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Raybyrnes
ParticipantThe best technicians usually learn their craft at a dealership. From a sales stand point, at least for new cars sales people are there to essentially sit with you on test drive.
Lease, buy, or finance depends on the person. I could pay cash but prefer to finance because I typically find financing rates close to risk free rates of return and I like liquidity.
If I owned a business and had multiple vehicles, Leases would provide better cash flow and greater deductions. MACRES limits your deduction on a finance but section 179 rewards you on vehicles over 6000 GVW.
Under My system if a dealer had a more convenient location you would go to that location and register your intent to buy. You could ask questions do our test drive etc without any hassle. The dealer would go out of their way to please you because if they pissed you off you would register elsewhere. Price would not be the determinant.
Imagine getting a person who could tell you about disc brakes maintenance costs, fuel consumption, product recalls, design changes as opposed to some slap ass running back and forth to a sales manager seeing what price to offer. ridiculous.
Raybyrnes
ParticipantThe best technicians usually learn their craft at a dealership. From a sales stand point, at least for new cars sales people are there to essentially sit with you on test drive.
Lease, buy, or finance depends on the person. I could pay cash but prefer to finance because I typically find financing rates close to risk free rates of return and I like liquidity.
If I owned a business and had multiple vehicles, Leases would provide better cash flow and greater deductions. MACRES limits your deduction on a finance but section 179 rewards you on vehicles over 6000 GVW.
Under My system if a dealer had a more convenient location you would go to that location and register your intent to buy. You could ask questions do our test drive etc without any hassle. The dealer would go out of their way to please you because if they pissed you off you would register elsewhere. Price would not be the determinant.
Imagine getting a person who could tell you about disc brakes maintenance costs, fuel consumption, product recalls, design changes as opposed to some slap ass running back and forth to a sales manager seeing what price to offer. ridiculous.
Raybyrnes
ParticipantThe best technicians usually learn their craft at a dealership. From a sales stand point, at least for new cars sales people are there to essentially sit with you on test drive.
Lease, buy, or finance depends on the person. I could pay cash but prefer to finance because I typically find financing rates close to risk free rates of return and I like liquidity.
If I owned a business and had multiple vehicles, Leases would provide better cash flow and greater deductions. MACRES limits your deduction on a finance but section 179 rewards you on vehicles over 6000 GVW.
Under My system if a dealer had a more convenient location you would go to that location and register your intent to buy. You could ask questions do our test drive etc without any hassle. The dealer would go out of their way to please you because if they pissed you off you would register elsewhere. Price would not be the determinant.
Imagine getting a person who could tell you about disc brakes maintenance costs, fuel consumption, product recalls, design changes as opposed to some slap ass running back and forth to a sales manager seeing what price to offer. ridiculous.
Raybyrnes
ParticipantThe best technicians usually learn their craft at a dealership. From a sales stand point, at least for new cars sales people are there to essentially sit with you on test drive.
Lease, buy, or finance depends on the person. I could pay cash but prefer to finance because I typically find financing rates close to risk free rates of return and I like liquidity.
If I owned a business and had multiple vehicles, Leases would provide better cash flow and greater deductions. MACRES limits your deduction on a finance but section 179 rewards you on vehicles over 6000 GVW.
Under My system if a dealer had a more convenient location you would go to that location and register your intent to buy. You could ask questions do our test drive etc without any hassle. The dealer would go out of their way to please you because if they pissed you off you would register elsewhere. Price would not be the determinant.
Imagine getting a person who could tell you about disc brakes maintenance costs, fuel consumption, product recalls, design changes as opposed to some slap ass running back and forth to a sales manager seeing what price to offer. ridiculous.
Raybyrnes
ParticipantI’m not asking to regulate car prices because manufacturers compete against manufacturer so there is competition.
Additionally if you have nicer facilities and a more pleasant experience for the customer that would attract more customers to your dealership where you would then be able to register the customer in the event that they end up buying that product.
New cars have become commodities and almost all pricing is available if you have a computer. If you have industry experience (which I do) you see the supply chain in a much better light.
Most people hold car sales in a very low position. That speak to the way the system is currently working. My system would eliminate waste and refocus the customer on the customer experience. The majority of people wold get a better deal because cars could be built when you order it and shipped to you when they are ready.
In 15 to 20 years you will see this come to fruition. Largest car dealer in the world right now is ebay. Believe me, I have thought this through.
Raybyrnes
ParticipantI’m not asking to regulate car prices because manufacturers compete against manufacturer so there is competition.
Additionally if you have nicer facilities and a more pleasant experience for the customer that would attract more customers to your dealership where you would then be able to register the customer in the event that they end up buying that product.
New cars have become commodities and almost all pricing is available if you have a computer. If you have industry experience (which I do) you see the supply chain in a much better light.
Most people hold car sales in a very low position. That speak to the way the system is currently working. My system would eliminate waste and refocus the customer on the customer experience. The majority of people wold get a better deal because cars could be built when you order it and shipped to you when they are ready.
