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ParticipantI had a high school teacher in 1969 who explained that democracy is not necessarily the best government for everyone – he argued that dictatorship may be the best system for some countries. I believe that Iraq may be one of those countries, when you have tribal / ethnic / religious peoples who historically clash, and who want it to stay that way, then there needs to be a powerful figure to lay down the rules, hopefully a “benevolent” dictator.
Yup. Some cultures are only stable when the leaders do their political thinking for them. I think there are probably only two ways to fix Iraq: getting another (probably ruthless) dictatorial government in place, or spending gadzillions of dollars to split it into three or possibly four countries and build walls between them. If the kids refuse to learn to play well together, you have to either scare them into submission or separate them.
ParticipantI had a high school teacher in 1969 who explained that democracy is not necessarily the best government for everyone – he argued that dictatorship may be the best system for some countries. I believe that Iraq may be one of those countries, when you have tribal / ethnic / religious peoples who historically clash, and who want it to stay that way, then there needs to be a powerful figure to lay down the rules, hopefully a “benevolent” dictator.
Yup. Some cultures are only stable when the leaders do their political thinking for them. I think there are probably only two ways to fix Iraq: getting another (probably ruthless) dictatorial government in place, or spending gadzillions of dollars to split it into three or possibly four countries and build walls between them. If the kids refuse to learn to play well together, you have to either scare them into submission or separate them.
ParticipantI had a high school teacher in 1969 who explained that democracy is not necessarily the best government for everyone – he argued that dictatorship may be the best system for some countries. I believe that Iraq may be one of those countries, when you have tribal / ethnic / religious peoples who historically clash, and who want it to stay that way, then there needs to be a powerful figure to lay down the rules, hopefully a “benevolent” dictator.
Yup. Some cultures are only stable when the leaders do their political thinking for them. I think there are probably only two ways to fix Iraq: getting another (probably ruthless) dictatorial government in place, or spending gadzillions of dollars to split it into three or possibly four countries and build walls between them. If the kids refuse to learn to play well together, you have to either scare them into submission or separate them.
ParticipantI had a high school teacher in 1969 who explained that democracy is not necessarily the best government for everyone – he argued that dictatorship may be the best system for some countries. I believe that Iraq may be one of those countries, when you have tribal / ethnic / religious peoples who historically clash, and who want it to stay that way, then there needs to be a powerful figure to lay down the rules, hopefully a “benevolent” dictator.
Yup. Some cultures are only stable when the leaders do their political thinking for them. I think there are probably only two ways to fix Iraq: getting another (probably ruthless) dictatorial government in place, or spending gadzillions of dollars to split it into three or possibly four countries and build walls between them. If the kids refuse to learn to play well together, you have to either scare them into submission or separate them.
ParticipantI had a high school teacher in 1969 who explained that democracy is not necessarily the best government for everyone – he argued that dictatorship may be the best system for some countries. I believe that Iraq may be one of those countries, when you have tribal / ethnic / religious peoples who historically clash, and who want it to stay that way, then there needs to be a powerful figure to lay down the rules, hopefully a “benevolent” dictator.
Yup. Some cultures are only stable when the leaders do their political thinking for them. I think there are probably only two ways to fix Iraq: getting another (probably ruthless) dictatorial government in place, or spending gadzillions of dollars to split it into three or possibly four countries and build walls between them. If the kids refuse to learn to play well together, you have to either scare them into submission or separate them.
ParticipantI had a high school teacher in 1969 who explained that democracy is not necessarily the best government for everyone – he argued that dictatorship may be the best system for some countries. I believe that Iraq may be one of those countries, when you have tribal / ethnic / religious peoples who historically clash, and who want it to stay that way, then there needs to be a powerful figure to lay down the rules, hopefully a “benevolent” dictator.
Yup. Some cultures are only stable when the leaders do their political thinking for them. I think there are probably only two ways to fix Iraq: getting another (probably ruthless) dictatorial government in place, or spending gadzillions of dollars to split it into three or possibly four countries and build walls between them. If the kids refuse to learn to play well together, you have to either scare them into submission or separate them.
ParticipantThe insurgents are just doing what any people would do if they were invaded and occupied…
First off I agree with the rest of your post and your stance on the war. I just wanted to point out that this particular sentence is the wrong argument to use to convince someone else of that. The insurgents are not doing what any people would do if they were invaded. If the U.S. was occupied by Russia, I wouldn’t go out and start blowing up Buddhist temples in the name of Christianity, I would blow up Russian military targets.
The insurgents want to appear to be rebelling against the occupation and the Iraqi government, but their actions say otherwise – they are killing people of other ethnicities and beliefs simply because they differ from their own. The U.S. occupying forces just happen to fit into that extremely broad category, and the invasion was an opportunity and excuse for them to start exercising some of the hate and ignorance that consumes them. They’ll happily keep killing after we withdraw.
ParticipantThe insurgents are just doing what any people would do if they were invaded and occupied…
First off I agree with the rest of your post and your stance on the war. I just wanted to point out that this particular sentence is the wrong argument to use to convince someone else of that. The insurgents are not doing what any people would do if they were invaded. If the U.S. was occupied by Russia, I wouldn’t go out and start blowing up Buddhist temples in the name of Christianity, I would blow up Russian military targets.
The insurgents want to appear to be rebelling against the occupation and the Iraqi government, but their actions say otherwise – they are killing people of other ethnicities and beliefs simply because they differ from their own. The U.S. occupying forces just happen to fit into that extremely broad category, and the invasion was an opportunity and excuse for them to start exercising some of the hate and ignorance that consumes them. They’ll happily keep killing after we withdraw.
