everyone hates to hear it, unless you enhance opportunities for corporations to operate in the USA the more jobs will leave our country.

http://www.businessinsider.com/intel-ceo-blasts-obama-administration-says-anti-business-policies-are-killing-the-country-2010-8

The link above blasts democrats but in all honesty both parties have succeeded in alienating business.

Then again we can invest all this money in roads and railways so all the rich foreign businessmen can come and take the train from the airport.

***********

Getting to the point of the original post, I agree with Rich. Letting the market operate unconstrained, or in that long lost terminology, a free market, while desired by us all, is truly a pipe dream.

[SD Realtor]

Kind of helps when you have jobs so that people need to go to those transportation hubs to come visit.

As much as everyone hates to hear it, unless you enhance opportunities for corporations to operate in the USA the more jobs will leave our country.

http://www.businessinsider.com/intel-ceo-blasts-obama-administration-says-anti-business-policies-are-killing-the-country-2010-8

The link above blasts democrats but in all honesty both parties have succeeded in alienating business.

Then again we can invest all this money in roads and railways so all the rich foreign businessmen can come and take the train from the airport.

***********

Getting to the point of the original post, I agree with Rich. Letting the market operate unconstrained, or in that long lost terminology, a free market, while desired by us all, is truly a pipe dream.

[SD Realtor]

Seems like threads like this recur every year or so. I have stayed out of this one because it is no use arguing. Some people do find value in having representation and some do not. Obviously individual levels of real estate knowledge vary with each buyer.

One thing that those who argue against the usefulness of a buyers agent do not understand is the simple numbers game with the experiences. Each of you may have bought a home or two without an agent. However the simple number of transactions a good agent is involved in tend to give that agent more experience overall in the process. Could that experience have helped you? Maybe and maybe not? I have recently been involved in a renovation and everything I watched the contractors do, I know I could have done. However it would have taken me awhile longer and I would have screwed up something in the process and had to redo it. I tried that with the sprinkler system, I did it, I screwed some stuff out, tore it out and fixed it and now it works. What took me about 4 days would have taken and expert with a crew 1 day. It is done though. Again, I think agency is devalued because the skill level of many agents is subpar at best.

We all know real estate is not brain surgery. That is not the argument here. Also as many of you hope for a change in the establishment of how real estate transactions occur, I don’t really see that happening. Maybe it will, but to much money to be lost by the rich guys.

From my perspective of reading the threads it seems like those who have had success without an agent feel that calling for an end to agency is correct for EVERYONE and I don’t see it that way. I think the real problem is that most agents are indeed boobs. As an electrical engineer agency is like childs play from an intelligence standpoint however the skills needed to be a good agent are vastly underated. They are two-fold and involve people skills and experience. I will say for sure sure sure that you experience level including the number or transactions and the number of agents you work with will help. I know of at least 3 transactions where I got my buyers offers accepted because I had worked with the listing agents before AND I was able to advise my clients on what they needed to do to get over the top in the multiple counters they were in. The same is true for identifying which agents suck,

To me, that does add value but to many of you it does not and that is okay by me. I am not going to say your purchases will or will not work out because THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE to prognosticate and I tend to try to follow logic.

So I guess my answer is that it is all in the eye of the beholder, and every case varies. As far as the 6% stuff goes that is all crap. Any poster who whines about that has not done any homework at all. There are plenty of options out there for both buyers and sellers to save on commissions and there have been these options for quite a long time. Conversely, as many hoped these would become mainstream vehicles for the market, they have not and I doubt they will. However SOME OF THEM are great opportunities for people to save money and still get top notch service.

[SD Realtor]

Seems like threads like this recur every year or so. I have stayed out of this one because it is no use arguing. Some people do find value in having representation and some do not. Obviously individual levels of real estate knowledge vary with each buyer.

One thing that those who argue against the usefulness of a buyers agent do not understand is the simple numbers game with the experiences. Each of you may have bought a home or two without an agent. However the simple number of transactions a good agent is involved in tend to give that agent more experience overall in the process. Could that experience have helped you? Maybe and maybe not? I have recently been involved in a renovation and everything I watched the contractors do, I know I could have done. However it would have taken me awhile longer and I would have screwed up something in the process and had to redo it. I tried that with the sprinkler system, I did it, I screwed some stuff out, tore it out and fixed it and now it works. What took me about 4 days would have taken and expert with a crew 1 day. It is done though. Again, I think agency is devalued because the skill level of many agents is subpar at best.

We all know real estate is not brain surgery. That is not the argument here. Also as many of you hope for a change in the establishment of how real estate transactions occur, I don’t really see that happening. Maybe it will, but to much money to be lost by the rich guys.

From my perspective of reading the threads it seems like those who have had success without an agent feel that calling for an end to agency is correct for EVERYONE and I don’t see it that way. I think the real problem is that most agents are indeed boobs. As an electrical engineer agency is like childs play from an intelligence standpoint however the skills needed to be a good agent are vastly underated. They are two-fold and involve people skills and experience. I will say for sure sure sure that you experience level including the number or transactions and the number of agents you work with will help. I know of at least 3 transactions where I got my buyers offers accepted because I had worked with the listing agents before AND I was able to advise my clients on what they needed to do to get over the top in the multiple counters they were in. The same is true for identifying which agents suck,

To me, that does add value but to many of you it does not and that is okay by me. I am not going to say your purchases will or will not work out because THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE to prognosticate and I tend to try to follow logic.

