[Ricechex]

[quote=partypup]Will this mean that you can’t get your hands on a bag of rice in the event of a collapse? Of course not. But you’ll be fighting with other hungry and impatient folks at Ralphs who want the same thing, and the rice is going to be a LOT more expensive. Do you like crowds, Breezy? [/quote]

Breeze, seriously, have you ever shopped at the Albertsons in City Heights? It is really chaotic EVERY day. The workers refer to it as “the jungle.” People already live like this, and they can still access food. Once I watched a guy walk out of the store with several bags of food, and the workers were running after him yelling that he was a thief. Ummm, that’s it, nothing else happenned. I live in North Park, but shop in Clairemont because the chaos, disruption, disrespect is too unpleasant.

City Heights is the ghetto, but when push comes to shove, even the fabulous groceries in Temecula (I love them so!) will go ghetto when crisis arises. Don’t think it won’t affect the suburbs, it will actually be worse, because ghetto residents are already used to living in perpetual crisis, but suburbia won’t know how to cope. They will be in a panic and buying up the store, and they will not be deterred. Sheesh, people get trampled to death on Black Friday. And, that is just for a sale on some item they don’t really need.

So, yes, you will be fighting with a soccer mom’s husband over a can of soup. Obama won’t help you. Better safe than sorry.

[Ricechex]

Thanks for the links Partypup and Zeitgeist.

The Mormons have this process highly specialized. I have a Mormon friend that offered to take me to their packing facility and get as much as I want. She says the food tastes really good too.

I am still trying to imagine what things could be like. Will we be sitting in our homes without electricity and eating our dehydrated food for a year? Kind of reminds of living off of Top Ramen in college. What will we do all day?

And if there is only enough water to drink, then we won’t be able to shower, so we will develop horrible gross skin conditions as seen on some of the homeless.

I cannot imagine it will all shut down at once…it will be more a gradual process, like Al Gore’s description of the frog in the bunsen burner. The heat keeps getting turned up and we get cooked.

[Ricechex]

Thanks for the links Partypup and Zeitgeist.

The Mormons have this process highly specialized. I have a Mormon friend that offered to take me to their packing facility and get as much as I want. She says the food tastes really good too.

I am still trying to imagine what things could be like. Will we be sitting in our homes without electricity and eating our dehydrated food for a year? Kind of reminds of living off of Top Ramen in college. What will we do all day?

And if there is only enough water to drink, then we won’t be able to shower, so we will develop horrible gross skin conditions as seen on some of the homeless.

I cannot imagine it will all shut down at once…it will be more a gradual process, like Al Gore’s description of the frog in the bunsen burner. The heat keeps getting turned up and we get cooked.

[Ricechex]

Thanks for the links Partypup and Zeitgeist.

The Mormons have this process highly specialized. I have a Mormon friend that offered to take me to their packing facility and get as much as I want. She says the food tastes really good too.

I am still trying to imagine what things could be like. Will we be sitting in our homes without electricity and eating our dehydrated food for a year? Kind of reminds of living off of Top Ramen in college. What will we do all day?

And if there is only enough water to drink, then we won’t be able to shower, so we will develop horrible gross skin conditions as seen on some of the homeless.

I cannot imagine it will all shut down at once…it will be more a gradual process, like Al Gore’s description of the frog in the bunsen burner. The heat keeps getting turned up and we get cooked.

[Ricechex]

Thanks for the links Partypup and Zeitgeist.

The Mormons have this process highly specialized. I have a Mormon friend that offered to take me to their packing facility and get as much as I want. She says the food tastes really good too.

I am still trying to imagine what things could be like. Will we be sitting in our homes without electricity and eating our dehydrated food for a year? Kind of reminds of living off of Top Ramen in college. What will we do all day?

And if there is only enough water to drink, then we won’t be able to shower, so we will develop horrible gross skin conditions as seen on some of the homeless.

I cannot imagine it will all shut down at once…it will be more a gradual process, like Al Gore’s description of the frog in the bunsen burner. The heat keeps getting turned up and we get cooked.

[Ricechex]

Thanks for the links Partypup and Zeitgeist.

The Mormons have this process highly specialized. I have a Mormon friend that offered to take me to their packing facility and get as much as I want. She says the food tastes really good too.

I am still trying to imagine what things could be like. Will we be sitting in our homes without electricity and eating our dehydrated food for a year? Kind of reminds of living off of Top Ramen in college. What will we do all day?

And if there is only enough water to drink, then we won’t be able to shower, so we will develop horrible gross skin conditions as seen on some of the homeless.

I cannot imagine it will all shut down at once…it will be more a gradual process, like Al Gore’s description of the frog in the bunsen burner. The heat keeps getting turned up and we get cooked.

[Ricechex]

The issue with stocking up on food and water is that you can basically only save enough for about 3 days, unless you have an entire storage unit dedicated to this. Even if you do, the stuff goes bad eventually. Especially with water, it evaporates.

I have 3 days worth, and that will get us through a crisis, but the problem is the crisis is likely to be chronic and long term. I think stocking up on money is the best bet, as there will be food and water, but it will be VERY expensive. Same with the ham radio idea, good for a crisis, but when the grid is restored….cell phone usage might cost a pretty penny.

I think it is important to have a couple of guns available and security bars, because those that cannot afford to eat, will have nothing to lose by breaking into your home. I have a friend that has been broken into twice, and her food was stolen. And that has been during the “good” years.

