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Zeitgeist and ScaredyCat…please stop this bickering. It is superficial and throwing jabs when none is due. I think references comparing anyone to Hitler are not valid, I have heard Jews (yes Jews) in my workplace refer to a boss as “Hitler.” Not cute. “Hitler” has come to mean, “people that are bad and controlling and cause you grief.” People referred to GW as a Hitler. Yeah, he was bad, as most politicians, but he certainly was not Hitler. It is just silly ignorance IMO. The true Hitler in our world is NOT a single man, it is an entire group of men comprising banks, corporations and government. Many are complicit in this scheme, there are too many to name one, and thus very difficult to infiltrate and overthrow. Our villain is not easily identifiable.

[Ricechex]

Partypup and Scaredycat…great info! Thanks much!

I would like to add (I am NOT an attorney), that the law works somewhat the same in regards to domestic violence. If the police get called, and the alleged offender sticks around, then both will get interviewed and someone arrested. If it is a lower level, minor injury, and the offender leaves the scene before the police arrives, alleged victim gets interviewed and that is it. No charges are pressed, nothing happens.

Child Welfare Services also works the same. If they get a lower risk level report, with say a 7 day response time, and they go to the home but are unable to contact either parent by phone or home visit, the case closes. If the parent is home, they will often force the parent in low level cases to sign a “voluntary contract.” Usually, they threaten to pull the kids if the parents are not cooperative with this “voluntary contract.” However, once the parent signs, now they HAVE to follow through, because they have signed the contract. If they don’t, then it is really an unpleasant situation for them.

[Ricechex]

Partypup and Scaredycat…great info! Thanks much!

I would like to add (I am NOT an attorney), that the law works somewhat the same in regards to domestic violence. If the police get called, and the alleged offender sticks around, then both will get interviewed and someone arrested. If it is a lower level, minor injury, and the offender leaves the scene before the police arrives, alleged victim gets interviewed and that is it. No charges are pressed, nothing happens.

Child Welfare Services also works the same. If they get a lower risk level report, with say a 7 day response time, and they go to the home but are unable to contact either parent by phone or home visit, the case closes. If the parent is home, they will often force the parent in low level cases to sign a “voluntary contract.” Usually, they threaten to pull the kids if the parents are not cooperative with this “voluntary contract.” However, once the parent signs, now they HAVE to follow through, because they have signed the contract. If they don’t, then it is really an unpleasant situation for them.

[Ricechex]

Partypup and Scaredycat…great info! Thanks much!

I would like to add (I am NOT an attorney), that the law works somewhat the same in regards to domestic violence. If the police get called, and the alleged offender sticks around, then both will get interviewed and someone arrested. If it is a lower level, minor injury, and the offender leaves the scene before the police arrives, alleged victim gets interviewed and that is it. No charges are pressed, nothing happens.

Child Welfare Services also works the same. If they get a lower risk level report, with say a 7 day response time, and they go to the home but are unable to contact either parent by phone or home visit, the case closes. If the parent is home, they will often force the parent in low level cases to sign a “voluntary contract.” Usually, they threaten to pull the kids if the parents are not cooperative with this “voluntary contract.” However, once the parent signs, now they HAVE to follow through, because they have signed the contract. If they don’t, then it is really an unpleasant situation for them.

[Ricechex]

Partypup and Scaredycat…great info! Thanks much!

I would like to add (I am NOT an attorney), that the law works somewhat the same in regards to domestic violence. If the police get called, and the alleged offender sticks around, then both will get interviewed and someone arrested. If it is a lower level, minor injury, and the offender leaves the scene before the police arrives, alleged victim gets interviewed and that is it. No charges are pressed, nothing happens.

Child Welfare Services also works the same. If they get a lower risk level report, with say a 7 day response time, and they go to the home but are unable to contact either parent by phone or home visit, the case closes. If the parent is home, they will often force the parent in low level cases to sign a “voluntary contract.” Usually, they threaten to pull the kids if the parents are not cooperative with this “voluntary contract.” However, once the parent signs, now they HAVE to follow through, because they have signed the contract. If they don’t, then it is really an unpleasant situation for them.

[Ricechex]

Partypup and Scaredycat…great info! Thanks much!

