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Participant[quote=jstoesz]Yeah, the state is a magnet for the irresponsible[/quote]
I think there’s often a conflation of time and space. Many other folks who’ve arrived in San Diego in their adulthood have memories of faraway hometowns from the 60s, 70s, or even 80s – and the San Diego of the 2000s+ seems materialistic, irresponsible, expensive. Because of the maturation of consumer culture over the last 30 years, these properties are found nationwide. Here in San Diego, there are enough people who can achieve material excess, and plenty who aspire to it. But the vast majority are normal folks. Once you see past the perceived stereotypes, its a city full of honest, hardworking people.
Locals have to deal with this at Padre games all the time: people living in San Diego who are brash about their old hometeams and hostile to their “host” city. And San Diegans – well, we don’t really care – just spend your money and have a good time. Its not that people are passive here, its just that most of us like where we live and don’t need to say much more. As housing grows more (relatively) affordable, then that helps us stay here.
Go down to Tio Leo’s on Morena and take a good look at the illuminated photo by the hostess stand. I love that photo. Its probably from the early 70s. It shows the San Diego of my childhood – a small, mellow town. I long for that place. But I know that the city has grown, but having a long memory, I know that that the spirit of that small town still exists in the people and neighborhoods of today. Keep in mind that back then, I used to ride my BMX around the dusty hills that’s now Carmel Valley.
We’ve all been paying careful attention to the housing bubble. We know this was a national (indeed international – ask people from Ireland & Spain) phenomenon. The irresponsibility is widespread.
Its just that San Diego, LA, SF, etc. are expensive – more expensive than MN or IA. So is NYC and Boston. I love the Twin Cities. But historical market forces say that this is a more desirable place to live. So, it costs more. Its just really up to individuals as to where they want to live.
Participant[quote=Ima Nass]My wife and I thought about moving to San Diego. Drove around some of the so-called villages, and La Jolla …and left. [/quote]
This is exactly the out-of-towner perspective that I was talking about. The old “locals only/tourists-go-home” attitude would be: fine!
Sit down and have a talk with anyone over 30 who grew up here and we’ll tell you the good and bad, just like any hometown. But there’s a reason a lot of us decide to stay – and with prices where they’re headed, more of us can and will.
Participant[quote=Ima Nass]My wife and I thought about moving to San Diego. Drove around some of the so-called villages, and La Jolla …and left. [/quote]
This is exactly the out-of-towner perspective that I was talking about. The old “locals only/tourists-go-home” attitude would be: fine!
Sit down and have a talk with anyone over 30 who grew up here and we’ll tell you the good and bad, just like any hometown. But there’s a reason a lot of us decide to stay – and with prices where they’re headed, more of us can and will.
Participant[quote=Ima Nass]My wife and I thought about moving to San Diego. Drove around some of the so-called villages, and La Jolla …and left. [/quote]
This is exactly the out-of-towner perspective that I was talking about. The old “locals only/tourists-go-home” attitude would be: fine!
Sit down and have a talk with anyone over 30 who grew up here and we’ll tell you the good and bad, just like any hometown. But there’s a reason a lot of us decide to stay – and with prices where they’re headed, more of us can and will.
Participant[quote=Ima Nass]My wife and I thought about moving to San Diego. Drove around some of the so-called villages, and La Jolla …and left. [/quote]
This is exactly the out-of-towner perspective that I was talking about. The old “locals only/tourists-go-home” attitude would be: fine!
Sit down and have a talk with anyone over 30 who grew up here and we’ll tell you the good and bad, just like any hometown. But there’s a reason a lot of us decide to stay – and with prices where they’re headed, more of us can and will.
Participant[quote=Ima Nass]My wife and I thought about moving to San Diego. Drove around some of the so-called villages, and La Jolla …and left. [/quote]
This is exactly the out-of-towner perspective that I was talking about. The old “locals only/tourists-go-home” attitude would be: fine!
