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paddyoh
Participant[quote=paddyoh]
In case you forgot, my original title for this forum was:
“Time for Jeff Bridges to dump Hyundai….”
The topic understandably turned to automobiles, manufacturers, etc. – which was fine by me. I’ve made it clear that I agree with Rt. 66 and his/her belief in buying American made cars, etc. He has made his case so thoroughly I honestly do not know what I can add to defend the documented quality of the American made automobile or the mass screwing of the American blue collar worker.
The bigger picture to me has become American apathy towards American Made goods – particularly cars manufactured in the U.S.A.
It just baffles me that there is so much venom spewed by Americans against American auto workers and American made cars. It would seem that much of that comes from outright jealousy that the American auto worker had the nerve to make a decent enough wage to own a home and send his or her kids to college. That jealousy is then channeled towards the American car itself.
Then there appears to be guilt. The shame of, in a way, selling out one’s own country during a time of nearly unparalleled crisis, by buying a third world automobile and then trying to justify it by blaming it on unfounded, inferior American quality.
There are no doubt people here who have purchased an American made car that turned out to be a lemon. They have a legitimate gripe and may never buy anything other than an imported car again.
But, all the jealousy, guilt, shame, anger or whatever else is the motivation, does not change the fact that we are all still Americans. Maybe, at the end of the day, we can stop sweating the small stuff and pull together to help fix what the politicians cannot.
By buying American again, or even consciously making an effort to buy American made again, right now, today, even if it hurts or costs more, we can make a tiny step forward in restoring our sorely-needed manufacturing base. Americans did it during the World Wars. Why not now ?
Given the pickle we are in, I don’t think you can consider it protectionism. Nor blind patriotism, or being foolish with your money. Right now, today, it just makes sense.
Please take a few minutes of your time to ask Jeff Bridges to use his clout as a major celebrity and publicly renounce the Hyundai commercials and jump on the American Made bandwagon.
http://nicko62.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3268355%5B/quote%5D
paddyoh
Participant[quote=paddyoh]
In case you forgot, my original title for this forum was:
“Time for Jeff Bridges to dump Hyundai….”
The topic understandably turned to automobiles, manufacturers, etc. – which was fine by me. I’ve made it clear that I agree with Rt. 66 and his/her belief in buying American made cars, etc. He has made his case so thoroughly I honestly do not know what I can add to defend the documented quality of the American made automobile or the mass screwing of the American blue collar worker.
The bigger picture to me has become American apathy towards American Made goods – particularly cars manufactured in the U.S.A.
It just baffles me that there is so much venom spewed by Americans against American auto workers and American made cars. It would seem that much of that comes from outright jealousy that the American auto worker had the nerve to make a decent enough wage to own a home and send his or her kids to college. That jealousy is then channeled towards the American car itself.
Then there appears to be guilt. The shame of, in a way, selling out one’s own country during a time of nearly unparalleled crisis, by buying a third world automobile and then trying to justify it by blaming it on unfounded, inferior American quality.
There are no doubt people here who have purchased an American made car that turned out to be a lemon. They have a legitimate gripe and may never buy anything other than an imported car again.
But, all the jealousy, guilt, shame, anger or whatever else is the motivation, does not change the fact that we are all still Americans. Maybe, at the end of the day, we can stop sweating the small stuff and pull together to help fix what the politicians cannot.
By buying American again, or even consciously making an effort to buy American made again, right now, today, even if it hurts or costs more, we can make a tiny step forward in restoring our sorely-needed manufacturing base. Americans did it during the World Wars. Why not now ?
Given the pickle we are in, I don’t think you can consider it protectionism. Nor blind patriotism, or being foolish with your money. Right now, today, it just makes sense.
Please take a few minutes of your time to ask Jeff Bridges to use his clout as a major celebrity and publicly renounce the Hyundai commercials and jump on the American Made bandwagon.
http://nicko62.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3268355%5B/quote%5D
paddyoh
Participant[quote=paddyoh]
In case you forgot, my original title for this forum was:
“Time for Jeff Bridges to dump Hyundai….”
The topic understandably turned to automobiles, manufacturers, etc. – which was fine by me. I’ve made it clear that I agree with Rt. 66 and his/her belief in buying American made cars, etc. He has made his case so thoroughly I honestly do not know what I can add to defend the documented quality of the American made automobile or the mass screwing of the American blue collar worker.