I would like to add (I am NOT an attorney), that the law works somewhat the same in regards to domestic violence. If the police get called, and the alleged offender sticks around, then both will get interviewed and someone arrested. If it is a lower level, minor injury, and the offender leaves the scene before the police arrives, alleged victim gets interviewed and that is it. No charges are pressed, nothing happens.

Child Welfare Services also works the same. If they get a lower risk level report, with say a 7 day response time, and they go to the home but are unable to contact either parent by phone or home visit, the case closes. If the parent is home, they will often force the parent in low level cases to sign a “voluntary contract.” Usually, they threaten to pull the kids if the parents are not cooperative with this “voluntary contract.” However, once the parent signs, now they HAVE to follow through, because they have signed the contract. If they don’t, then it is really an unpleasant situation for them.

[Ricechex]

I think facebook is great. I have connected with many old friends/acquaintances from HS, and even friends from Junior High. It is interesting to see what they are doing and who they have become. I don’t post too often myself, but I like to read others posts. There are some that post WAY too much, “I am going to work now” and that is tedious. These same people love to post about every football/baseball/sports event that their kid does. Boring. Enough already.

Then, there is the one crazy narcissistic woman who has 1000 friends, and she is always traveling the world and going to weird mystic party events and strange spiritual gatherings in countries all over the world, which I suspect are really sexual encounters with multiple people. And, yes, I had really known her in a professional environment, no less! Actually, I think facebook is voyeuristic in nature. It is interactive reality TV.

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I think facebook is great. I have connected with many old friends/acquaintances from HS, and even friends from Junior High. It is interesting to see what they are doing and who they have become. I don’t post too often myself, but I like to read others posts. There are some that post WAY too much, “I am going to work now” and that is tedious. These same people love to post about every football/baseball/sports event that their kid does. Boring. Enough already.

Then, there is the one crazy narcissistic woman who has 1000 friends, and she is always traveling the world and going to weird mystic party events and strange spiritual gatherings in countries all over the world, which I suspect are really sexual encounters with multiple people. And, yes, I had really known her in a professional environment, no less! Actually, I think facebook is voyeuristic in nature. It is interactive reality TV.

[Ricechex]

I think facebook is great. I have connected with many old friends/acquaintances from HS, and even friends from Junior High. It is interesting to see what they are doing and who they have become. I don’t post too often myself, but I like to read others posts. There are some that post WAY too much, “I am going to work now” and that is tedious. These same people love to post about every football/baseball/sports event that their kid does. Boring. Enough already.

Then, there is the one crazy narcissistic woman who has 1000 friends, and she is always traveling the world and going to weird mystic party events and strange spiritual gatherings in countries all over the world, which I suspect are really sexual encounters with multiple people. And, yes, I had really known her in a professional environment, no less! Actually, I think facebook is voyeuristic in nature. It is interactive reality TV.

[Ricechex]

I think facebook is great. I have connected with many old friends/acquaintances from HS, and even friends from Junior High. It is interesting to see what they are doing and who they have become. I don’t post too often myself, but I like to read others posts. There are some that post WAY too much, “I am going to work now” and that is tedious. These same people love to post about every football/baseball/sports event that their kid does. Boring. Enough already.

Then, there is the one crazy narcissistic woman who has 1000 friends, and she is always traveling the world and going to weird mystic party events and strange spiritual gatherings in countries all over the world, which I suspect are really sexual encounters with multiple people. And, yes, I had really known her in a professional environment, no less! Actually, I think facebook is voyeuristic in nature. It is interactive reality TV.

[Ricechex]

I think facebook is great. I have connected with many old friends/acquaintances from HS, and even friends from Junior High. It is interesting to see what they are doing and who they have become. I don’t post too often myself, but I like to read others posts. There are some that post WAY too much, “I am going to work now” and that is tedious. These same people love to post about every football/baseball/sports event that their kid does. Boring. Enough already.

Then, there is the one crazy narcissistic woman who has 1000 friends, and she is always traveling the world and going to weird mystic party events and strange spiritual gatherings in countries all over the world, which I suspect are really sexual encounters with multiple people. And, yes, I had really known her in a professional environment, no less! Actually, I think facebook is voyeuristic in nature. It is interactive reality TV.

