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If we are talking UC, and in-state tuition, AN then I don’t think that’s *that* difficult – some ways are like those that BG has mentioned. They have to be driven, savvy, and responsible. There is a lot of discretionary money spent unwisely on living expenses and the kids need to learn how to make sacrifices, be responsible and live under their means. That’s what I meant to encourage. If they are poor, they know how already. Otherwise, they should be allowed to borrow at higher rate – to pay for that privilege. BTW, nobody is entitled to realization of full potential, or to a good college. If they are poor they are more likely to get grants and income-based aid or waivers.

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[quote=AN][quote=Scarlett]Then how about limiting the loan amount strictly to tuition+books – something that’s clearly quantifiable and justfied by receipts etc.? Let the students figure out how to pay for the living expenses. Maybe that would force reconsidering saving for living expenses, and also housing and location of the college.[/quote]
So, what you’re saying then is only well off family should have the oportunity to go to good schools.[/quote]

I am not saying that. One can postpone going to college ( or at least the last 2 years) and save money working while living at home. Or attend a college in town or state. Encourage real penny-pinching and responsibility for students. Work jobs while attending college. Family can help with living expenses.

Hell you can make the living expenses a loan that’s with much higher rate than student loans. There are ways. So one is more careful when borrowing for living expenses, that’s all I am saying.

But it is true that only well off families can afford to pay nowadays for Ivy League schools, otherwise it will be dumb to get a quarter mil loan just for tuition.

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[quote=AN][quote=Scarlett]Then how about limiting the loan amount strictly to tuition+books – something that’s clearly quantifiable and justfied by receipts etc.? Let the students figure out how to pay for the living expenses. Maybe that would force reconsidering saving for living expenses, and also housing and location of the college.[/quote]
So, what you’re saying then is only well off family should have the oportunity to go to good schools.[/quote]

I am not saying that. One can postpone going to college ( or at least the last 2 years) and save money working while living at home. Or attend a college in town or state. Encourage real penny-pinching and responsibility for students. Work jobs while attending college. Family can help with living expenses.

Hell you can make the living expenses a loan that’s with much higher rate than student loans. There are ways. So one is more careful when borrowing for living expenses, that’s all I am saying.

But it is true that only well off families can afford to pay nowadays for Ivy League schools, otherwise it will be dumb to get a quarter mil loan just for tuition.

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[quote=AN][quote=Scarlett]Then how about limiting the loan amount strictly to tuition+books – something that’s clearly quantifiable and justfied by receipts etc.? Let the students figure out how to pay for the living expenses. Maybe that would force reconsidering saving for living expenses, and also housing and location of the college.[/quote]
So, what you’re saying then is only well off family should have the oportunity to go to good schools.[/quote]

I am not saying that. One can postpone going to college ( or at least the last 2 years) and save money working while living at home. Or attend a college in town or state. Encourage real penny-pinching and responsibility for students. Work jobs while attending college. Family can help with living expenses.

Hell you can make the living expenses a loan that’s with much higher rate than student loans. There are ways. So one is more careful when borrowing for living expenses, that’s all I am saying.

But it is true that only well off families can afford to pay nowadays for Ivy League schools, otherwise it will be dumb to get a quarter mil loan just for tuition.

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[quote=AN][quote=Scarlett]Then how about limiting the loan amount strictly to tuition+books – something that’s clearly quantifiable and justfied by receipts etc.? Let the students figure out how to pay for the living expenses. Maybe that would force reconsidering saving for living expenses, and also housing and location of the college.[/quote]
So, what you’re saying then is only well off family should have the oportunity to go to good schools.[/quote]

I am not saying that. One can postpone going to college ( or at least the last 2 years) and save money working while living at home. Or attend a college in town or state. Encourage real penny-pinching and responsibility for students. Work jobs while attending college. Family can help with living expenses.

Hell you can make the living expenses a loan that’s with much higher rate than student loans. There are ways. So one is more careful when borrowing for living expenses, that’s all I am saying.

But it is true that only well off families can afford to pay nowadays for Ivy League schools, otherwise it will be dumb to get a quarter mil loan just for tuition.

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[quote=AN][quote=Scarlett]Then how about limiting the loan amount strictly to tuition+books – something that’s clearly quantifiable and justfied by receipts etc.? Let the students figure out how to pay for the living expenses. Maybe that would force reconsidering saving for living expenses, and also housing and location of the college.[/quote]
So, what you’re saying then is only well off family should have the oportunity to go to good schools.[/quote]

I am not saying that. One can postpone going to college ( or at least the last 2 years) and save money working while living at home. Or attend a college in town or state. Encourage real penny-pinching and responsibility for students. Work jobs while attending college. Family can help with living expenses.

Hell you can make the living expenses a loan that’s with much higher rate than student loans. There are ways. So one is more careful when borrowing for living expenses, that’s all I am saying.

But it is true that only well off families can afford to pay nowadays for Ivy League schools, otherwise it will be dumb to get a quarter mil loan just for tuition.

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Today on the radio they said UC universities can not afford to accept California residents because they make more money accepting “out of state” students or “foreign” students.

– It was a comment to the OP article.

Is that so? California is broke I know.

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Today on the radio they said UC universities can not afford to accept California residents because they make more money accepting “out of state” students or “foreign” students.

– It was a comment to the OP article.

Is that so? California is broke I know.

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Today on the radio they said UC universities can not afford to accept California residents because they make more money accepting “out of state” students or “foreign” students.

– It was a comment to the OP article.

Is that so? California is broke I know.

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Today on the radio they said UC universities can not afford to accept California residents because they make more money accepting “out of state” students or “foreign” students.

– It was a comment to the OP article.

Is that so? California is broke I know.

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Today on the radio they said UC universities can not afford to accept California residents because they make more money accepting “out of state” students or “foreign” students.

– It was a comment to the OP article.

Is that so? California is broke I know.

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Then how about limiting the loan amount strictly to tuition+books – something that’s clearly quantifiable and justfied by receipts etc.? Let the students figure out how to pay for the living expenses. Maybe that would force reconsidering saving for living expenses, and also housing and location of the college.

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Then how about limiting the loan amount strictly to tuition+books – something that’s clearly quantifiable and justfied by receipts etc.? Let the students figure out how to pay for the living expenses. Maybe that would force reconsidering saving for living expenses, and also housing and location of the college.

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Then how about limiting the loan amount strictly to tuition+books – something that’s clearly quantifiable and justfied by receipts etc.? Let the students figure out how to pay for the living expenses. Maybe that would force reconsidering saving for living expenses, and also housing and location of the college.

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Then how about limiting the loan amount strictly to tuition+books – something that’s clearly quantifiable and justfied by receipts etc.? Let the students figure out how to pay for the living expenses. Maybe that would force reconsidering saving for living expenses, and also housing and location of the college.

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