So I guess my answer is that it is all in the eye of the beholder, and every case varies. As far as the 6% stuff goes that is all crap. Any poster who whines about that has not done any homework at all. There are plenty of options out there for both buyers and sellers to save on commissions and there have been these options for quite a long time. Conversely, as many hoped these would become mainstream vehicles for the market, they have not and I doubt they will. However SOME OF THEM are great opportunities for people to save money and still get top notch service.

[SD Realtor]

Seems like threads like this recur every year or so. I have stayed out of this one because it is no use arguing. Some people do find value in having representation and some do not. Obviously individual levels of real estate knowledge vary with each buyer.

One thing that those who argue against the usefulness of a buyers agent do not understand is the simple numbers game with the experiences. Each of you may have bought a home or two without an agent. However the simple number of transactions a good agent is involved in tend to give that agent more experience overall in the process. Could that experience have helped you? Maybe and maybe not? I have recently been involved in a renovation and everything I watched the contractors do, I know I could have done. However it would have taken me awhile longer and I would have screwed up something in the process and had to redo it. I tried that with the sprinkler system, I did it, I screwed some stuff out, tore it out and fixed it and now it works. What took me about 4 days would have taken and expert with a crew 1 day. It is done though. Again, I think agency is devalued because the skill level of many agents is subpar at best.

We all know real estate is not brain surgery. That is not the argument here. Also as many of you hope for a change in the establishment of how real estate transactions occur, I don’t really see that happening. Maybe it will, but to much money to be lost by the rich guys.

From my perspective of reading the threads it seems like those who have had success without an agent feel that calling for an end to agency is correct for EVERYONE and I don’t see it that way. I think the real problem is that most agents are indeed boobs. As an electrical engineer agency is like childs play from an intelligence standpoint however the skills needed to be a good agent are vastly underated. They are two-fold and involve people skills and experience. I will say for sure sure sure that you experience level including the number or transactions and the number of agents you work with will help. I know of at least 3 transactions where I got my buyers offers accepted because I had worked with the listing agents before AND I was able to advise my clients on what they needed to do to get over the top in the multiple counters they were in. The same is true for identifying which agents suck,

To me, that does add value but to many of you it does not and that is okay by me. I am not going to say your purchases will or will not work out because THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE to prognosticate and I tend to try to follow logic.

So I guess my answer is that it is all in the eye of the beholder, and every case varies. As far as the 6% stuff goes that is all crap. Any poster who whines about that has not done any homework at all. There are plenty of options out there for both buyers and sellers to save on commissions and there have been these options for quite a long time. Conversely, as many hoped these would become mainstream vehicles for the market, they have not and I doubt they will. However SOME OF THEM are great opportunities for people to save money and still get top notch service.

[SD Realtor]

Seems like threads like this recur every year or so. I have stayed out of this one because it is no use arguing. Some people do find value in having representation and some do not. Obviously individual levels of real estate knowledge vary with each buyer.

One thing that those who argue against the usefulness of a buyers agent do not understand is the simple numbers game with the experiences. Each of you may have bought a home or two without an agent. However the simple number of transactions a good agent is involved in tend to give that agent more experience overall in the process. Could that experience have helped you? Maybe and maybe not? I have recently been involved in a renovation and everything I watched the contractors do, I know I could have done. However it would have taken me awhile longer and I would have screwed up something in the process and had to redo it. I tried that with the sprinkler system, I did it, I screwed some stuff out, tore it out and fixed it and now it works. What took me about 4 days would have taken and expert with a crew 1 day. It is done though. Again, I think agency is devalued because the skill level of many agents is subpar at best.

We all know real estate is not brain surgery. That is not the argument here. Also as many of you hope for a change in the establishment of how real estate transactions occur, I don’t really see that happening. Maybe it will, but to much money to be lost by the rich guys.

From my perspective of reading the threads it seems like those who have had success without an agent feel that calling for an end to agency is correct for EVERYONE and I don’t see it that way. I think the real problem is that most agents are indeed boobs. As an electrical engineer agency is like childs play from an intelligence standpoint however the skills needed to be a good agent are vastly underated. They are two-fold and involve people skills and experience. I will say for sure sure sure that you experience level including the number or transactions and the number of agents you work with will help. I know of at least 3 transactions where I got my buyers offers accepted because I had worked with the listing agents before AND I was able to advise my clients on what they needed to do to get over the top in the multiple counters they were in. The same is true for identifying which agents suck,

To me, that does add value but to many of you it does not and that is okay by me. I am not going to say your purchases will or will not work out because THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE to prognosticate and I tend to try to follow logic.