[Ricechex]

[quote=4plexowner
some people classify rental units into three categories: A, B and C – an A property is considered a trophy property – something you can brag to your friends about – a B property is considered bread and butter – decent property, decent location but nothing exceptional – a C property is the lowest rung on the ladder – some people would call it slum-lording at the C level

I bought B properties but think there might be more money to be made in C properties – I would never deal with C level tenants personally – if I were going to buy C level units I would have them managed by someone else[/quote]

I do not have the management/investment experience as many on this board, BUT, we have owned a rental house in a C area for 8 years. We keep it up, and respond to tenant problems ASAP. I have found that tenants with dogs on approval are the best bet. Dog owners are more desperate. For over 3 years, I have had a fantastic single woman and her dog and 2 cats. She is clean, pays rent on time, would like to move to better neighborhood, but hears her friends having to move (foreclosures), raised rent (we do not raise rent on current tenants) and has stayed. The tenants I had without dogs, were the worst ghetto group I dealt with—very hard on the place. I find that in this particular C area house, families are much more destructive and unreliable.

Oh, and whoever posted on Jim Kunstler–he is great, I read him too, just ordered his latest book.

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[quote=4plexowner
some people classify rental units into three categories: A, B and C – an A property is considered a trophy property – something you can brag to your friends about – a B property is considered bread and butter – decent property, decent location but nothing exceptional – a C property is the lowest rung on the ladder – some people would call it slum-lording at the C level

I bought B properties but think there might be more money to be made in C properties – I would never deal with C level tenants personally – if I were going to buy C level units I would have them managed by someone else[/quote]

I do not have the management/investment experience as many on this board, BUT, we have owned a rental house in a C area for 8 years. We keep it up, and respond to tenant problems ASAP. I have found that tenants with dogs on approval are the best bet. Dog owners are more desperate. For over 3 years, I have had a fantastic single woman and her dog and 2 cats. She is clean, pays rent on time, would like to move to better neighborhood, but hears her friends having to move (foreclosures), raised rent (we do not raise rent on current tenants) and has stayed. The tenants I had without dogs, were the worst ghetto group I dealt with—very hard on the place. I find that in this particular C area house, families are much more destructive and unreliable.

Oh, and whoever posted on Jim Kunstler–he is great, I read him too, just ordered his latest book.

[Ricechex]

[quote=4plexowner
some people classify rental units into three categories: A, B and C – an A property is considered a trophy property – something you can brag to your friends about – a B property is considered bread and butter – decent property, decent location but nothing exceptional – a C property is the lowest rung on the ladder – some people would call it slum-lording at the C level

I bought B properties but think there might be more money to be made in C properties – I would never deal with C level tenants personally – if I were going to buy C level units I would have them managed by someone else[/quote]

I do not have the management/investment experience as many on this board, BUT, we have owned a rental house in a C area for 8 years. We keep it up, and respond to tenant problems ASAP. I have found that tenants with dogs on approval are the best bet. Dog owners are more desperate. For over 3 years, I have had a fantastic single woman and her dog and 2 cats. She is clean, pays rent on time, would like to move to better neighborhood, but hears her friends having to move (foreclosures), raised rent (we do not raise rent on current tenants) and has stayed. The tenants I had without dogs, were the worst ghetto group I dealt with—very hard on the place. I find that in this particular C area house, families are much more destructive and unreliable.

Oh, and whoever posted on Jim Kunstler–he is great, I read him too, just ordered his latest book.

[Ricechex]

[quote=4plexowner
some people classify rental units into three categories: A, B and C – an A property is considered a trophy property – something you can brag to your friends about – a B property is considered bread and butter – decent property, decent location but nothing exceptional – a C property is the lowest rung on the ladder – some people would call it slum-lording at the C level

I bought B properties but think there might be more money to be made in C properties – I would never deal with C level tenants personally – if I were going to buy C level units I would have them managed by someone else[/quote]

I do not have the management/investment experience as many on this board, BUT, we have owned a rental house in a C area for 8 years. We keep it up, and respond to tenant problems ASAP. I have found that tenants with dogs on approval are the best bet. Dog owners are more desperate. For over 3 years, I have had a fantastic single woman and her dog and 2 cats. She is clean, pays rent on time, would like to move to better neighborhood, but hears her friends having to move (foreclosures), raised rent (we do not raise rent on current tenants) and has stayed. The tenants I had without dogs, were the worst ghetto group I dealt with—very hard on the place. I find that in this particular C area house, families are much more destructive and unreliable.

Oh, and whoever posted on Jim Kunstler–he is great, I read him too, just ordered his latest book.

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