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April 24, 2009 at 5:48 PM in reply to: OT: There’s never been a better time to buy a GM car…. #387183April 24, 2009 at 5:48 PM in reply to: OT: There’s never been a better time to buy a GM car…. #387381
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Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=AN][quote=Hatfield]
Yawn. Skidpad is just one test. Like 0-60, it doesn’t mean that much in isolation. Slalom time is a better measure. Or lap time. Even better yet, just drive both cars. I did. Did you? I bought the 911. Haven’t regretted it.[/quote]
If the 911 was branded as a Ford, would you still buy it? For the price of a loaded Z06, all you can get is a base 911 w/ no option. Z06 would KILL the 911 in ANY performance test you want to throw at it. The only test it’ll fail in is the interior quality and brand snobbery.[/quote]AN: Bingo. I’ve also heard your hairpiece fits better in a Porschie and your Rolex looks shinier. Something to do with the way the light hits that superior German workmanship. Sheesh. Well, this is why they pay those clowns on Madison Avenue all that money: Sell the status, not the product.
[/quote]My brother-in-law is a retired (German) engineer for a German car company. Buys mostly Toyotas for himself, but does wax lyrical about the quality of “what you can’t see” in some of the better German marques. I’m sure the GM guys do the same.
April 24, 2009 at 5:48 PM in reply to: OT: There’s never been a better time to buy a GM car…. #387434Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=AN][quote=Hatfield]
Yawn. Skidpad is just one test. Like 0-60, it doesn’t mean that much in isolation. Slalom time is a better measure. Or lap time. Even better yet, just drive both cars. I did. Did you? I bought the 911. Haven’t regretted it.[/quote]
If the 911 was branded as a Ford, would you still buy it? For the price of a loaded Z06, all you can get is a base 911 w/ no option. Z06 would KILL the 911 in ANY performance test you want to throw at it. The only test it’ll fail in is the interior quality and brand snobbery.[/quote]AN: Bingo. I’ve also heard your hairpiece fits better in a Porschie and your Rolex looks shinier. Something to do with the way the light hits that superior German workmanship. Sheesh. Well, this is why they pay those clowns on Madison Avenue all that money: Sell the status, not the product.
[/quote]My brother-in-law is a retired (German) engineer for a German car company. Buys mostly Toyotas for himself, but does wax lyrical about the quality of “what you can’t see” in some of the better German marques. I’m sure the GM guys do the same.
April 24, 2009 at 5:48 PM in reply to: OT: There’s never been a better time to buy a GM car…. #387576Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook][quote=AN][quote=Hatfield]
Yawn. Skidpad is just one test. Like 0-60, it doesn’t mean that much in isolation. Slalom time is a better measure. Or lap time. Even better yet, just drive both cars. I did. Did you? I bought the 911. Haven’t regretted it.[/quote]
If the 911 was branded as a Ford, would you still buy it? For the price of a loaded Z06, all you can get is a base 911 w/ no option. Z06 would KILL the 911 in ANY performance test you want to throw at it. The only test it’ll fail in is the interior quality and brand snobbery.[/quote]AN: Bingo. I’ve also heard your hairpiece fits better in a Porschie and your Rolex looks shinier. Something to do with the way the light hits that superior German workmanship. Sheesh. Well, this is why they pay those clowns on Madison Avenue all that money: Sell the status, not the product.
[/quote]My brother-in-law is a retired (German) engineer for a German car company. Buys mostly Toyotas for himself, but does wax lyrical about the quality of “what you can’t see” in some of the better German marques. I’m sure the GM guys do the same.
ParticipantI have an even better idea. It’s not savings that kill our economy, it’s the savers. So just shoot the people who save the most. Kills two birds with one stone: reduces overpopulation and stimulates the economy the way Krugman and all the other pols and economists want.
To avoid too many complaints and.. messiness, just announce you’ll shoot one person each year from each zip code – the person who saves the most.
ParticipantI have an even better idea. It’s not savings that kill our economy, it’s the savers. So just shoot the people who save the most. Kills two birds with one stone: reduces overpopulation and stimulates the economy the way Krugman and all the other pols and economists want.
To avoid too many complaints and.. messiness, just announce you’ll shoot one person each year from each zip code – the person who saves the most.
ParticipantI have an even better idea. It’s not savings that kill our economy, it’s the savers. So just shoot the people who save the most. Kills two birds with one stone: reduces overpopulation and stimulates the economy the way Krugman and all the other pols and economists want.
