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PKMAN
Participant4 months ago I was in the market for a new sedan. I was originally very interested in the Pontiac G8 GT, as I like the styling, the power and the price. I also liked the fact that I’d be able to support the “Buy American” movement.
So I visited a Pontiac dealership but was disappointed to find that the G8 lacks the one feature that I really wanted, navigation, which was available in most other sedans in the price range. On-Star is good for emergencies but can’t replace the convenience of nav for everyday driving.
I then also learned that G8 is built in Australia. Now I have nothing against the Aussies and don’t have a clue on the workmanship there, but my intention was to support American manufacturing, not Aussie’s.
So I ended up buying a Honda Accord, with nav, which was built in Marysville Ohio. Soon after I bought the car the decision of canning Pontiac was made by GM, which is probably no big loss anyway since its best car is made in Australia, not USA. But I’m glad I didn’t get the G8 or I’d have service issues in the future and probably very poor resale value.
The lesson I learned from this car-shopping experience; don’t buy American based on brand…buy American based on actual site of manufacturing. So what if components may not all be sourced in the US. I seriously doubt if there is a 100% made in USA car out there, with all components sourced from within this country.. and that all suppliers of these components sourced their raw materials (steel, plastic, etc.) from within this country.
PKMAN
Participant4 months ago I was in the market for a new sedan. I was originally very interested in the Pontiac G8 GT, as I like the styling, the power and the price. I also liked the fact that I’d be able to support the “Buy American” movement.
So I visited a Pontiac dealership but was disappointed to find that the G8 lacks the one feature that I really wanted, navigation, which was available in most other sedans in the price range. On-Star is good for emergencies but can’t replace the convenience of nav for everyday driving.
I then also learned that G8 is built in Australia. Now I have nothing against the Aussies and don’t have a clue on the workmanship there, but my intention was to support American manufacturing, not Aussie’s.
So I ended up buying a Honda Accord, with nav, which was built in Marysville Ohio. Soon after I bought the car the decision of canning Pontiac was made by GM, which is probably no big loss anyway since its best car is made in Australia, not USA. But I’m glad I didn’t get the G8 or I’d have service issues in the future and probably very poor resale value.
The lesson I learned from this car-shopping experience; don’t buy American based on brand…buy American based on actual site of manufacturing. So what if components may not all be sourced in the US. I seriously doubt if there is a 100% made in USA car out there, with all components sourced from within this country.. and that all suppliers of these components sourced their raw materials (steel, plastic, etc.) from within this country.
PKMAN
Participant4 months ago I was in the market for a new sedan. I was originally very interested in the Pontiac G8 GT, as I like the styling, the power and the price. I also liked the fact that I’d be able to support the “Buy American” movement.
So I visited a Pontiac dealership but was disappointed to find that the G8 lacks the one feature that I really wanted, navigation, which was available in most other sedans in the price range. On-Star is good for emergencies but can’t replace the convenience of nav for everyday driving.
I then also learned that G8 is built in Australia. Now I have nothing against the Aussies and don’t have a clue on the workmanship there, but my intention was to support American manufacturing, not Aussie’s.
So I ended up buying a Honda Accord, with nav, which was built in Marysville Ohio. Soon after I bought the car the decision of canning Pontiac was made by GM, which is probably no big loss anyway since its best car is made in Australia, not USA. But I’m glad I didn’t get the G8 or I’d have service issues in the future and probably very poor resale value.
The lesson I learned from this car-shopping experience; don’t buy American based on brand…buy American based on actual site of manufacturing. So what if components may not all be sourced in the US. I seriously doubt if there is a 100% made in USA car out there, with all components sourced from within this country.. and that all suppliers of these components sourced their raw materials (steel, plastic, etc.) from within this country.
PKMAN
Participant4 months ago I was in the market for a new sedan. I was originally very interested in the Pontiac G8 GT, as I like the styling, the power and the price. I also liked the fact that I’d be able to support the “Buy American” movement.
So I visited a Pontiac dealership but was disappointed to find that the G8 lacks the one feature that I really wanted, navigation, which was available in most other sedans in the price range. On-Star is good for emergencies but can’t replace the convenience of nav for everyday driving.
I then also learned that G8 is built in Australia. Now I have nothing against the Aussies and don’t have a clue on the workmanship there, but my intention was to support American manufacturing, not Aussie’s.
So I ended up buying a Honda Accord, with nav, which was built in Marysville Ohio. Soon after I bought the car the decision of canning Pontiac was made by GM, which is probably no big loss anyway since its best car is made in Australia, not USA. But I’m glad I didn’t get the G8 or I’d have service issues in the future and probably very poor resale value.