The bigger picture to me has become American apathy towards American Made goods – particularly cars manufactured in the U.S.A.
It just baffles me that there is so much venom spewed by Americans against American auto workers and American made cars. It would seem that much of that comes from outright jealousy that the American auto worker had the nerve to make a decent enough wage to own a home and send his or her kids to college. That jealousy is then channeled towards the American car itself.
Then there appears to be guilt. The shame of, in a way, selling out one’s own country during a time of nearly unparalleled crisis, by buying a third world automobile and then trying to justify it by blaming it on unfounded, inferior American quality.
There are no doubt people here who have purchased an American made car that turned out to be a lemon. They have a legitimate gripe and may never buy anything other than an imported car again.
But, all the jealousy, guilt, shame, anger or whatever else is the motivation, does not change the fact that we are all still Americans. Maybe, at the end of the day, we can stop sweating the small stuff and pull together to help fix what the politicians cannot.
By buying American again, or even consciously making an effort to buy American made again, right now, today, even if it hurts or costs more, we can make a tiny step forward in restoring our sorely-needed manufacturing base. Americans did it during the World Wars. Why not now ?
Given the pickle we are in, I don’t think you can consider it protectionism. Nor blind patriotism, or being foolish with your money. Right now, today, it just makes sense.
Please take a few minutes of your time to ask Jeff Bridges to use his clout as a major celebrity and publicly renounce the Hyundai commercials and jump on the American Made bandwagon.
http://nicko62.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3268355%5B/quote%5D
paddyoh
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Allan:
Scarlet/Rt.66 slam-dunked, de-bunked, and out-funked you and Flu’s lame arguments throughout these 7 pages hands down. No bones about it.
Time out. You and Flu lose. Go back and read the proof.
Why are you two still here ?
I hope you realize you are on the wrong side of things in this forum and take the time to politely ask Jeff Bridges to resign from the Hyundai ads and resume work for the good guys.
http://nicko62.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3268355
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I truly cannot believe you are back here Allan.
You said you were done two pages ago. Do I have to send that admission to you AGAIN ?
I honestly do not want to get into a name calling thing here. I am trying to focus on getting something positive done.
But, you appear to be a self-serving windbag who likes to hear himself talk, and talk, and talk, and talk…..and you never say anything coherent.
Scarlet/ Rt 66 stuffed you BAD and it’s time for you to move on.
Sorry. I don’t know how else to put it.
Close your yap for 10 minutes and actually do something that might make a difference in our sad situation here in America.
Respectfully ask Jeff Bridges to dump the Hyundai voice-overs and come back to the home team.
Go here and sign on:
http://nicko62.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3268355
For the love of PETE man….shut yer pie hole !
paddyoh
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Allan:
Scarlet/Rt.66 slam-dunked, de-bunked, and out-funked you and Flu’s lame arguments throughout these 7 pages hands down. No bones about it.
Time out. You and Flu lose. Go back and read the proof.
Why are you two still here ?
I hope you realize you are on the wrong side of things in this forum and take the time to politely ask Jeff Bridges to resign from the Hyundai ads and resume work for the good guys.
http://nicko62.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3268355
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I truly cannot believe you are back here Allan.
You said you were done two pages ago. Do I have to send that admission to you AGAIN ?
I honestly do not want to get into a name calling thing here. I am trying to focus on getting something positive done.
But, you appear to be a self-serving windbag who likes to hear himself talk, and talk, and talk, and talk…..and you never say anything coherent.
Scarlet/ Rt 66 stuffed you BAD and it’s time for you to move on.
Sorry. I don’t know how else to put it.
Close your yap for 10 minutes and actually do something that might make a difference in our sad situation here in America.
Respectfully ask Jeff Bridges to dump the Hyundai voice-overs and come back to the home team.
Go here and sign on:
http://nicko62.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3268355
For the love of PETE man….shut yer pie hole !
paddyoh
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Allan:
Scarlet/Rt.66 slam-dunked, de-bunked, and out-funked you and Flu’s lame arguments throughout these 7 pages hands down. No bones about it.
Time out. You and Flu lose. Go back and read the proof.
Why are you two still here ?
