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Participant[quote=4plexowner]that factor would keep me out of La Mesa / San Carlos / etc if I had to commute I-8 east between 4 and 6 PM everyday
I’ve never seen I-15 north NOT be like that north of Mira Mesa Blvd regardless of the time of day so any housing north of there is of zero interest to me – likewise for I-5 north of the merge
life is too short to sit in traffic[/quote]
There are people who get to leave work before 5:30? Lucky! 🙂Definitely want to avoid I-15, hence the lack of excitement about Escondido.
Participant[quote=4plexowner]that factor would keep me out of La Mesa / San Carlos / etc if I had to commute I-8 east between 4 and 6 PM everyday
I’ve never seen I-15 north NOT be like that north of Mira Mesa Blvd regardless of the time of day so any housing north of there is of zero interest to me – likewise for I-5 north of the merge
life is too short to sit in traffic[/quote]
There are people who get to leave work before 5:30? Lucky! 🙂Definitely want to avoid I-15, hence the lack of excitement about Escondido.
Participant[quote=4plexowner]it’s easy to say this – are you really going to spend an hour in the car on a weeknight? – same with the beach – it is easy to say, “we’re only 30 minutes from the beach”, but are you really going to get in the car and drive there[/quote]
My first year of living in San Diego I went to the beach a LOT. But now, I rarely go. Certainly not during the week. On the weekends? If the weather is crappy, what’s the point? If it’s nice, there’s traffic, parking, and tourists. Most of the beach areas the time it takes to get off the 5 and get parked is probably more time than it takes to drive there.Our friends just bought a place in Santee, and barring bad traffic, door-to-door from our current place it’s about 20 minutes. It’s comparable to our current commutes. We actually DO drive out to Mission Trails on a pretty regular basis. I’d actually rather live <5 minutes from Mission Trails than the beach.
There are some nice houses for cheap in Escondido, but yeah, distance and isolation would really concern me there, along with dealing with the 15 south. We haven't completely ruled it out, but the big selling point there is definitely niceness/affordability.
Participant[quote=4plexowner]it’s easy to say this – are you really going to spend an hour in the car on a weeknight? – same with the beach – it is easy to say, “we’re only 30 minutes from the beach”, but are you really going to get in the car and drive there[/quote]
My first year of living in San Diego I went to the beach a LOT. But now, I rarely go. Certainly not during the week. On the weekends? If the weather is crappy, what’s the point? If it’s nice, there’s traffic, parking, and tourists. Most of the beach areas the time it takes to get off the 5 and get parked is probably more time than it takes to drive there.Our friends just bought a place in Santee, and barring bad traffic, door-to-door from our current place it’s about 20 minutes. It’s comparable to our current commutes. We actually DO drive out to Mission Trails on a pretty regular basis. I’d actually rather live <5 minutes from Mission Trails than the beach.
There are some nice houses for cheap in Escondido, but yeah, distance and isolation would really concern me there, along with dealing with the 15 south. We haven't completely ruled it out, but the big selling point there is definitely niceness/affordability.
Participant[quote=4plexowner]it’s easy to say this – are you really going to spend an hour in the car on a weeknight? – same with the beach – it is easy to say, “we’re only 30 minutes from the beach”, but are you really going to get in the car and drive there[/quote]
My first year of living in San Diego I went to the beach a LOT. But now, I rarely go. Certainly not during the week. On the weekends? If the weather is crappy, what’s the point? If it’s nice, there’s traffic, parking, and tourists. Most of the beach areas the time it takes to get off the 5 and get parked is probably more time than it takes to drive there.Our friends just bought a place in Santee, and barring bad traffic, door-to-door from our current place it’s about 20 minutes. It’s comparable to our current commutes. We actually DO drive out to Mission Trails on a pretty regular basis. I’d actually rather live <5 minutes from Mission Trails than the beach.
There are some nice houses for cheap in Escondido, but yeah, distance and isolation would really concern me there, along with dealing with the 15 south. We haven't completely ruled it out, but the big selling point there is definitely niceness/affordability.