The lesson I learned from this car-shopping experience; don’t buy American based on brand…buy American based on actual site of manufacturing. So what if components may not all be sourced in the US. I seriously doubt if there is a 100% made in USA car out there, with all components sourced from within this country.. and that all suppliers of these components sourced their raw materials (steel, plastic, etc.) from within this country.
PKMAN
ParticipantWhy not look into SEH? I heard the new schools there are pretty good. Prices seem very low but you can rent there first and wait to see if they’ll go down further.
For me, I really like to town-within-town atmosphere of SEH and would definitely consider if I work up in the North County.
PKMAN
ParticipantWhy not look into SEH? I heard the new schools there are pretty good. Prices seem very low but you can rent there first and wait to see if they’ll go down further.
For me, I really like to town-within-town atmosphere of SEH and would definitely consider if I work up in the North County.
PKMAN
ParticipantWhy not look into SEH? I heard the new schools there are pretty good. Prices seem very low but you can rent there first and wait to see if they’ll go down further.
For me, I really like to town-within-town atmosphere of SEH and would definitely consider if I work up in the North County.
PKMAN
ParticipantWhy not look into SEH? I heard the new schools there are pretty good. Prices seem very low but you can rent there first and wait to see if they’ll go down further.
For me, I really like to town-within-town atmosphere of SEH and would definitely consider if I work up in the North County.
PKMAN
ParticipantWhy not look into SEH? I heard the new schools there are pretty good. Prices seem very low but you can rent there first and wait to see if they’ll go down further.
For me, I really like to town-within-town atmosphere of SEH and would definitely consider if I work up in the North County.
PKMAN
Participant[quote=jpinpb]A few good things I think we make:
Craftsman tools
Bose
F-16s
Harley Davidsons
Bell helicopters
Sikorsky helicopters
Boeing jets
Ford trucks (they are good)
General Electric turbine engines
Viking appliances
Wolfe appliances
John Deere tractors
Caterpillar diesel engines
Jenn-Air
Calloway
Oakley glasses[/quote]
These products are assembled in USA with parts and components sourced from all over the world, including China.Boeing 787 Dreamliner is the most famous global-cooperation project. Companies in Japan, China and Europe make various pieces with Boeing doing the final assembly. It may not be the most cost-effective way but it is necessary to entice these foreign governments to support their country’s airliners to buy Boeing jets. If Boeing insists on 100% made in USA, it would go bankrupt since foreign airliners make up the bulk of its business nowadays.
US is perfectly capable of being 100% self-reliant, as we’re one of the very few countries in the world that have all the know-how and the natural resources to make just about anything and everything. However that’d make us another North Korea.
In the 70s, Japanese products were laughed at. In the 80s and up to mid 90s, it was the Taiwanese products (remember in the movie Armageddon the Russian cosmonaut said “Russian components, American components, they’re all made in Taiwan”…or something like that). Now it’s the Chinese.
Eventually when Chinese-made products get better (as Japanese and Taiwanese products have), we’ll find someone else to blame. I can just see it. June 4th – July 4th of 2019 will be the “anti-Bulgaria” month.
PKMAN
Participant[quote=jpinpb]A few good things I think we make:
Craftsman tools
Bose
F-16s
Harley Davidsons
Bell helicopters
Sikorsky helicopters
Boeing jets
Ford trucks (they are good)
General Electric turbine engines
Viking appliances
Wolfe appliances
John Deere tractors
Caterpillar diesel engines
Jenn-Air
Calloway
Oakley glasses[/quote]
These products are assembled in USA with parts and components sourced from all over the world, including China.Boeing 787 Dreamliner is the most famous global-cooperation project. Companies in Japan, China and Europe make various pieces with Boeing doing the final assembly. It may not be the most cost-effective way but it is necessary to entice these foreign governments to support their country’s airliners to buy Boeing jets. If Boeing insists on 100% made in USA, it would go bankrupt since foreign airliners make up the bulk of its business nowadays.
US is perfectly capable of being 100% self-reliant, as we’re one of the very few countries in the world that have all the know-how and the natural resources to make just about anything and everything. However that’d make us another North Korea.
In the 70s, Japanese products were laughed at. In the 80s and up to mid 90s, it was the Taiwanese products (remember in the movie Armageddon the Russian cosmonaut said “Russian components, American components, they’re all made in Taiwan”…or something like that). Now it’s the Chinese.