I hope you realize you are on the wrong side of things in this forum and take the time to politely ask Jeff Bridges to resign from the Hyundai ads and resume work for the good guys.
http://nicko62.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3268355
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I truly cannot believe you are back here Allan.
You said you were done two pages ago. Do I have to send that admission to you AGAIN ?
I honestly do not want to get into a name calling thing here. I am trying to focus on getting something positive done.
But, you appear to be a self-serving windbag who likes to hear himself talk, and talk, and talk, and talk…..and you never say anything coherent.
Scarlet/ Rt 66 stuffed you BAD and it’s time for you to move on.
Sorry. I don’t know how else to put it.
Close your yap for 10 minutes and actually do something that might make a difference in our sad situation here in America.
Respectfully ask Jeff Bridges to dump the Hyundai voice-overs and come back to the home team.
Go here and sign on:
http://nicko62.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3268355
For the love of PETE man….shut yer pie hole !
paddyoh
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Allan:
Scarlet/Rt.66 slam-dunked, de-bunked, and out-funked you and Flu’s lame arguments throughout these 7 pages hands down. No bones about it.
Time out. You and Flu lose. Go back and read the proof.
Why are you two still here ?
I hope you realize you are on the wrong side of things in this forum and take the time to politely ask Jeff Bridges to resign from the Hyundai ads and resume work for the good guys.
http://nicko62.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3268355
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I truly cannot believe you are back here Allan.
You said you were done two pages ago. Do I have to send that admission to you AGAIN ?
I honestly do not want to get into a name calling thing here. I am trying to focus on getting something positive done.
But, you appear to be a self-serving windbag who likes to hear himself talk, and talk, and talk, and talk…..and you never say anything coherent.
Scarlet/ Rt 66 stuffed you BAD and it’s time for you to move on.
Sorry. I don’t know how else to put it.
Close your yap for 10 minutes and actually do something that might make a difference in our sad situation here in America.
Respectfully ask Jeff Bridges to dump the Hyundai voice-overs and come back to the home team.
Go here and sign on:
http://nicko62.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3268355
For the love of PETE man….shut yer pie hole !
paddyoh
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Allan:
Scarlet/Rt.66 slam-dunked, de-bunked, and out-funked you and Flu’s lame arguments throughout these 7 pages hands down. No bones about it.
Time out. You and Flu lose. Go back and read the proof.
Why are you two still here ?
I hope you realize you are on the wrong side of things in this forum and take the time to politely ask Jeff Bridges to resign from the Hyundai ads and resume work for the good guys.
http://nicko62.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3268355
[/quote]
I truly cannot believe you are back here Allan.
You said you were done two pages ago. Do I have to send that admission to you AGAIN ?
I honestly do not want to get into a name calling thing here. I am trying to focus on getting something positive done.
But, you appear to be a self-serving windbag who likes to hear himself talk, and talk, and talk, and talk…..and you never say anything coherent.
Scarlet/ Rt 66 stuffed you BAD and it’s time for you to move on.
Sorry. I don’t know how else to put it.
Close your yap for 10 minutes and actually do something that might make a difference in our sad situation here in America.
Respectfully ask Jeff Bridges to dump the Hyundai voice-overs and come back to the home team.
Go here and sign on:
http://nicko62.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3268355
For the love of PETE man….shut yer pie hole !
paddyoh
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
That’s a doozy. [/quote]dba:
I focus on Hyundai so maybe I can actually get something positive done rather than just sit and complain about everyone, everything and who is to blame.
You should try it. π
It doesn’t matter any longer who / what is to blame for the crisis we are in. It’s time to actually do something about it.
I refuse to sit back this time around and see the Koreans take advantage of our stupidity like the Japanese were able to do in the 70’s.
I totally and absolutely believe in what I am trying to do and will not be swayed because a handful of complainers enjoy wasting their time throwing rocks at me.
Focused like a laser beam and steady as she goes.
Please take a few moments to join me in respectfully asking Jeff Bridges to deep six the undermining Hyundai ads and support the team that has supported him.
Go here and make yourself heard.
http://nicko62.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3268355
You might just make a positive difference. What do you have to lose but a few moments of your time ?
paddyoh
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
That’s a doozy. [/quote]dba:
I focus on Hyundai so maybe I can actually get something positive done rather than just sit and complain about everyone, everything and who is to blame.
