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patientrenter
ParticipantShaming people for not paying back their debt. That’s so…. un-American.
ParticipantShaming people for not paying back their debt. That’s so…. un-American.
ParticipantShaming people for not paying back their debt. That’s so…. un-American.
ParticipantCA Renter,
Money from the govt isn’t “extra” money that we would fail to have if the govt were not there. All govt money comes from taxpayers. The money is there with or without govt. It’s just a question of who gets to spend it.
No one doubts that the trillions of dollars spent on govt produces SOME value. All some of us are saying is that govt isn’t usually organized to be a competitive, lean provider. Consequently, we’re all economically better off to keep its role in the economy to a minimum (not zero), and to err on the side of less when there is doubt.
Yes, private companies create waste and are generally less than perfect. But they usually have some competition, and that seems to be the only effective way to keep waste levels down across an enormous range of economic activity. Or you could try central planning. Good luck with that!
ParticipantCA Renter,
Money from the govt isn’t “extra” money that we would fail to have if the govt were not there. All govt money comes from taxpayers. The money is there with or without govt. It’s just a question of who gets to spend it.
No one doubts that the trillions of dollars spent on govt produces SOME value. All some of us are saying is that govt isn’t usually organized to be a competitive, lean provider. Consequently, we’re all economically better off to keep its role in the economy to a minimum (not zero), and to err on the side of less when there is doubt.
Yes, private companies create waste and are generally less than perfect. But they usually have some competition, and that seems to be the only effective way to keep waste levels down across an enormous range of economic activity. Or you could try central planning. Good luck with that!
ParticipantCA Renter,
Money from the govt isn’t “extra” money that we would fail to have if the govt were not there. All govt money comes from taxpayers. The money is there with or without govt. It’s just a question of who gets to spend it.
No one doubts that the trillions of dollars spent on govt produces SOME value. All some of us are saying is that govt isn’t usually organized to be a competitive, lean provider. Consequently, we’re all economically better off to keep its role in the economy to a minimum (not zero), and to err on the side of less when there is doubt.
Yes, private companies create waste and are generally less than perfect. But they usually have some competition, and that seems to be the only effective way to keep waste levels down across an enormous range of economic activity. Or you could try central planning. Good luck with that!
ParticipantCA Renter,
Money from the govt isn’t “extra” money that we would fail to have if the govt were not there. All govt money comes from taxpayers. The money is there with or without govt. It’s just a question of who gets to spend it.
No one doubts that the trillions of dollars spent on govt produces SOME value. All some of us are saying is that govt isn’t usually organized to be a competitive, lean provider. Consequently, we’re all economically better off to keep its role in the economy to a minimum (not zero), and to err on the side of less when there is doubt.
Yes, private companies create waste and are generally less than perfect. But they usually have some competition, and that seems to be the only effective way to keep waste levels down across an enormous range of economic activity. Or you could try central planning. Good luck with that!
ParticipantCA Renter,
Money from the govt isn’t “extra” money that we would fail to have if the govt were not there. All govt money comes from taxpayers. The money is there with or without govt. It’s just a question of who gets to spend it.
No one doubts that the trillions of dollars spent on govt produces SOME value. All some of us are saying is that govt isn’t usually organized to be a competitive, lean provider. Consequently, we’re all economically better off to keep its role in the economy to a minimum (not zero), and to err on the side of less when there is doubt.
Yes, private companies create waste and are generally less than perfect. But they usually have some competition, and that seems to be the only effective way to keep waste levels down across an enormous range of economic activity. Or you could try central planning. Good luck with that!
October 9, 2008 at 10:49 PM in reply to: Touchy Topic: American citizens competing for scarce jobs with 20 million illegals #284870ParticipantFLU, I greatly favor legal immigration of highly qualified smart people. Why? Because it will probably make me wealthier, and I will have more people to make my good friends. Perhaps because I am conservative, my social circle is dominated by a few nationalities sometimes associated with high educational achievement, high savings, business sense, trustworthiness, loyalty…
October 9, 2008 at 10:49 PM in reply to: Touchy Topic: American citizens competing for scarce jobs with 20 million illegals #285160ParticipantFLU, I greatly favor legal immigration of highly qualified smart people. Why? Because it will probably make me wealthier, and I will have more people to make my good friends. Perhaps because I am conservative, my social circle is dominated by a few nationalities sometimes associated with high educational achievement, high savings, business sense, trustworthiness, loyalty…
October 9, 2008 at 10:49 PM in reply to: Touchy Topic: American citizens competing for scarce jobs with 20 million illegals #285181ParticipantFLU, I greatly favor legal immigration of highly qualified smart people. Why? Because it will probably make me wealthier, and I will have more people to make my good friends. Perhaps because I am conservative, my social circle is dominated by a few nationalities sometimes associated with high educational achievement, high savings, business sense, trustworthiness, loyalty…
October 9, 2008 at 10:49 PM in reply to: Touchy Topic: American citizens competing for scarce jobs with 20 million illegals #285202ParticipantFLU, I greatly favor legal immigration of highly qualified smart people. Why? Because it will probably make me wealthier, and I will have more people to make my good friends. Perhaps because I am conservative, my social circle is dominated by a few nationalities sometimes associated with high educational achievement, high savings, business sense, trustworthiness, loyalty…
October 9, 2008 at 10:49 PM in reply to: Touchy Topic: American citizens competing for scarce jobs with 20 million illegals #285213ParticipantFLU, I greatly favor legal immigration of highly qualified smart people. Why? Because it will probably make me wealthier, and I will have more people to make my good friends. Perhaps because I am conservative, my social circle is dominated by a few nationalities sometimes associated with high educational achievement, high savings, business sense, trustworthiness, loyalty…
ParticipantSan Francisco is the real New Amsterdam. I love it, publicdefender.
I am with you on the sense that things were totally ungrounded for the last 10 years. There needed to be a reorientation. That’s occurring. It’s rough while it lasts, but it’s good that it’s happening, and things will be better than the last 10 years when it’s done. Yes, there will be less bling, but there will be plenty of good food, good teachers, decent (but smaller) homes…. Not a bad world, I think, if our politicians don’t screw it up totally by trying to prevent/minimize the changes.
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