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[quote=Blogstar]Asians are historically not good at lobbying and should be given preference.

This debate should be focused on third grade students and younger. By the end of third grade , young ones should be ready for 4th, or else they are disadvantaged. Waiting until they are college age to rectify disadvantage is where all the trouble comes from.[/quote]

that’s the problem people don’t seem to get.

you get a guy that’s well suited for SDSU and bump him up so he can get to UCLA and he’s going to get burnt. Everything in college is graded on a bell shaped curve. So you pretty much just guarenteed he’ll be lagging behind the curve in college, and probaly eventually drop out.

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[quote=flu][quote=Blogstar]I am disadvantaged with touch control electronics devices. People with little hands must make them.[/quote]

Lol.. Thanks for making my laugh for today..[/quote]

I think that’s also why Asian doctors are preferred…

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[quote=flu][quote=ocrenter][quote=flu]….this will be a constitutional issue eventually…
It’s unavoidable..

http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/24/politics/scotus-texas-affirmative-action/
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Agree, I followed that case with eager anticipation last year, was not too pleased when they essentially just avoided the issue.

I think it all goes to the fear of the “yellow plague” dominating the upper crust of society. They are perfectly fine letting the Jews dominate because at the end, they are still white.[/quote]

I’m not sure it’s that really. I think it’s more of the path of least resistance. I think some of our politicians were gambling on the fact that asians would just take it and move on…What’s more surprising to me is which politicians it’s coming out of…. I mean some of these fine politicians sure seem to be doing a pretty fine job of setting back civil rights 50+years or so…..

The most hypocritical thing about this is at the same time UC regents are heavily recruiting foreign students from asia..Simply because the can pay the full tuition cost….The irony….[/quote]

And they were right, we did just take it and move on. And remember, thousands of AA students get discriminated by state schools and IVY league quotas every year, but it took a white girl to fight our fight to the Supreme Court.

I don’t think they look at us any differently. The 4th Gen Japanese or Cantonese applying to UC are just making their racial stats look bad, at least the Corrupt Chinese official’s kid has to pay the Max non-resident tuition.

The civil rights leaders never had AA’s interest in mind. This is why it annoys to no end that the few AA politicians end up kissing up to them as if all the colored folks need to stick together. Then when it is time to fight for Asian rights, these guys just throw us right under the bus by using terms like “disadvantaged minority” that essentially remove AA’s from that group, when we got plenty of disadvantaged folks around.

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[quote=flu]Bump… How the fvck did this thread go from this topic….

…to this….a rant about CEO’s pay????Talk about thread hijack….

[quote=CA renter]But there’s at least one group that has done very well for themselves over the past few decades!

We’ve made progress on a lot of things since the 1950s and so have CEOs — in their quest for more money that is.

The ratio of CEO-to-worker pay has increased 1,000 percent since 1950, according to data from Bloomberg. Today Fortune 500 CEOs make 204 times regular workers on average, Bloomberg found. The ratio is up from 120-to-1 in 2000, 42-to-1 in 1980 and 20-to-1 in 1950.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/04/30/ceo-to-worker-pay-ratio_n_3184623.html%5B/quote%5D

But I’ll stretch…CEO’s wouldn’t dare to pass a blatantly discriminatory law as some of our most racists politicians would…. Funny how people continue to attack CEOs, and wealthy and redirect the real root of the problem, while the biggest threat to equality is staring right in front of them…

Of course, I guess for some (not all) if you’re not affected by these ridiculous prejudice laws, I guess it doesn’t matter to you.. So I guess for some, we haven’t learned anything for the past 50 years about civil rights and basic principles of right versus wrong….They might move an entire company to a lower cost area, and in the process screw everyone at the company under, but it’s not personal it’s business. It’s not targeted because you are white, black, hispanic, and/or asian…

But whatever…. IF you think these STEM jobs or what have you aren’t important enough for your kids, then fine… Please give tell your kids not to bother to apply so people who really do want them have a better chance…Because I’m sure there are plenty of people who would want them…[/quote]

New thread created for further discussion regarding CEO pay:

http://piggington.com/ceo_pay_declining_compensation_for_mds_and_lawyers

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[quote=flu]….this will be a constitutional issue eventually…
It’s unavoidable..

http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/24/politics/scotus-texas-affirmative-action/
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Agree, I followed that case with eager anticipation last year, was not too pleased when they essentially just avoided the issue.

I think it all goes to the fear of the “yellow plague” dominating the upper crust of society. They are perfectly fine letting the Jews dominate because at the end, they are still white.

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[quote=flu][quote=ocrenter]

+1

signed the petitions and writing e-mail to my assemblymember.

already a victim of affirmative action back in the early 90’s, not about to see it happen with my kid too.[/quote]

You know….When I was going through school. I wasn’t like all the other kids in my class, asian or caucasian…A lot of them were really smart and didn’t need to “study” that much… In a lot of ways, I probably (by today’s standards) had a learning disability.

