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ParticipantI think that people who own a certain share of wealth should contribute a commensurate share to the society that creates the wealth and protects the value of that wealth.
If you go back to early feudal times, the Lord of the land owned the land but it was his responsibility to provide protection and food during lean time to his subjects. It was also the Lord’s responsibility to hold feasts and celebrations during holidays. Over time, that contract was broken and that created revolution.
If a group owns 95% of the wealth, it would be fair for that group to pay 95% of the taxes.
ParticipantI think that people who own a certain share of wealth should contribute a commensurate share to the society that creates the wealth and protects the value of that wealth.
If you go back to early feudal times, the Lord of the land owned the land but it was his responsibility to provide protection and food during lean time to his subjects. It was also the Lord’s responsibility to hold feasts and celebrations during holidays. Over time, that contract was broken and that created revolution.
If a group owns 95% of the wealth, it would be fair for that group to pay 95% of the taxes.
ParticipantI think that people who own a certain share of wealth should contribute a commensurate share to the society that creates the wealth and protects the value of that wealth.
If you go back to early feudal times, the Lord of the land owned the land but it was his responsibility to provide protection and food during lean time to his subjects. It was also the Lord’s responsibility to hold feasts and celebrations during holidays. Over time, that contract was broken and that created revolution.
If a group owns 95% of the wealth, it would be fair for that group to pay 95% of the taxes.
ParticipantI think that people who own a certain share of wealth should contribute a commensurate share to the society that creates the wealth and protects the value of that wealth.
If you go back to early feudal times, the Lord of the land owned the land but it was his responsibility to provide protection and food during lean time to his subjects. It was also the Lord’s responsibility to hold feasts and celebrations during holidays. Over time, that contract was broken and that created revolution.
If a group owns 95% of the wealth, it would be fair for that group to pay 95% of the taxes.
Participant[quote=TheBreeze]
Here’s an update on ‘Joe’ the plumber:
His current income is $40K per year. He would actually pay less taxes under Obama’s plan than under McCain’s. The business he wants to buy only grosses $100K, so even if he did buy the business, he would still pay less under Obama’s plan than under McCain’s
Plus, he may or may not be related to Charles Keating, he of the Keating Five scandal.
http://www.kcbs.com/Leaks-in-Joe-the-Plumber-s-Story/3156534
McCain should have done a little more vetting before he decided to make Joe famous. Basically everything that McCain railed on in his debate last night vis-a-vis ‘Joe’ is wrong and Joe will be better off under an Obama administration.
How could anyone vote for McCain? The guy just exudes incompetence.
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Ok, so the business grosses $100k/year. Joe makes about $40k. What does the other person, the owner, make? You would think that the owner makes more than his employee.
What about expenses such as trucks, fuels, supplies, etc…? What about payroll taxes? Have those been paid?
Participant[quote=TheBreeze]
Here’s an update on ‘Joe’ the plumber:
His current income is $40K per year. He would actually pay less taxes under Obama’s plan than under McCain’s. The business he wants to buy only grosses $100K, so even if he did buy the business, he would still pay less under Obama’s plan than under McCain’s
Plus, he may or may not be related to Charles Keating, he of the Keating Five scandal.
http://www.kcbs.com/Leaks-in-Joe-the-Plumber-s-Story/3156534
McCain should have done a little more vetting before he decided to make Joe famous. Basically everything that McCain railed on in his debate last night vis-a-vis ‘Joe’ is wrong and Joe will be better off under an Obama administration.
How could anyone vote for McCain? The guy just exudes incompetence.
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Ok, so the business grosses $100k/year. Joe makes about $40k. What does the other person, the owner, make? You would think that the owner makes more than his employee.
What about expenses such as trucks, fuels, supplies, etc…? What about payroll taxes? Have those been paid?
Participant[quote=TheBreeze]
Here’s an update on ‘Joe’ the plumber:
His current income is $40K per year. He would actually pay less taxes under Obama’s plan than under McCain’s. The business he wants to buy only grosses $100K, so even if he did buy the business, he would still pay less under Obama’s plan than under McCain’s
Plus, he may or may not be related to Charles Keating, he of the Keating Five scandal.
http://www.kcbs.com/Leaks-in-Joe-the-Plumber-s-Story/3156534
McCain should have done a little more vetting before he decided to make Joe famous. Basically everything that McCain railed on in his debate last night vis-a-vis ‘Joe’ is wrong and Joe will be better off under an Obama administration.
How could anyone vote for McCain? The guy just exudes incompetence.
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Ok, so the business grosses $100k/year. Joe makes about $40k. What does the other person, the owner, make? You would think that the owner makes more than his employee.
What about expenses such as trucks, fuels, supplies, etc…? What about payroll taxes? Have those been paid?
Participant[quote=TheBreeze]
Here’s an update on ‘Joe’ the plumber:
His current income is $40K per year. He would actually pay less taxes under Obama’s plan than under McCain’s. The business he wants to buy only grosses $100K, so even if he did buy the business, he would still pay less under Obama’s plan than under McCain’s
Plus, he may or may not be related to Charles Keating, he of the Keating Five scandal.
http://www.kcbs.com/Leaks-in-Joe-the-Plumber-s-Story/3156534
McCain should have done a little more vetting before he decided to make Joe famous. Basically everything that McCain railed on in his debate last night vis-a-vis ‘Joe’ is wrong and Joe will be better off under an Obama administration.