Eventually when Chinese-made products get better (as Japanese and Taiwanese products have), we’ll find someone else to blame. I can just see it. June 4th – July 4th of 2019 will be the “anti-Bulgaria” month.
PKMAN
Participant[quote=jpinpb]A few good things I think we make:
Craftsman tools
Bose
F-16s
Harley Davidsons
Bell helicopters
Sikorsky helicopters
Boeing jets
Ford trucks (they are good)
General Electric turbine engines
Viking appliances
Wolfe appliances
John Deere tractors
Caterpillar diesel engines
Jenn-Air
Calloway
Oakley glasses[/quote]
These products are assembled in USA with parts and components sourced from all over the world, including China.Boeing 787 Dreamliner is the most famous global-cooperation project. Companies in Japan, China and Europe make various pieces with Boeing doing the final assembly. It may not be the most cost-effective way but it is necessary to entice these foreign governments to support their country’s airliners to buy Boeing jets. If Boeing insists on 100% made in USA, it would go bankrupt since foreign airliners make up the bulk of its business nowadays.
US is perfectly capable of being 100% self-reliant, as we’re one of the very few countries in the world that have all the know-how and the natural resources to make just about anything and everything. However that’d make us another North Korea.
In the 70s, Japanese products were laughed at. In the 80s and up to mid 90s, it was the Taiwanese products (remember in the movie Armageddon the Russian cosmonaut said “Russian components, American components, they’re all made in Taiwan”…or something like that). Now it’s the Chinese.
Eventually when Chinese-made products get better (as Japanese and Taiwanese products have), we’ll find someone else to blame. I can just see it. June 4th – July 4th of 2019 will be the “anti-Bulgaria” month.
PKMAN
Participant[quote=jpinpb]A few good things I think we make:
Craftsman tools
Bose
F-16s
Harley Davidsons
Bell helicopters
Sikorsky helicopters
Boeing jets
Ford trucks (they are good)
General Electric turbine engines
Viking appliances
Wolfe appliances
John Deere tractors
Caterpillar diesel engines
Jenn-Air
Calloway
Oakley glasses[/quote]
These products are assembled in USA with parts and components sourced from all over the world, including China.Boeing 787 Dreamliner is the most famous global-cooperation project. Companies in Japan, China and Europe make various pieces with Boeing doing the final assembly. It may not be the most cost-effective way but it is necessary to entice these foreign governments to support their country’s airliners to buy Boeing jets. If Boeing insists on 100% made in USA, it would go bankrupt since foreign airliners make up the bulk of its business nowadays.
US is perfectly capable of being 100% self-reliant, as we’re one of the very few countries in the world that have all the know-how and the natural resources to make just about anything and everything. However that’d make us another North Korea.
In the 70s, Japanese products were laughed at. In the 80s and up to mid 90s, it was the Taiwanese products (remember in the movie Armageddon the Russian cosmonaut said “Russian components, American components, they’re all made in Taiwan”…or something like that). Now it’s the Chinese.
Eventually when Chinese-made products get better (as Japanese and Taiwanese products have), we’ll find someone else to blame. I can just see it. June 4th – July 4th of 2019 will be the “anti-Bulgaria” month.
PKMAN
Participant[quote=jpinpb]A few good things I think we make:
Craftsman tools
Bose
F-16s
Harley Davidsons
Bell helicopters
Sikorsky helicopters
Boeing jets
Ford trucks (they are good)
General Electric turbine engines
Viking appliances
Wolfe appliances
John Deere tractors
Caterpillar diesel engines
Jenn-Air
Calloway
Oakley glasses[/quote]
These products are assembled in USA with parts and components sourced from all over the world, including China.Boeing 787 Dreamliner is the most famous global-cooperation project. Companies in Japan, China and Europe make various pieces with Boeing doing the final assembly. It may not be the most cost-effective way but it is necessary to entice these foreign governments to support their country’s airliners to buy Boeing jets. If Boeing insists on 100% made in USA, it would go bankrupt since foreign airliners make up the bulk of its business nowadays.
US is perfectly capable of being 100% self-reliant, as we’re one of the very few countries in the world that have all the know-how and the natural resources to make just about anything and everything. However that’d make us another North Korea.
In the 70s, Japanese products were laughed at. In the 80s and up to mid 90s, it was the Taiwanese products (remember in the movie Armageddon the Russian cosmonaut said “Russian components, American components, they’re all made in Taiwan”…or something like that). Now it’s the Chinese.
Eventually when Chinese-made products get better (as Japanese and Taiwanese products have), we’ll find someone else to blame. I can just see it. June 4th – July 4th of 2019 will be the “anti-Bulgaria” month.
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