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ParticipantHere is something interesting…
Eric Harris age 17 (first on Zoloft then Luvox) and Dylan Klebold aged 18 (Columbine school shooting in Littleton, Colorado), killed 12 students and 1 teacher, and wounded 23 others, before killing themselves. Klebold’s medical records have never been made available to the public.
Jeff Weise, age 16, had been prescribed 60 mg/day of Prozac (three times the average starting dose for adults!) when he shot his grandfather, his grandfather’s girlfriend and many fellow students at Red Lake, Minnesota. He then shot himself. 10 dead, 12 wounded.
Cory Baadsgaard, age 16, Wahluke (Washington state) High School, was on Paxil (which caused him to have hallucinations) when he took a rifle to his high school and held 23 classmates hostage. He has no memory of the event.
Chris Fetters, age 13, killed his favorite aunt while taking Prozac.
Christopher Pittman, age 12, murdered both his grandparents while taking Zoloft.
Mathew Miller, age 13, hung himself in his bedroom closet after taking Zoloft for 6 days.
Kip Kinkel, age 15, (on Prozac and Ritalin) shot his parents while they slept then went to school and opened fire killing 2 classmates and injuring 22 shortly after beginning Prozac treatment.
Luke Woodham, age 16 (Prozac) killed his mother and then killed two students, wounding six others.
A boy in Pocatello, ID (Zoloft) in 1998 had a Zoloft-induced seizure that caused an armed stand off at his school.
Michael Carneal (Ritalin), age 14, opened fire on students at a high school prayer meeting in West Paducah, Kentucky. Three teenagers were killed, five others were wounded..
A young man in Huntsville, Alabama (Ritalin) went psychotic chopping up his parents with an ax and also killing one sibling and almost murdering another.
Andrew Golden, age 11, (Ritalin) and Mitchell Johnson, aged 14, (Ritalin) shot 15 people, killing four students, one teacher, and wounding 10 others.
TJ Solomon, age 15, (Ritalin) high school student in Conyers, Georgia opened fire on and wounded six of his class mates.
Rod Mathews, age 14, (Ritalin) beat a classmate to death with a bat.
James Wilson, age 19, (various psychiatric drugs) from Breenwood, South Carolina, took a .22 caliber revolver into an elementary school killing two young girls, and wounding seven other children and two teachers.
Elizabeth Bush, age 13, (Paxil) was responsible for a school shooting in Pennsylvania
Jason Hoffman (Effexor and Celexa) – school shooting in El Cajon, California
Jarred Viktor, age 15, (Paxil), after five days on Paxil he stabbed his grandmother 61 times.
Chris Shanahan, age 15 (Paxil) in Rigby, ID who out of the blue killed a woman.
Jeff Franklin (Prozac and Ritalin), Huntsville, AL, killed his parents as they came home from work using a sledge hammer, hatchet, butcher knife and mechanic’s file, then attacked his younger brothers and sister.
Neal Furrow (Prozac) in LA Jewish school shooting reported to have been court-ordered to be on Prozac along with several other medications.
Kevin Rider, age 14, was withdrawing from Prozac when he died from a gunshot wound to his head. Initially it was ruled a suicide, but two years later, the investigation into his death was opened as a possible homicide. The prime suspect, also age 14, had been taking Zoloft and other SSRI antidepressants.
Alex Kim, age 13, hung himself shortly after his Lexapro prescription had been doubled.
Diane Routhier was prescribed Welbutrin for gallstone problems. Six days later, after suffering many adverse effects of the drug, she shot herself.
Billy Willkomm, an accomplished wrestler and a University of Florida student, was prescribed Prozac at the age of 17. His family found him dead of suicide – hanging from a tall ladder at the family’s Gulf Shore Boulevard home in July 2002.
Kara Jaye Anne Fuller-Otter, age 12, was on Paxil when she hung herself from a hook in her closet. Kara’s parents said “…. the damn doctor wouldn’t take her off it and I asked him to when we went in on the second visit. I told him I thought she was having some sort of reaction to Paxil…”)
Gareth Christian, Vancouver, age 18, was on Paxil when he committed suicide in 2002,
(Gareth’s father could not accept his son’s death and killed himself.)Julie Woodward, age 17, was on Zoloft when she hung herself in her family’s detached garage.
Matthew Miller was 13 when he saw a psychiatrist because he was having difficulty at school. The psychiatrist gave him samples of Zoloft. Seven days later his mother found him dead, hanging by a belt from a laundry hook in his closet.
Kurt Danysh, age 18, and on Prozac, killed his father with a shotgun. He is now behind prison bars, and writes letters, trying to warn the world that SSRI drugs can kill.
Woody ____, age 37, committed suicide while in his 5th week of taking Zoloft. Shortly before his death his physician suggested doubling the dose of the drug. He had seen his physician only for insomnia. He had never been depressed, nor did he have any history of any mental illness symptoms.
A boy from Houston, age 10, shot and killed his father after his Prozac dosage was increased.