How could anyone vote for McCain? The guy just exudes incompetence.
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Ok, so the business grosses $100k/year. Joe makes about $40k. What does the other person, the owner, make? You would think that the owner makes more than his employee.
What about expenses such as trucks, fuels, supplies, etc…? What about payroll taxes? Have those been paid?
Participant[quote=TheBreeze]
Here’s an update on ‘Joe’ the plumber:
His current income is $40K per year. He would actually pay less taxes under Obama’s plan than under McCain’s. The business he wants to buy only grosses $100K, so even if he did buy the business, he would still pay less under Obama’s plan than under McCain’s
Plus, he may or may not be related to Charles Keating, he of the Keating Five scandal.
http://www.kcbs.com/Leaks-in-Joe-the-Plumber-s-Story/3156534
McCain should have done a little more vetting before he decided to make Joe famous. Basically everything that McCain railed on in his debate last night vis-a-vis ‘Joe’ is wrong and Joe will be better off under an Obama administration.
How could anyone vote for McCain? The guy just exudes incompetence.
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Ok, so the business grosses $100k/year. Joe makes about $40k. What does the other person, the owner, make? You would think that the owner makes more than his employee.
What about expenses such as trucks, fuels, supplies, etc…? What about payroll taxes? Have those been paid?
ParticipantLet’s get back to Joe the Plumber, shall we?
It appears that he makes about $40,000/year and is not planning to buy the business of two persons (the owner and him).
Joe does not have a plumbing license so he would have to employ a licensed plumber while he would simply manage the business.
It seems to me like Joe is the dead weight that can be eliminated.
I doubt those two individuals have health insurance.
So let’s see some arguments on why Joe the Plumber would support John McCain.
Why do people in Nebraska support Republicans? Why do the military making low wages support the Republicans? Do you know why many veterans don’t have teeth? Because the VA does not offer dental insurance (unless you have a minimum number of years in the service) so they just have them all pulled out!
Why do poor Cuban immigrants vote Republican?
We have a large portion of the population that really need to get their heads examined. Wait, they don’t have mental health insurance!
ParticipantLet’s get back to Joe the Plumber, shall we?
It appears that he makes about $40,000/year and is not planning to buy the business of two persons (the owner and him).
Joe does not have a plumbing license so he would have to employ a licensed plumber while he would simply manage the business.
It seems to me like Joe is the dead weight that can be eliminated.
I doubt those two individuals have health insurance.
So let’s see some arguments on why Joe the Plumber would support John McCain.
Why do people in Nebraska support Republicans? Why do the military making low wages support the Republicans? Do you know why many veterans don’t have teeth? Because the VA does not offer dental insurance (unless you have a minimum number of years in the service) so they just have them all pulled out!
Why do poor Cuban immigrants vote Republican?
We have a large portion of the population that really need to get their heads examined. Wait, they don’t have mental health insurance!
ParticipantLet’s get back to Joe the Plumber, shall we?
It appears that he makes about $40,000/year and is not planning to buy the business of two persons (the owner and him).
Joe does not have a plumbing license so he would have to employ a licensed plumber while he would simply manage the business.
It seems to me like Joe is the dead weight that can be eliminated.
I doubt those two individuals have health insurance.
So let’s see some arguments on why Joe the Plumber would support John McCain.
Why do people in Nebraska support Republicans? Why do the military making low wages support the Republicans? Do you know why many veterans don’t have teeth? Because the VA does not offer dental insurance (unless you have a minimum number of years in the service) so they just have them all pulled out!
Why do poor Cuban immigrants vote Republican?
We have a large portion of the population that really need to get their heads examined. Wait, they don’t have mental health insurance!
ParticipantLet’s get back to Joe the Plumber, shall we?
It appears that he makes about $40,000/year and is not planning to buy the business of two persons (the owner and him).
Joe does not have a plumbing license so he would have to employ a licensed plumber while he would simply manage the business.
It seems to me like Joe is the dead weight that can be eliminated.
I doubt those two individuals have health insurance.
So let’s see some arguments on why Joe the Plumber would support John McCain.
Why do people in Nebraska support Republicans? Why do the military making low wages support the Republicans? Do you know why many veterans don’t have teeth? Because the VA does not offer dental insurance (unless you have a minimum number of years in the service) so they just have them all pulled out!
Why do poor Cuban immigrants vote Republican?
We have a large portion of the population that really need to get their heads examined. Wait, they don’t have mental health insurance!
ParticipantLet’s get back to Joe the Plumber, shall we?
It appears that he makes about $40,000/year and is not planning to buy the business of two persons (the owner and him).
Joe does not have a plumbing license so he would have to employ a licensed plumber while he would simply manage the business.
It seems to me like Joe is the dead weight that can be eliminated.
I doubt those two individuals have health insurance.
So let’s see some arguments on why Joe the Plumber would support John McCain.
Why do people in Nebraska support Republicans? Why do the military making low wages support the Republicans? Do you know why many veterans don’t have teeth? Because the VA does not offer dental insurance (unless you have a minimum number of years in the service) so they just have them all pulled out!
Why do poor Cuban immigrants vote Republican?
We have a large portion of the population that really need to get their heads examined. Wait, they don’t have mental health insurance!
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