[Ricechex]

The issue with stocking up on food and water is that you can basically only save enough for about 3 days, unless you have an entire storage unit dedicated to this. Even if you do, the stuff goes bad eventually. Especially with water, it evaporates.

I have 3 days worth, and that will get us through a crisis, but the problem is the crisis is likely to be chronic and long term. I think stocking up on money is the best bet, as there will be food and water, but it will be VERY expensive. Same with the ham radio idea, good for a crisis, but when the grid is restored….cell phone usage might cost a pretty penny.

I think it is important to have a couple of guns available and security bars, because those that cannot afford to eat, will have nothing to lose by breaking into your home. I have a friend that has been broken into twice, and her food was stolen. And that has been during the “good” years.

[Ricechex]

The issue with stocking up on food and water is that you can basically only save enough for about 3 days, unless you have an entire storage unit dedicated to this. Even if you do, the stuff goes bad eventually. Especially with water, it evaporates.

I have 3 days worth, and that will get us through a crisis, but the problem is the crisis is likely to be chronic and long term. I think stocking up on money is the best bet, as there will be food and water, but it will be VERY expensive. Same with the ham radio idea, good for a crisis, but when the grid is restored….cell phone usage might cost a pretty penny.

I think it is important to have a couple of guns available and security bars, because those that cannot afford to eat, will have nothing to lose by breaking into your home. I have a friend that has been broken into twice, and her food was stolen. And that has been during the “good” years.

[Ricechex]

The issue with stocking up on food and water is that you can basically only save enough for about 3 days, unless you have an entire storage unit dedicated to this. Even if you do, the stuff goes bad eventually. Especially with water, it evaporates.

I have 3 days worth, and that will get us through a crisis, but the problem is the crisis is likely to be chronic and long term. I think stocking up on money is the best bet, as there will be food and water, but it will be VERY expensive. Same with the ham radio idea, good for a crisis, but when the grid is restored….cell phone usage might cost a pretty penny.

I think it is important to have a couple of guns available and security bars, because those that cannot afford to eat, will have nothing to lose by breaking into your home. I have a friend that has been broken into twice, and her food was stolen. And that has been during the “good” years.

[Ricechex]

The issue with stocking up on food and water is that you can basically only save enough for about 3 days, unless you have an entire storage unit dedicated to this. Even if you do, the stuff goes bad eventually. Especially with water, it evaporates.

I have 3 days worth, and that will get us through a crisis, but the problem is the crisis is likely to be chronic and long term. I think stocking up on money is the best bet, as there will be food and water, but it will be VERY expensive. Same with the ham radio idea, good for a crisis, but when the grid is restored….cell phone usage might cost a pretty penny.

I think it is important to have a couple of guns available and security bars, because those that cannot afford to eat, will have nothing to lose by breaking into your home. I have a friend that has been broken into twice, and her food was stolen. And that has been during the “good” years.

[Ricechex]

Oh, it is not just neighbors! I have lived in CA since 1987, and in the last 10 years have noticed an “I don’t care” vacuous, indifferent and apathetic approach to people, whether it be corporate stores or the local dog grooming business.

In 2007, my mother was sick and I spent many weeks/months back and forth to Columbus, Ohio. I had to run errands and shop, and I had forgotten how nice people were in Ohio. They actually paid attention, said hello and made brief eye contact. Those small things made a difference in making a difficult time a little less stressful, even though no one knew what was going on in my life. They were just nice. Demographics do make a difference, though Columbus is a big city, there is still a somewhat rural approach to others.

[Ricechex]

Oh, it is not just neighbors! I have lived in CA since 1987, and in the last 10 years have noticed an “I don’t care” vacuous, indifferent and apathetic approach to people, whether it be corporate stores or the local dog grooming business.

In 2007, my mother was sick and I spent many weeks/months back and forth to Columbus, Ohio. I had to run errands and shop, and I had forgotten how nice people were in Ohio. They actually paid attention, said hello and made brief eye contact. Those small things made a difference in making a difficult time a little less stressful, even though no one knew what was going on in my life. They were just nice. Demographics do make a difference, though Columbus is a big city, there is still a somewhat rural approach to others.

[Ricechex]

Oh, it is not just neighbors! I have lived in CA since 1987, and in the last 10 years have noticed an “I don’t care” vacuous, indifferent and apathetic approach to people, whether it be corporate stores or the local dog grooming business.

In 2007, my mother was sick and I spent many weeks/months back and forth to Columbus, Ohio. I had to run errands and shop, and I had forgotten how nice people were in Ohio. They actually paid attention, said hello and made brief eye contact. Those small things made a difference in making a difficult time a little less stressful, even though no one knew what was going on in my life. They were just nice. Demographics do make a difference, though Columbus is a big city, there is still a somewhat rural approach to others.

[Ricechex]

Oh, it is not just neighbors! I have lived in CA since 1987, and in the last 10 years have noticed an “I don’t care” vacuous, indifferent and apathetic approach to people, whether it be corporate stores or the local dog grooming business.

In 2007, my mother was sick and I spent many weeks/months back and forth to Columbus, Ohio. I had to run errands and shop, and I had forgotten how nice people were in Ohio. They actually paid attention, said hello and made brief eye contact. Those small things made a difference in making a difficult time a little less stressful, even though no one knew what was going on in my life. They were just nice. Demographics do make a difference, though Columbus is a big city, there is still a somewhat rural approach to others.

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