Hammad Memon, age 15, shot and killed a fellow middle school student. He had been diagnosed with ADHD and depression and was taking Zoloft and “other drugs for the conditions.”
Matti Saari, a 22-year-old culinary student, shot and killed 9 students and a teacher, and wounded another student, before killing himself. Saari was taking an SSRI and a benzodiazapine.
Steven Kazmierczak, age 27, shot and killed five people and wounded 21 others before killing himself in a Northern Illinois University auditorium. According to his girlfriend, he had recently been taking Prozac, Xanax and Ambien. Toxicology results showed that he still had trace amounts of Xanax in his system.
Finnish gunman Pekka-Eric Auvinen, age 18, had been taking antidepressants before he killed eight people and wounded a dozen more at Jokela High School – then he committed suicide.
Asa Coon from Cleveland, age 14, shot and wounded four before taking his own life. Court records show Coon was on Trazodone.Jon Romano, age 16, on medication for depression, fired a shotgun at a teacher in his
New York high school.Missing from list… 3 of 4 known to have taken these same meds….
What drugs was Jared Lee Loughner on, age 21…… killed 6 people and injuring 14 others in Tuscon, Az
What drugs was James Eagan Holmes on, age 24….. killed 12 people and injuring 59 others in Aurora Colorado
What drugs was Jacob Tyler Roberts on, age 22, killed 2 injured 1, Clackamas Or
What drugs was Adam Peter Lanza on, age 20, Killed 26 and wounded 2 in Newtown Ct
Roberts is the only one that I haven’t heard about being on drugs of some kind.SD Realtor
ParticipantThe nice thing about that is that only owner occupant offers are considered in the first 30 days. Investors cannot make an offer unless the home is still available after 30 days on the market.
SD Realtor
ParticipantI think it will sell pretty fast at or above sales price.
SD Realtor
ParticipantThe listing agent on the MLS expired listing for 13127 Decant said the listing was expired and has not been relisted and does not have any recollection of talking to anyone about it nor has it ever been relisted. She just called me back and said that someone had called her but that she told the person it was expired and not active. Not sure what to tell you.
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ParticipantI cannot say. There is a trustee deed recorded 7/21/08. The transfer was between cal west recon and the buyer was Residential Funding Co LLc. The amount was 880,951. Then there was a corporate grant deed in November of 2008 to National City Mortgage. A week later there was a grant deed to the first buyer for 786k.
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ParticipantJust to make sure. You spoke to the agent and the agent said the listing is Active on the MLS and the address is that Decant address. The same agent for the expired listing at 13127 Decant.
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ParticipantActually the home first sold at trustee sale for 880k in 2008. It was then purchased by a private party for 786k in late 2008. That party then lost the home to foreclosure.
As for the 80k…. well imagine if the guy that bought the home in late 2008 never made a payment on the home. He bought in in November of 2008 and the first notice of default is in September of 2010 for 74k! So yeah he could very well of bought the home and essentially not paid a cent, not paid property taxes, and pretty much hung out until he finally got booted as the trustee sale was end of August 2012.
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Participantummm okay.
However in this instance you were specific to name the tea party. In this present day the tea party as you referenced is a movement that was recently formed, not the original tea party. I just think it is interesting that you imagined the murderers in Boston could have come from a group that has no history of that at all, and lumped the tea party with other groups that have decades of experience with terrorism and murders.
To my knowledge the tea party never has committed a single terrorist act in the name of constitutional justification.
Yet it seems interesting that they are characterized by opponents, and even hoped to be that sort of group.
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ParticipantInteresting you imagine this to be a tea partier.
So there are instances of tea partiers killing people?
SD Realtor
ParticipantHmmm…if you want to pm me her contact info, I will call her. The address as you wrote it is not on the Sandicor MLS.
SD Realtor
ParticipantTough call to make. I very much understand that it is important to not release important information until the guys are caught. I am very skeptical of what has been released, and presume it is a small fraction of the real story.
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ParticipantDon’t know what to tell you. Did not see it as an active listing either, only as expired like you did. As much as the market is on fire right now they are on crack if they think they will get that much for that home. When an agent takes a listing they can get an exception and not post it on the MLS but the seller must know and authorize that, which is a stupid thing to do. Call the listing agent again and ask them why the home is not posted on the MLS.
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Participant“This makes sense in an opposite universe. Not the one I live in.”
Clearly you need to watch more Seinfeld reruns.
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ParticipantI am not a huge anti GMO but it just seems like it is a provision that serves no good to the general public. It is simply a benefit for the author and other like corporates. Why have the clause at all?
Pretty much because it safeguards Monsanto from something like what happened with the Alfalfa case many years back.
The thing that is kind of a drag is what you eluded to, “it is non regulated it needs regulation”. Now from my posts you could determine I am very much an anti govt, anti regulation type. Which is true. However in this particular case, it kind of seems to me that we are kind of going, well go ahead plant it, and if it is fcked up then the SofAG can regulate it. However if someone files a lawsuit because they found it was fcked up, then no dice.
It just seems… like if you can get the SoAG on board, then you can do whatever you like.
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