You should try it. π
It doesn’t matter any longer who / what is to blame for the crisis we are in. It’s time to actually do something about it.
I refuse to sit back this time around and see the Koreans take advantage of our stupidity like the Japanese were able to do in the 70’s.
I totally and absolutely believe in what I am trying to do and will not be swayed because a handful of complainers enjoy wasting their time throwing rocks at me.
Focused like a laser beam and steady as she goes.
Please take a few moments to join me in respectfully asking Jeff Bridges to deep six the undermining Hyundai ads and support the team that has supported him.
Go here and make yourself heard.
http://nicko62.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3268355
You might just make a positive difference. What do you have to lose but a few moments of your time ?
paddyoh
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
That’s a doozy. [/quote]dba:
I focus on Hyundai so maybe I can actually get something positive done rather than just sit and complain about everyone, everything and who is to blame.
You should try it. π
It doesn’t matter any longer who / what is to blame for the crisis we are in. It’s time to actually do something about it.
I refuse to sit back this time around and see the Koreans take advantage of our stupidity like the Japanese were able to do in the 70’s.
I totally and absolutely believe in what I am trying to do and will not be swayed because a handful of complainers enjoy wasting their time throwing rocks at me.
Focused like a laser beam and steady as she goes.
Please take a few moments to join me in respectfully asking Jeff Bridges to deep six the undermining Hyundai ads and support the team that has supported him.
Go here and make yourself heard.
http://nicko62.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3268355
You might just make a positive difference. What do you have to lose but a few moments of your time ?
paddyoh
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
That’s a doozy. [/quote]dba:
I focus on Hyundai so maybe I can actually get something positive done rather than just sit and complain about everyone, everything and who is to blame.
You should try it. π
It doesn’t matter any longer who / what is to blame for the crisis we are in. It’s time to actually do something about it.
I refuse to sit back this time around and see the Koreans take advantage of our stupidity like the Japanese were able to do in the 70’s.
I totally and absolutely believe in what I am trying to do and will not be swayed because a handful of complainers enjoy wasting their time throwing rocks at me.
Focused like a laser beam and steady as she goes.
Please take a few moments to join me in respectfully asking Jeff Bridges to deep six the undermining Hyundai ads and support the team that has supported him.
Go here and make yourself heard.
http://nicko62.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3268355
You might just make a positive difference. What do you have to lose but a few moments of your time ?
paddyoh
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
That’s a doozy. [/quote]dba:
I focus on Hyundai so maybe I can actually get something positive done rather than just sit and complain about everyone, everything and who is to blame.
You should try it. π
It doesn’t matter any longer who / what is to blame for the crisis we are in. It’s time to actually do something about it.
I refuse to sit back this time around and see the Koreans take advantage of our stupidity like the Japanese were able to do in the 70’s.
I totally and absolutely believe in what I am trying to do and will not be swayed because a handful of complainers enjoy wasting their time throwing rocks at me.
Focused like a laser beam and steady as she goes.
Please take a few moments to join me in respectfully asking Jeff Bridges to deep six the undermining Hyundai ads and support the team that has supported him.
Go here and make yourself heard.
http://nicko62.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3268355
You might just make a positive difference. What do you have to lose but a few moments of your time ?
paddyoh
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]Paddy: I love it! That’s an Edsel, right? [/quote]
Allan:
Haha !
Yes, we had a beautiful Edsel when I was a kid. So did my cousin. My uncle bought one late in life and restored it.
They were beautiful. And yes, the Edsel was a dud.
Edsel was Henry Ford’s son’s name if I recall and it was his idea. Way ahead of it’s time. Push button auto in the center of the steering wheel.
They only lasted a few years but are worth an absolute fortune today.
The automobile is part of America’s tradition and we were the envy of the world in that department for many years until we allowed the imports to dump their cars here for less than cost (subsidized by their Govs).
And of course we all know how America couldn’t compete with the 3rd world wages, tariffs, etc, etc.
Boy did we get screwed !
Please take the time to ask Jeff Bridges to drop the Hyundai ads and come back to his home team.
America cannot afford to subsidize another foreign auto manufacturer to destroy what is left of our own.
Follow this link and make yourself heard:
http://nicko62.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=3268355
Don’t listen to the naysayers.
Your job may be next.
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