So I guess my answer is that it is all in the eye of the beholder, and every case varies. As far as the 6% stuff goes that is all crap. Any poster who whines about that has not done any homework at all. There are plenty of options out there for both buyers and sellers to save on commissions and there have been these options for quite a long time. Conversely, as many hoped these would become mainstream vehicles for the market, they have not and I doubt they will. However SOME OF THEM are great opportunities for people to save money and still get top notch service.

[SD Realtor]

Seems like threads like this recur every year or so. I have stayed out of this one because it is no use arguing. Some people do find value in having representation and some do not. Obviously individual levels of real estate knowledge vary with each buyer.

One thing that those who argue against the usefulness of a buyers agent do not understand is the simple numbers game with the experiences. Each of you may have bought a home or two without an agent. However the simple number of transactions a good agent is involved in tend to give that agent more experience overall in the process. Could that experience have helped you? Maybe and maybe not? I have recently been involved in a renovation and everything I watched the contractors do, I know I could have done. However it would have taken me awhile longer and I would have screwed up something in the process and had to redo it. I tried that with the sprinkler system, I did it, I screwed some stuff out, tore it out and fixed it and now it works. What took me about 4 days would have taken and expert with a crew 1 day. It is done though. Again, I think agency is devalued because the skill level of many agents is subpar at best.

We all know real estate is not brain surgery. That is not the argument here. Also as many of you hope for a change in the establishment of how real estate transactions occur, I don’t really see that happening. Maybe it will, but to much money to be lost by the rich guys.

From my perspective of reading the threads it seems like those who have had success without an agent feel that calling for an end to agency is correct for EVERYONE and I don’t see it that way. I think the real problem is that most agents are indeed boobs. As an electrical engineer agency is like childs play from an intelligence standpoint however the skills needed to be a good agent are vastly underated. They are two-fold and involve people skills and experience. I will say for sure sure sure that you experience level including the number or transactions and the number of agents you work with will help. I know of at least 3 transactions where I got my buyers offers accepted because I had worked with the listing agents before AND I was able to advise my clients on what they needed to do to get over the top in the multiple counters they were in. The same is true for identifying which agents suck,

To me, that does add value but to many of you it does not and that is okay by me. I am not going to say your purchases will or will not work out because THAT IS IMPOSSIBLE to prognosticate and I tend to try to follow logic.

So I guess my answer is that it is all in the eye of the beholder, and every case varies. As far as the 6% stuff goes that is all crap. Any poster who whines about that has not done any homework at all. There are plenty of options out there for both buyers and sellers to save on commissions and there have been these options for quite a long time. Conversely, as many hoped these would become mainstream vehicles for the market, they have not and I doubt they will. However SOME OF THEM are great opportunities for people to save money and still get top notch service.

[SD Realtor]

I wasnt talking about Rand Paul, I was talking about Ron Paul.

As it is the prevailing mentality is well everyone sucks but these guys suck a little bit less so I will vote for them then we are truly doomed to have no real change and we get to discuss how we like our presidents remodel of the office.

Sounds fantastic.

[SD Realtor]

I wasnt talking about Rand Paul, I was talking about Ron Paul.

As it is the prevailing mentality is well everyone sucks but these guys suck a little bit less so I will vote for them then we are truly doomed to have no real change and we get to discuss how we like our presidents remodel of the office.

Sounds fantastic.

[SD Realtor]

I wasnt talking about Rand Paul, I was talking about Ron Paul.

As it is the prevailing mentality is well everyone sucks but these guys suck a little bit less so I will vote for them then we are truly doomed to have no real change and we get to discuss how we like our presidents remodel of the office.

Sounds fantastic.

[SD Realtor]

I wasnt talking about Rand Paul, I was talking about Ron Paul.

As it is the prevailing mentality is well everyone sucks but these guys suck a little bit less so I will vote for them then we are truly doomed to have no real change and we get to discuss how we like our presidents remodel of the office.

Sounds fantastic.

[SD Realtor]

I wasnt talking about Rand Paul, I was talking about Ron Paul.

As it is the prevailing mentality is well everyone sucks but these guys suck a little bit less so I will vote for them then we are truly doomed to have no real change and we get to discuss how we like our presidents remodel of the office.

Sounds fantastic.

[SD Realtor]

That is the thing. I am not democrat or republican but I marvel at those who defend each party simply because they think that this is the best we can do. SK you seem to be plenty satisfied with guys like Frank and Dodd and others like them. It doesn’t matter to me which party they belong to. I woul dpresume if Frank was not a democrat you guys would be all over him.

No Fannie and Freddie are not the reasons for the crash.

However this is what it all boils down to:

Quote from CAR:

“Everybody in power knew, and they knew exactly how this game was going to end (govt bailouts which would result in even more wealth for themselves, while the taxpayers and J6 would be screwed for life).”

So you are going to put a burden of me going on to find the hard evidence of this. They all knew. Frank knew, republicans knew, democrats knew, Roubini knew, they all did. The entire system is so horribly corrupt with lobby and greed that it is a joke. The really sad thing is people who are satisfied with it, who defend those who participated in it, and continue to support those criminals.

I do not.

If it means throwing away my vote for guys like Paul and other fringe types so be it.

You continue your defense for those who WERE IN POSITIONS OF AUTHORITY while it all went down.

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