ParticipantThe insurgents are just doing what any people would do if they were invaded and occupied…
First off I agree with the rest of your post and your stance on the war. I just wanted to point out that this particular sentence is the wrong argument to use to convince someone else of that. The insurgents are not doing what any people would do if they were invaded. If the U.S. was occupied by Russia, I wouldn’t go out and start blowing up Buddhist temples in the name of Christianity, I would blow up Russian military targets.
The insurgents want to appear to be rebelling against the occupation and the Iraqi government, but their actions say otherwise – they are killing people of other ethnicities and beliefs simply because they differ from their own. The U.S. occupying forces just happen to fit into that extremely broad category, and the invasion was an opportunity and excuse for them to start exercising some of the hate and ignorance that consumes them. They’ll happily keep killing after we withdraw.
ParticipantThe insurgents are just doing what any people would do if they were invaded and occupied…
First off I agree with the rest of your post and your stance on the war. I just wanted to point out that this particular sentence is the wrong argument to use to convince someone else of that. The insurgents are not doing what any people would do if they were invaded. If the U.S. was occupied by Russia, I wouldn’t go out and start blowing up Buddhist temples in the name of Christianity, I would blow up Russian military targets.
The insurgents want to appear to be rebelling against the occupation and the Iraqi government, but their actions say otherwise – they are killing people of other ethnicities and beliefs simply because they differ from their own. The U.S. occupying forces just happen to fit into that extremely broad category, and the invasion was an opportunity and excuse for them to start exercising some of the hate and ignorance that consumes them. They’ll happily keep killing after we withdraw.
ParticipantThe insurgents are just doing what any people would do if they were invaded and occupied…
First off I agree with the rest of your post and your stance on the war. I just wanted to point out that this particular sentence is the wrong argument to use to convince someone else of that. The insurgents are not doing what any people would do if they were invaded. If the U.S. was occupied by Russia, I wouldn’t go out and start blowing up Buddhist temples in the name of Christianity, I would blow up Russian military targets.
The insurgents want to appear to be rebelling against the occupation and the Iraqi government, but their actions say otherwise – they are killing people of other ethnicities and beliefs simply because they differ from their own. The U.S. occupying forces just happen to fit into that extremely broad category, and the invasion was an opportunity and excuse for them to start exercising some of the hate and ignorance that consumes them. They’ll happily keep killing after we withdraw.
ParticipantI married into a Catholic, liberal family (I’m agnostic and registered non-partisan). My wife and mother-in-law both planned to vote for Clinton over Obama in the primary “because she’s a woman”, no other reason, and they freely admit it. As crazy as that makes me, I hoped that someone putting so little thought into politics probably wouldn’t bother going to vote either – and it turns out I was right 🙂 I guess it wasn’t that important to them.
They know I think it’s stupid, no point in beating a dead horse. Usually someone with an opinion held for most of their adult life will have a very tough time changing it on their own, so you certainly won’t be able to change it for them.
The mother-in-law and I once had a “discussion” on immigration. I’m for a tightly controlled border and sweeping reforms (without amnesty), she’s for doing nothing at all because “it won’t work.” I can easily take apart every argument she has, but of course it doesn’t change her mind. So we just haven’t mentioned it since, and we get along famously.
I just make a point of being extremely informed about the issues that are most important to me. If someone wants to talk about it, I’m happy to oblige them. I stay calm, but if they don’t, I walk away.
I have friends that aren’t into politics at all, and it’s refreshing to spend time with them.
ParticipantI married into a Catholic, liberal family (I’m agnostic and registered non-partisan). My wife and mother-in-law both planned to vote for Clinton over Obama in the primary “because she’s a woman”, no other reason, and they freely admit it. As crazy as that makes me, I hoped that someone putting so little thought into politics probably wouldn’t bother going to vote either – and it turns out I was right 🙂 I guess it wasn’t that important to them.
They know I think it’s stupid, no point in beating a dead horse. Usually someone with an opinion held for most of their adult life will have a very tough time changing it on their own, so you certainly won’t be able to change it for them.
The mother-in-law and I once had a “discussion” on immigration. I’m for a tightly controlled border and sweeping reforms (without amnesty), she’s for doing nothing at all because “it won’t work.” I can easily take apart every argument she has, but of course it doesn’t change her mind. So we just haven’t mentioned it since, and we get along famously.
I just make a point of being extremely informed about the issues that are most important to me. If someone wants to talk about it, I’m happy to oblige them. I stay calm, but if they don’t, I walk away.
I have friends that aren’t into politics at all, and it’s refreshing to spend time with them.
ParticipantI married into a Catholic, liberal family (I’m agnostic and registered non-partisan). My wife and mother-in-law both planned to vote for Clinton over Obama in the primary “because she’s a woman”, no other reason, and they freely admit it. As crazy as that makes me, I hoped that someone putting so little thought into politics probably wouldn’t bother going to vote either – and it turns out I was right 🙂 I guess it wasn’t that important to them.
They know I think it’s stupid, no point in beating a dead horse. Usually someone with an opinion held for most of their adult life will have a very tough time changing it on their own, so you certainly won’t be able to change it for them.
The mother-in-law and I once had a “discussion” on immigration. I’m for a tightly controlled border and sweeping reforms (without amnesty), she’s for doing nothing at all because “it won’t work.” I can easily take apart every argument she has, but of course it doesn’t change her mind. So we just haven’t mentioned it since, and we get along famously.
I just make a point of being extremely informed about the issues that are most important to me. If someone wants to talk about it, I’m happy to oblige them. I stay calm, but if they don’t, I walk away.
I have friends that aren’t into politics at all, and it’s refreshing to spend time with them.
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