Participant[quote=4plexowner]it’s easy to say this – are you really going to spend an hour in the car on a weeknight? – same with the beach – it is easy to say, “we’re only 30 minutes from the beach”, but are you really going to get in the car and drive there[/quote]
My first year of living in San Diego I went to the beach a LOT. But now, I rarely go. Certainly not during the week. On the weekends? If the weather is crappy, what’s the point? If it’s nice, there’s traffic, parking, and tourists. Most of the beach areas the time it takes to get off the 5 and get parked is probably more time than it takes to drive there.Our friends just bought a place in Santee, and barring bad traffic, door-to-door from our current place it’s about 20 minutes. It’s comparable to our current commutes. We actually DO drive out to Mission Trails on a pretty regular basis. I’d actually rather live <5 minutes from Mission Trails than the beach.
There are some nice houses for cheap in Escondido, but yeah, distance and isolation would really concern me there, along with dealing with the 15 south. We haven't completely ruled it out, but the big selling point there is definitely niceness/affordability.
Participant[quote=4plexowner]it’s easy to say this – are you really going to spend an hour in the car on a weeknight? – same with the beach – it is easy to say, “we’re only 30 minutes from the beach”, but are you really going to get in the car and drive there[/quote]
My first year of living in San Diego I went to the beach a LOT. But now, I rarely go. Certainly not during the week. On the weekends? If the weather is crappy, what’s the point? If it’s nice, there’s traffic, parking, and tourists. Most of the beach areas the time it takes to get off the 5 and get parked is probably more time than it takes to drive there.Our friends just bought a place in Santee, and barring bad traffic, door-to-door from our current place it’s about 20 minutes. It’s comparable to our current commutes. We actually DO drive out to Mission Trails on a pretty regular basis. I’d actually rather live <5 minutes from Mission Trails than the beach.
There are some nice houses for cheap in Escondido, but yeah, distance and isolation would really concern me there, along with dealing with the 15 south. We haven't completely ruled it out, but the big selling point there is definitely niceness/affordability.
ParticipantYeah, the more comparable transactions, the better the estimate. The Zestimates will always be better in neighborhoods with a decent number of recent sales and will always do better when prices are stable as opposed to rising or falling. Some properties truly are “one of a kind”, and those are much harder to estimate mathematically compared to model homes on the same street or condos in the same building where there have been recent sales.
ParticipantYeah, the more comparable transactions, the better the estimate. The Zestimates will always be better in neighborhoods with a decent number of recent sales and will always do better when prices are stable as opposed to rising or falling. Some properties truly are “one of a kind”, and those are much harder to estimate mathematically compared to model homes on the same street or condos in the same building where there have been recent sales.
ParticipantYeah, the more comparable transactions, the better the estimate. The Zestimates will always be better in neighborhoods with a decent number of recent sales and will always do better when prices are stable as opposed to rising or falling. Some properties truly are “one of a kind”, and those are much harder to estimate mathematically compared to model homes on the same street or condos in the same building where there have been recent sales.
ParticipantYeah, the more comparable transactions, the better the estimate. The Zestimates will always be better in neighborhoods with a decent number of recent sales and will always do better when prices are stable as opposed to rising or falling. Some properties truly are “one of a kind”, and those are much harder to estimate mathematically compared to model homes on the same street or condos in the same building where there have been recent sales.
ParticipantYeah, the more comparable transactions, the better the estimate. The Zestimates will always be better in neighborhoods with a decent number of recent sales and will always do better when prices are stable as opposed to rising or falling. Some properties truly are “one of a kind”, and those are much harder to estimate mathematically compared to model homes on the same street or condos in the same building where there have been recent sales.
ParticipantSo there will never be another boom again?
I agree that California’s economy was pretty heavily leveraged on sectors that do well during the up part of economic cycles. Wait, what was that last word. Cycle… cycle.
Just as when times were good people felt the good times would last forever, there’s an emotional tendency for people to think economic downturns will last forever. The smart money buys when everyone else is scared to and sells when everyone else still thinks there is gas in the tank.
By 2011 people will have all but forgotten the recession, and 2012-2013 will be a new boom.
ParticipantSo there will never be another boom again?
I agree that California’s economy was pretty heavily leveraged on sectors that do well during the up part of economic cycles. Wait, what was that last word. Cycle… cycle.
Just as when times were good people felt the good times would last forever, there’s an emotional tendency for people to think economic downturns will last forever. The smart money buys when everyone else is scared to and sells when everyone else still thinks there is gas in the tank.
By 2011 people will have all but forgotten the recession, and 2012-2013 will be a new boom.
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