In 15 to 20 years you will see this come to fruition. Largest car dealer in the world right now is ebay. Believe me, I have thought this through.
Raybyrnes
ParticipantI’m not asking to regulate car prices because manufacturers compete against manufacturer so there is competition.
Additionally if you have nicer facilities and a more pleasant experience for the customer that would attract more customers to your dealership where you would then be able to register the customer in the event that they end up buying that product.
New cars have become commodities and almost all pricing is available if you have a computer. If you have industry experience (which I do) you see the supply chain in a much better light.
Most people hold car sales in a very low position. That speak to the way the system is currently working. My system would eliminate waste and refocus the customer on the customer experience. The majority of people wold get a better deal because cars could be built when you order it and shipped to you when they are ready.
In 15 to 20 years you will see this come to fruition. Largest car dealer in the world right now is ebay. Believe me, I have thought this through.
Raybyrnes
ParticipantI’m not asking to regulate car prices because manufacturers compete against manufacturer so there is competition.
Additionally if you have nicer facilities and a more pleasant experience for the customer that would attract more customers to your dealership where you would then be able to register the customer in the event that they end up buying that product.
New cars have become commodities and almost all pricing is available if you have a computer. If you have industry experience (which I do) you see the supply chain in a much better light.
Most people hold car sales in a very low position. That speak to the way the system is currently working. My system would eliminate waste and refocus the customer on the customer experience. The majority of people wold get a better deal because cars could be built when you order it and shipped to you when they are ready.
In 15 to 20 years you will see this come to fruition. Largest car dealer in the world right now is ebay. Believe me, I have thought this through.
Raybyrnes
ParticipantI’m not asking to regulate car prices because manufacturers compete against manufacturer so there is competition.
Additionally if you have nicer facilities and a more pleasant experience for the customer that would attract more customers to your dealership where you would then be able to register the customer in the event that they end up buying that product.
New cars have become commodities and almost all pricing is available if you have a computer. If you have industry experience (which I do) you see the supply chain in a much better light.
Most people hold car sales in a very low position. That speak to the way the system is currently working. My system would eliminate waste and refocus the customer on the customer experience. The majority of people wold get a better deal because cars could be built when you order it and shipped to you when they are ready.
In 15 to 20 years you will see this come to fruition. Largest car dealer in the world right now is ebay. Believe me, I have thought this through.
Raybyrnes
ParticipantBriansd1. We can agree to disagree. Manufacturers would still be under competitive pressure from other Manufacturers. What you would essentially do is eliminate this BS notion of MSRP and then discount. Better supply chain would allow manufacturers to produce in real time. It would take gyrations out of the production cycle and create lower pricing form the get go.
Dealers all pay the same price for cars anyway. What I am suggesting is offer a dealer direct price to the consumer.
By the way your analogy of Drugs from the standpoint of Drugs working under and insurance system and life and death decisions can’t be accounted for in an economic model.
Raybyrnes
ParticipantBriansd1. We can agree to disagree. Manufacturers would still be under competitive pressure from other Manufacturers. What you would essentially do is eliminate this BS notion of MSRP and then discount. Better supply chain would allow manufacturers to produce in real time. It would take gyrations out of the production cycle and create lower pricing form the get go.
Dealers all pay the same price for cars anyway. What I am suggesting is offer a dealer direct price to the consumer.
By the way your analogy of Drugs from the standpoint of Drugs working under and insurance system and life and death decisions can’t be accounted for in an economic model.
Raybyrnes
ParticipantBriansd1. We can agree to disagree. Manufacturers would still be under competitive pressure from other Manufacturers. What you would essentially do is eliminate this BS notion of MSRP and then discount. Better supply chain would allow manufacturers to produce in real time. It would take gyrations out of the production cycle and create lower pricing form the get go.
Dealers all pay the same price for cars anyway. What I am suggesting is offer a dealer direct price to the consumer.
By the way your analogy of Drugs from the standpoint of Drugs working under and insurance system and life and death decisions can’t be accounted for in an economic model.
Raybyrnes
ParticipantBriansd1. We can agree to disagree. Manufacturers would still be under competitive pressure from other Manufacturers. What you would essentially do is eliminate this BS notion of MSRP and then discount. Better supply chain would allow manufacturers to produce in real time. It would take gyrations out of the production cycle and create lower pricing form the get go.
Dealers all pay the same price for cars anyway. What I am suggesting is offer a dealer direct price to the consumer.
By the way your analogy of Drugs from the standpoint of Drugs working under and insurance system and life and death decisions can’t be accounted for in an economic model.
Raybyrnes
ParticipantBriansd1. We can agree to disagree. Manufacturers would still be under competitive pressure from other Manufacturers. What you would essentially do is eliminate this BS notion of MSRP and then discount. Better supply chain would allow manufacturers to produce in real time. It would take gyrations out of the production cycle and create lower pricing form the get go.
Dealers all pay the same price for cars anyway. What I am suggesting is offer a dealer direct price to the consumer.
By the way your analogy of Drugs from the standpoint of Drugs working under and insurance system and life and death decisions can’t be accounted for in an economic model.
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