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poorgradstudent
ParticipantAtheists as a whole are better educated and earn more money than people of faith, so that’s probably part of where the money comes from. Atheists as a whole make more money than agnostics (which is my own personal point of view, although I’m technically somewhere between Apathetic Agnostic and Secular Humanist).
Interestingly, atheists also tend to marry later, have fewer children, and are much less likely to get divorced (although comparable for believers who marry later and have similar education levels).
poorgradstudent
ParticipantAtheists as a whole are better educated and earn more money than people of faith, so that’s probably part of where the money comes from. Atheists as a whole make more money than agnostics (which is my own personal point of view, although I’m technically somewhere between Apathetic Agnostic and Secular Humanist).
Interestingly, atheists also tend to marry later, have fewer children, and are much less likely to get divorced (although comparable for believers who marry later and have similar education levels).
poorgradstudent
ParticipantIt’s been well known since I was a baby that too much sugar is bad for anyone’s diet, and getting enough fiber is important for digestive health. I’m personally a little skeptical of HFCS vs. other sources of sugar aside from some taste issues. Ultimately if you consume the same amount of cane sugar as Corn syrup, you’re probably at the same risk of diabetes or obesity.
poorgradstudent
ParticipantIt’s been well known since I was a baby that too much sugar is bad for anyone’s diet, and getting enough fiber is important for digestive health. I’m personally a little skeptical of HFCS vs. other sources of sugar aside from some taste issues. Ultimately if you consume the same amount of cane sugar as Corn syrup, you’re probably at the same risk of diabetes or obesity.
poorgradstudent
ParticipantIt’s been well known since I was a baby that too much sugar is bad for anyone’s diet, and getting enough fiber is important for digestive health. I’m personally a little skeptical of HFCS vs. other sources of sugar aside from some taste issues. Ultimately if you consume the same amount of cane sugar as Corn syrup, you’re probably at the same risk of diabetes or obesity.
poorgradstudent
ParticipantIt’s been well known since I was a baby that too much sugar is bad for anyone’s diet, and getting enough fiber is important for digestive health. I’m personally a little skeptical of HFCS vs. other sources of sugar aside from some taste issues. Ultimately if you consume the same amount of cane sugar as Corn syrup, you’re probably at the same risk of diabetes or obesity.
poorgradstudent
ParticipantIt’s been well known since I was a baby that too much sugar is bad for anyone’s diet, and getting enough fiber is important for digestive health. I’m personally a little skeptical of HFCS vs. other sources of sugar aside from some taste issues. Ultimately if you consume the same amount of cane sugar as Corn syrup, you’re probably at the same risk of diabetes or obesity.
poorgradstudent
ParticipantI’m fairly sure Math and Science teachers tend to be paid more than some of their less heavily demanded counterparts. It’s pretty simple supply and demand, and most people capable of teaching math and science could easily make more money doing something else. Love of teaching will only go so far; at some point there does need to be financial rewards.
Because of a fairly powerful union, teacher salaries do tend to be fairly top-heavy. On the one hand, it’s nice for teachers to know that a raise is coming as they become more experienced. However in terms of actual value, most first, second and third year teachers probably provide a lot more than their more highly paid and experienced colleagues. Private school salaries are a good example of what happens when you don’t have a union; teaching is a pretty decent job at first, but private schools do very little to reward seniority.
Finally, I have a friend who is a teacher, and “Work schedule is 7:00 to 3:00 and with numerous holidays and short days” is at best misleading. Minimally 6:30-3:30 would be more accurate. Yeah, if a teacher has the same class for a decade their prep time is reduced, but there still is grading and test prep (it’s a very lazy teacher who gives the same test year after year hoping students won’t get a copy from an older brother), and there are staff meetings.
In short, teacher pay is a complex issue without easy answers. I think most people can agree that performance has become too uncoupled from pay. It’s intuitive to say we need good, smart people teaching kids, and good pay is what lures smart people into careers. And private schools show exactly how challenging it is to provide a strong education while keeping costs down.
poorgradstudent
ParticipantI’m fairly sure Math and Science teachers tend to be paid more than some of their less heavily demanded counterparts. It’s pretty simple supply and demand, and most people capable of teaching math and science could easily make more money doing something else. Love of teaching will only go so far; at some point there does need to be financial rewards.
Because of a fairly powerful union, teacher salaries do tend to be fairly top-heavy. On the one hand, it’s nice for teachers to know that a raise is coming as they become more experienced. However in terms of actual value, most first, second and third year teachers probably provide a lot more than their more highly paid and experienced colleagues. Private school salaries are a good example of what happens when you don’t have a union; teaching is a pretty decent job at first, but private schools do very little to reward seniority.
Finally, I have a friend who is a teacher, and “Work schedule is 7:00 to 3:00 and with numerous holidays and short days” is at best misleading. Minimally 6:30-3:30 would be more accurate. Yeah, if a teacher has the same class for a decade their prep time is reduced, but there still is grading and test prep (it’s a very lazy teacher who gives the same test year after year hoping students won’t get a copy from an older brother), and there are staff meetings.