Sit down and have a talk with anyone over 30 who grew up here and we’ll tell you the good and bad, just like any hometown. But there’s a reason a lot of us decide to stay – and with prices where they’re headed, more of us can and will.
Participant[quote=jstoesz]But the cost of living is prohibitive to a family oriented, single income earning, private school provided life style that I badly want to provide. [/quote]
This is exactly me. After 10 long years of being perplexed, angry, and confounded by the international housing bubble, I’ve found houses in family neighborhoods that I can afford.
San Diego has always had a “sunshine discount,” and I remember people talking about it even when I was a kid in the 70s. That’s BS. The reason I like it here goes beyond it being my hometown: epic fishing, surfing, hiking, cycling; the diverse community, “city of villages,” and a rather stunning downtown; the natural beauty of the chaparral, pine forests in mountains and the sublime beauty of the desert; the excellent and rather cheap food, produce, and emergent farm-to-table food economy; the “small town feel” of the place (maybe not so much in the exurbs) and relaxed attitude of locals, etc etc. Torrey Pines is mine whenever I want, as is Coronado and La Jolla. Santa Monica and Malibu to the north, Ensenada and the Mexican surfing towns to the south (where we all hope the situation improves for folks down there). Its our town.
This is a place where people vacation, and it offers a high standard of living. Housing is expensive. Too expensive. But its becoming more “affordable.” Still very be skewed compared to MN, Montana, Iowa, or Utah. But goodness, sure is better than the cheaper dystopic bubble cities in NV, AZ, and FL. I’d go for CO and OR, for what its worth. But again, family’s here. High school friends are here. Job’s here. And I think things have gotten more affordable and that’s where its headed.
Participant[quote=jstoesz]But the cost of living is prohibitive to a family oriented, single income earning, private school provided life style that I badly want to provide. [/quote]
This is exactly me. After 10 long years of being perplexed, angry, and confounded by the international housing bubble, I’ve found houses in family neighborhoods that I can afford.
San Diego has always had a “sunshine discount,” and I remember people talking about it even when I was a kid in the 70s. That’s BS. The reason I like it here goes beyond it being my hometown: epic fishing, surfing, hiking, cycling; the diverse community, “city of villages,” and a rather stunning downtown; the natural beauty of the chaparral, pine forests in mountains and the sublime beauty of the desert; the excellent and rather cheap food, produce, and emergent farm-to-table food economy; the “small town feel” of the place (maybe not so much in the exurbs) and relaxed attitude of locals, etc etc. Torrey Pines is mine whenever I want, as is Coronado and La Jolla. Santa Monica and Malibu to the north, Ensenada and the Mexican surfing towns to the south (where we all hope the situation improves for folks down there). Its our town.
This is a place where people vacation, and it offers a high standard of living. Housing is expensive. Too expensive. But its becoming more “affordable.” Still very be skewed compared to MN, Montana, Iowa, or Utah. But goodness, sure is better than the cheaper dystopic bubble cities in NV, AZ, and FL. I’d go for CO and OR, for what its worth. But again, family’s here. High school friends are here. Job’s here. And I think things have gotten more affordable and that’s where its headed.
Participant[quote=jstoesz]But the cost of living is prohibitive to a family oriented, single income earning, private school provided life style that I badly want to provide. [/quote]
This is exactly me. After 10 long years of being perplexed, angry, and confounded by the international housing bubble, I’ve found houses in family neighborhoods that I can afford.
San Diego has always had a “sunshine discount,” and I remember people talking about it even when I was a kid in the 70s. That’s BS. The reason I like it here goes beyond it being my hometown: epic fishing, surfing, hiking, cycling; the diverse community, “city of villages,” and a rather stunning downtown; the natural beauty of the chaparral, pine forests in mountains and the sublime beauty of the desert; the excellent and rather cheap food, produce, and emergent farm-to-table food economy; the “small town feel” of the place (maybe not so much in the exurbs) and relaxed attitude of locals, etc etc. Torrey Pines is mine whenever I want, as is Coronado and La Jolla. Santa Monica and Malibu to the north, Ensenada and the Mexican surfing towns to the south (where we all hope the situation improves for folks down there). Its our town.