To avoid too many complaints and.. messiness, just announce you’ll shoot one person each year from each zip code – the person who saves the most.
ParticipantI have an even better idea. It’s not savings that kill our economy, it’s the savers. So just shoot the people who save the most. Kills two birds with one stone: reduces overpopulation and stimulates the economy the way Krugman and all the other pols and economists want.
To avoid too many complaints and.. messiness, just announce you’ll shoot one person each year from each zip code – the person who saves the most.
ParticipantI have an even better idea. It’s not savings that kill our economy, it’s the savers. So just shoot the people who save the most. Kills two birds with one stone: reduces overpopulation and stimulates the economy the way Krugman and all the other pols and economists want.
To avoid too many complaints and.. messiness, just announce you’ll shoot one person each year from each zip code – the person who saves the most.
April 23, 2009 at 4:44 PM in reply to: OT: There’s never been a better time to buy a GM car…. #386353Participant[quote=Eugene]…
To be fair, Z06 Corvette costs about the same as basic 911. And it’s not smaller. ’09 Z06 is 176 x 76 in, ’09 911 is 176 x 71 in. They weigh about the same. However, Z06 has 50% more horsepower.Pontiac G8 is in interesting vehicle but it’s just way too heavy. 3300 lb 335i with a basic $1000 ECU upgrade would hold its own in a straight line against stock Corvette (non-Z06) and leave 4000+ lb G8 GXP in the dust.[/quote]
Yeah, but the Pontiac goes all the way to 11.
April 23, 2009 at 4:44 PM in reply to: OT: There’s never been a better time to buy a GM car…. #386618Participant[quote=Eugene]…
To be fair, Z06 Corvette costs about the same as basic 911. And it’s not smaller. ’09 Z06 is 176 x 76 in, ’09 911 is 176 x 71 in. They weigh about the same. However, Z06 has 50% more horsepower.Pontiac G8 is in interesting vehicle but it’s just way too heavy. 3300 lb 335i with a basic $1000 ECU upgrade would hold its own in a straight line against stock Corvette (non-Z06) and leave 4000+ lb G8 GXP in the dust.[/quote]
Yeah, but the Pontiac goes all the way to 11.
April 23, 2009 at 4:44 PM in reply to: OT: There’s never been a better time to buy a GM car…. #386813Participant[quote=Eugene]…
To be fair, Z06 Corvette costs about the same as basic 911. And it’s not smaller. ’09 Z06 is 176 x 76 in, ’09 911 is 176 x 71 in. They weigh about the same. However, Z06 has 50% more horsepower.Pontiac G8 is in interesting vehicle but it’s just way too heavy. 3300 lb 335i with a basic $1000 ECU upgrade would hold its own in a straight line against stock Corvette (non-Z06) and leave 4000+ lb G8 GXP in the dust.[/quote]
Yeah, but the Pontiac goes all the way to 11.
April 23, 2009 at 4:44 PM in reply to: OT: There’s never been a better time to buy a GM car…. #386861Participant[quote=Eugene]…
To be fair, Z06 Corvette costs about the same as basic 911. And it’s not smaller. ’09 Z06 is 176 x 76 in, ’09 911 is 176 x 71 in. They weigh about the same. However, Z06 has 50% more horsepower.Pontiac G8 is in interesting vehicle but it’s just way too heavy. 3300 lb 335i with a basic $1000 ECU upgrade would hold its own in a straight line against stock Corvette (non-Z06) and leave 4000+ lb G8 GXP in the dust.[/quote]
Yeah, but the Pontiac goes all the way to 11.
April 23, 2009 at 4:44 PM in reply to: OT: There’s never been a better time to buy a GM car…. #386998Participant[quote=Eugene]…
To be fair, Z06 Corvette costs about the same as basic 911. And it’s not smaller. ’09 Z06 is 176 x 76 in, ’09 911 is 176 x 71 in. They weigh about the same. However, Z06 has 50% more horsepower.Pontiac G8 is in interesting vehicle but it’s just way too heavy. 3300 lb 335i with a basic $1000 ECU upgrade would hold its own in a straight line against stock Corvette (non-Z06) and leave 4000+ lb G8 GXP in the dust.[/quote]
Yeah, but the Pontiac goes all the way to 11.
Participantsdr, you did kinda leave a question open with that comment that your friend doesn’t see a lot more REOs coming on the market any time soon. What made him say that? (I assume you asked him, being curious.)
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