In short, teacher pay is a complex issue without easy answers. I think most people can agree that performance has become too uncoupled from pay. It’s intuitive to say we need good, smart people teaching kids, and good pay is what lures smart people into careers. And private schools show exactly how challenging it is to provide a strong education while keeping costs down.
poorgradstudent
ParticipantI’m fairly sure Math and Science teachers tend to be paid more than some of their less heavily demanded counterparts. It’s pretty simple supply and demand, and most people capable of teaching math and science could easily make more money doing something else. Love of teaching will only go so far; at some point there does need to be financial rewards.
Because of a fairly powerful union, teacher salaries do tend to be fairly top-heavy. On the one hand, it’s nice for teachers to know that a raise is coming as they become more experienced. However in terms of actual value, most first, second and third year teachers probably provide a lot more than their more highly paid and experienced colleagues. Private school salaries are a good example of what happens when you don’t have a union; teaching is a pretty decent job at first, but private schools do very little to reward seniority.
Finally, I have a friend who is a teacher, and “Work schedule is 7:00 to 3:00 and with numerous holidays and short days” is at best misleading. Minimally 6:30-3:30 would be more accurate. Yeah, if a teacher has the same class for a decade their prep time is reduced, but there still is grading and test prep (it’s a very lazy teacher who gives the same test year after year hoping students won’t get a copy from an older brother), and there are staff meetings.
In short, teacher pay is a complex issue without easy answers. I think most people can agree that performance has become too uncoupled from pay. It’s intuitive to say we need good, smart people teaching kids, and good pay is what lures smart people into careers. And private schools show exactly how challenging it is to provide a strong education while keeping costs down.
poorgradstudent
ParticipantI’m fairly sure Math and Science teachers tend to be paid more than some of their less heavily demanded counterparts. It’s pretty simple supply and demand, and most people capable of teaching math and science could easily make more money doing something else. Love of teaching will only go so far; at some point there does need to be financial rewards.
Because of a fairly powerful union, teacher salaries do tend to be fairly top-heavy. On the one hand, it’s nice for teachers to know that a raise is coming as they become more experienced. However in terms of actual value, most first, second and third year teachers probably provide a lot more than their more highly paid and experienced colleagues. Private school salaries are a good example of what happens when you don’t have a union; teaching is a pretty decent job at first, but private schools do very little to reward seniority.
Finally, I have a friend who is a teacher, and “Work schedule is 7:00 to 3:00 and with numerous holidays and short days” is at best misleading. Minimally 6:30-3:30 would be more accurate. Yeah, if a teacher has the same class for a decade their prep time is reduced, but there still is grading and test prep (it’s a very lazy teacher who gives the same test year after year hoping students won’t get a copy from an older brother), and there are staff meetings.
In short, teacher pay is a complex issue without easy answers. I think most people can agree that performance has become too uncoupled from pay. It’s intuitive to say we need good, smart people teaching kids, and good pay is what lures smart people into careers. And private schools show exactly how challenging it is to provide a strong education while keeping costs down.
poorgradstudent
ParticipantI’m fairly sure Math and Science teachers tend to be paid more than some of their less heavily demanded counterparts. It’s pretty simple supply and demand, and most people capable of teaching math and science could easily make more money doing something else. Love of teaching will only go so far; at some point there does need to be financial rewards.
Because of a fairly powerful union, teacher salaries do tend to be fairly top-heavy. On the one hand, it’s nice for teachers to know that a raise is coming as they become more experienced. However in terms of actual value, most first, second and third year teachers probably provide a lot more than their more highly paid and experienced colleagues. Private school salaries are a good example of what happens when you don’t have a union; teaching is a pretty decent job at first, but private schools do very little to reward seniority.
Finally, I have a friend who is a teacher, and “Work schedule is 7:00 to 3:00 and with numerous holidays and short days” is at best misleading. Minimally 6:30-3:30 would be more accurate. Yeah, if a teacher has the same class for a decade their prep time is reduced, but there still is grading and test prep (it’s a very lazy teacher who gives the same test year after year hoping students won’t get a copy from an older brother), and there are staff meetings.
In short, teacher pay is a complex issue without easy answers. I think most people can agree that performance has become too uncoupled from pay. It’s intuitive to say we need good, smart people teaching kids, and good pay is what lures smart people into careers. And private schools show exactly how challenging it is to provide a strong education while keeping costs down.
October 27, 2009 at 9:44 PM in reply to: OT: What to do with all those Baby Einstein DVD videos… #475026poorgradstudent
ParticipantYou know, I have a friend who got into the Baby Einstein thing early. They didn’t really believe it made their kids smarter. But their kids liked the videos, and they aren’t nearly as annoying as a lot of stuff aimed at kids. Classical music and art is far less grating than your typical Teletubbies episode.
October 27, 2009 at 9:44 PM in reply to: OT: What to do with all those Baby Einstein DVD videos… #475102poorgradstudent
ParticipantYou know, I have a friend who got into the Baby Einstein thing early. They didn’t really believe it made their kids smarter. But their kids liked the videos, and they aren’t nearly as annoying as a lot of stuff aimed at kids. Classical music and art is far less grating than your typical Teletubbies episode.
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