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January 22, 2012 at 10:59 PM in reply to: Ron Paul supporters – assuring Obama’s reelection? #736587
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Participant[quote=poorgradstudent][quote=paramount]After President Obama signed the NDAA on New Years Eve, I can’t imagine why ANYONE would vote for Obama. Regardless of political leanings…[/quote]
Do you think Romney or Gingrich would have vetoed it?In a two party system where both options agree on an issue, it’s not an issue.[/quote]
We’ll never know, but what I do know is that Obama didn’t.
And, it is an issue for me – when I think of the genuine sacrifice made in the name of freedom; and then for some despot to sign a law that not only violates the constitution (IMO), but also dishonors those sacrifices all I can say is that it’s an absolute disgrace.
It is an issue, and a major one at that.
January 22, 2012 at 10:21 PM in reply to: Ron Paul supporters – assuring Obama’s reelection? #736583ParticipantAfter President Obama signed the NDAA on New Years Eve, I can’t imagine why ANYONE would vote for Obama. Regardless of political leanings…
ParticipantIt’s over – Romney is the nominee regardless of today’s news, selected by the PTB b/c more than anything he is viewed as the most electable.
And he is clearly on board with the establishment.
Participant[quote=Essbee]Thank you.
It confirms that the agent we are working with almost certainly makes more than we do. (Which is what we thought all along.) Well, good for her![/quote]
Are you surprised? Realtor’s made tons of money on the way up, and plenty on the way down.
With the exception of the banks, realtor’s came out on top as usual – even in the midst of a housing collapse.
The “system” is rigged from top to bottom with a goal of sucking as much money from the masses as possible.
Participant[quote=eyePod]I’m not torn. They need to CUT THE BUDGET including CUT THE EMPLOYEE/UNION BENEFITS ESPECIALLY PENSIONS. [/quote]
That’s the biggest issue in a nutshell.
I heard Gov. Brown on kfi this morning, and he defended the abuses by California Public Employee Unions to the bitter end.
Breaking California Public Employee unions is not going to be easy, but please for the future of California and for the sake of Justice we have to keep beating this drum.
Don’t give up!
Don’t cave in to the fear supplied by the public employee unions!
Justice will Prevail!!
Participant[quote=walterwhite]Ah well. Kia honored their 10 y warranty on my Sedona problem after hemming and hawing a bit so I guess I won’t get a BMW.[/quote]
Kia’s, Toyota’s, Honda, Ford etc…are great cars. But they are appliance cars.
A Kia, like Honda and Toyota, Ford, etc…are like a mule. Whereas a BMW is more like Secretariat, and with the headaches that go along with a thoroughbred.
Participant[quote=temeculaguy]
There is one more issue only for me, being in temecula, if I end up with a cpo or one still under warranty, the infiniti dealer is 30 miles away, there is a bmw dealer in town. That’s only a factor for me, but it is a factor.[/quote]
TG: I bought my 328 at BMW of Murrieta, and in all honesty/objectivity I would not buy from them again.
Based on some personal knowledge I would look at BMW of Escondido; but then just have warranty repairs done at BMW Murrieta.
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ParticipantFWIW, I drive every other day in a G, and it was on my short list as was the 300 SRT8. I think the point AN misses is that yes a G37 might perform better, but performance numbers don’t tell the whole story.
It’s the total package IMO that must be considered.
The BMW 3.0 engine is the best non exotic 6 in the world, period. The handling and feel of a BMW is unmatched by Infiniti or Lexus.
I really like the G37 Limited Edition Sedan, but I think that is 50k plus.
When I was considering the G and the SRT8, I just kept thinking why not just own the best? BMW Baby!
It is likely that a 328 will have less maintenance issues than a 335, and the one I got is pretty basic – the only option was the sport transmission.
Most importantly, I hope to pass on the 328 to my son one day, and I thought the 335 would be a little much for an inexperienced driver.
For the last 4 years I’ve been driving a beat up old Saturn (no heat or AC), so a 328 is big step up.
I’m actually considering a X5 for my wife in a year or two, I guess I am a BMW fanboi.
ParticipantAnd btw, if you ever see a 328 blowing by you on the carpool lanes, it could just be me seeing you in my rear view mirror.
ParticipantI fully agree that a G37 is a very close 2nd to the 328i; but in no way believe that a G37 will out handle a 328i.
The problem in competing with a 3 series is that you just can’t throw horsepower and expect to beat BMW. It’s not about sheer power. For the price, the 3 series is damn near automotive perfection. Often imitated but never duplicated, you’ll never fall asleep at the wheel driving a 3 series
I’m not trying to start a fight, but the 3 Series – even the lowly 328 – has no peer. They are the best at what they do, period.
Check CD, Edmunds, MT…the list goes on and on, year after year – the 3 series (yes, even the 328) is the best in it’s category.
No other manufacturer makes an engine (in it’s category) that can compare to the “sublime” 3.o inline 6 cylinder. But of course the 3 series is so much more than the motor.
Check Wards list of the top ten engines – you will find the BMW 3.0 inline 6 there at the top nearly every year.
No, no – the G37 is very good, but the 328i/335i holds it’s rightful place on the Throne.
Participant[quote=sdrealtor]I’m just under 6 ft and leg room isn’t even close to a question. Getting in can be a bit of a challenge when the old bones are aching but it’s not my every day car either. When I’m driving it’s blissful. With that said I’m sure the Porsche is amazing to drive also. Sit in the cars and take them for a ride. The tw siting it takes to get in is less of a concern when it’s not your daily ride. Go for the driving experience.
Btw, if you want to drive mine let me know. You ca n take it for. A nice ride without the whole test drive thing.[/quote]
I’m 6-1 (or I used to be) and it takes a bit of effort to get into and out of the 328, but once in there is plenty of room.
The 3 Series are very low to the ground which contributes to ingress/egress difficulties as pointed out in CD.
However, that low stance will help put a smile on your face, trust me on that.
Participant[quote=AN]I subscribe to C&D and it is pretty well known that they prefer BMW. If you read the comparison carefully, you’ll see the 328 is much slower but it win because it gets better fuel economy.[/quote]
I wouldn’t say it’s much slower – I’d bet the 328i has a higher top speed and DOES have better handling.
Sure, 0-60 the G37 is faster (straight line) – in the twists I’d bet that power advantage rapidly disappears.
While my car was in the shop (due bill’s, not a breakdown) I had a 328i and it would churp in 2nd gear.
A 328i is definitely not slow.
Anyway, back to the review (328i vs. G37):
The fuel economy was the only “performance” category the 328i won. But that’s not why it won.
It won for a number of reasons: handling, it’s near perfect balance and many other reasons.
But there is one very special thing that the 328i/335 and other BMW’s have that the G37 does not: the magic of Double-VANOS.
ParticipantPer C&D and many, many others, the 328 is the definitive sports sedan.
Even vs. the G37 the 328i comes out on top:
“What the 328i does better than its peers is combine the ingredients of the perfect sports sedan: driving dynamics and luxury.”
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