This is a place where people vacation, and it offers a high standard of living. Housing is expensive. Too expensive. But its becoming more “affordable.” Still very be skewed compared to MN, Montana, Iowa, or Utah. But goodness, sure is better than the cheaper dystopic bubble cities in NV, AZ, and FL. I’d go for CO and OR, for what its worth. But again, family’s here. High school friends are here. Job’s here. And I think things have gotten more affordable and that’s where its headed.
Participant[quote=jstoesz]But the cost of living is prohibitive to a family oriented, single income earning, private school provided life style that I badly want to provide. [/quote]
This is exactly me. After 10 long years of being perplexed, angry, and confounded by the international housing bubble, I’ve found houses in family neighborhoods that I can afford.
San Diego has always had a “sunshine discount,” and I remember people talking about it even when I was a kid in the 70s. That’s BS. The reason I like it here goes beyond it being my hometown: epic fishing, surfing, hiking, cycling; the diverse community, “city of villages,” and a rather stunning downtown; the natural beauty of the chaparral, pine forests in mountains and the sublime beauty of the desert; the excellent and rather cheap food, produce, and emergent farm-to-table food economy; the “small town feel” of the place (maybe not so much in the exurbs) and relaxed attitude of locals, etc etc. Torrey Pines is mine whenever I want, as is Coronado and La Jolla. Santa Monica and Malibu to the north, Ensenada and the Mexican surfing towns to the south (where we all hope the situation improves for folks down there). Its our town.
This is a place where people vacation, and it offers a high standard of living. Housing is expensive. Too expensive. But its becoming more “affordable.” Still very be skewed compared to MN, Montana, Iowa, or Utah. But goodness, sure is better than the cheaper dystopic bubble cities in NV, AZ, and FL. I’d go for CO and OR, for what its worth. But again, family’s here. High school friends are here. Job’s here. And I think things have gotten more affordable and that’s where its headed.
Participant[quote=jstoesz]But the cost of living is prohibitive to a family oriented, single income earning, private school provided life style that I badly want to provide. [/quote]
This is exactly me. After 10 long years of being perplexed, angry, and confounded by the international housing bubble, I’ve found houses in family neighborhoods that I can afford.
San Diego has always had a “sunshine discount,” and I remember people talking about it even when I was a kid in the 70s. That’s BS. The reason I like it here goes beyond it being my hometown: epic fishing, surfing, hiking, cycling; the diverse community, “city of villages,” and a rather stunning downtown; the natural beauty of the chaparral, pine forests in mountains and the sublime beauty of the desert; the excellent and rather cheap food, produce, and emergent farm-to-table food economy; the “small town feel” of the place (maybe not so much in the exurbs) and relaxed attitude of locals, etc etc. Torrey Pines is mine whenever I want, as is Coronado and La Jolla. Santa Monica and Malibu to the north, Ensenada and the Mexican surfing towns to the south (where we all hope the situation improves for folks down there). Its our town.
This is a place where people vacation, and it offers a high standard of living. Housing is expensive. Too expensive. But its becoming more “affordable.” Still very be skewed compared to MN, Montana, Iowa, or Utah. But goodness, sure is better than the cheaper dystopic bubble cities in NV, AZ, and FL. I’d go for CO and OR, for what its worth. But again, family’s here. High school friends are here. Job’s here. And I think things have gotten more affordable and that’s where its headed.
Participant[quote=FormerSanDiegan]I think it is still considered Clairemont by those that live there.[/quote]
I’ve always thought of it as Clairemont, too. That’s what I’d call it.
Participant[quote=FormerSanDiegan]I think it is still considered Clairemont by those that live there.[/quote]
I’ve always thought of it as Clairemont, too. That’s what I’d call it.
Participant[quote=FormerSanDiegan]I think it is still considered Clairemont by those that live there.[/quote]
I’ve always thought of it as Clairemont, too. That’s what I’d call it.
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