In elementary, those “joke” standardized Iowa tests, most kids I knew consistently scored 90% and above, I was down there around in the 56% percentile. And I had a reading comprehension problem all the way throughout high school… I couldn’t read fast(er), and it would literally take me 1/2 hr to get through 20 pages or so….I had to work twice as much as the average kid to achieve the same level of competence as everyone else. But on the surface, no one could tell the difference since I liked what I did and even if it was hard, I stuck doing it.

It was a real shocker when I got into pedigree ivy college, and when I got there even more shocking that it would have been far easier if

1) My parents had money
or
2) I was one of those protected minorities

So in short, so yeah I totally get where you’re coming from….Been there done that, and yeah, ain’t gonna let this happen to my kid without a bloody fight…

A lot of asians have(d )the thought process that the status quo is that well, as long as my kid does better than your kid (that is also asian), it’s not my problem…. It appears these folks are finally getting what a big problem it really is…And that’s a good thing..

I don’t think anyone is even asking for anything close to preferential treatment. I think what people are asking for is a level playing field…

Anyway, I’m done writing a dozen or so letters, and soliciting for a dozen or so organizations to pass the word around tonight…

And a few of the folks here that signed the petition as a result of this original thread I started, I’m very greatful that you took the time to do it. Thank you… Good night.[/quote]

Flashing back to college application process, I’m thinking, how come everything is so racial, didn’t the fact that we overcame downright poverty make any difference to these people? And don’t even get me started on the hypocrisy of La Raza once I’m in college.

Have you contacted some of the fobbie media outlet out there? If not I’m going start looking them up and calling, at least the Chinese speaking ones first, afterall, they managed to have a state senator from the 626 pull this on us and didn’t do a thing Bout it, I am still in shock!!!

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[quote=flu]For folks that are interested in writing to your congressman, but aren’t sure what to write, here’s a tip/sample letter…

Enough said…

[img_assist|nid=17929|title=no on sca 5|desc=|link=node|align=left|width=461|height=600][/quote]

Dude, you need to mail this letter to that Hernandez clown. That’s powerful, flu, you should be proud.

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Lol.. The Congressman should have just passed a law requiring every asian applicant to change their last name, and then all the sudden, problem solved.

FWIW: 3 senator some of you folks should know about..

Senator Carol Liu (D)
http://sd25.senate.ca.gov/

Senator Ted Lieu (D)
http://sd28.senate.ca.gov/

Senator Leland Yee (D)
http://sd08.senate.ca.gov/

Some of you folks in their districts better be doing everything you can to make sure these 3 punks lose their jobs next election…. all voted yes because…well let’s not go there…Make sure their mistake will be a career ending move…permanently…

(Ted Lieu, you’re definitely going down for this. You’re district includes Beverly Hills, Redondo Beach, Palos Verdes, Manhattan Beach, West Hollywood, Torrance, Pacific Palisades, Venice, Brentwood…Dumbass..Good luck getting any backing there…. See Ya!)

…Even if they now are back-peddling.. Because of the shit storm they are now getting…

Not that I advocate preferential treatment of any race or ethnicity. But they definitely deserve to lose their jobs for voting something that directly attacks any one specific ethnicity…

Good riddance…

http://sd28.senate.ca.gov/news/2014-02-27-sens-lieu-yee-and-liu-ask-hernandez-hold-sca-5

More time needed to study impacts, reach out to affected communities

SACRAMENTO – Sens. Ted Lieu, D-Redondo Beach; Leland Yee, D-San Francisco/San Mateo; and Carol Liu, D- La Cañada/Flintridge) have called upon Sen. Ed Hernandez, D-West Covina, to hold SCA 5 to provide more time to discuss the potential impacts the bill will have on the Chinese, Asian Pacific Islander and other affected communities. Yee, Lieu and Liu released the following joint statement:

“As lifelong advocates for the Chinese American and other API communities, we would never support a policy that we believed would negatively impact our children. Prior to this vote, we heard no opposition to this bill. However, in the past few weeks, we have heard from thousands of people throughout California concerned about SCA 5. As a result, we have asked Sen. Hernandez to hold SCA 5 until he has an opportunity to meet with affected communities and attempt to build a consensus.”

SCA 5 is authored by Hernandez. If passed, the bill would place an initiative on the November Ballot that would remove all references to public education from Proposition 209, which amended the state constitution to prohibit state government institutions from considering race, sex or ethnicity in the areas of public employment, public contracting or public education.

– See more at: http://sd28.senate.ca.gov/news/2014-02-27-sens-lieu-yee-and-liu-ask-hernandez-hold-sca-5#sthash.IFNiUukd.dpuf

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You are absolutely right, these are total losers that deserve what’s coming to them.

Now back to this Hernandez guy. Seem like this guy doesn’t give up and just keep on pushing this type of racist bills over and over again, despite representing a sizable Asian constituants. I guess he already figured out we are just completely apathetic that it doesn’t matter how anti-Asian he is, he’ll still get elected.

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[quote=harvey]If you Asians weren’t so damn smart none of this would have ever happened.[/quote]

Smart but apathetic. I’m in complete shock this guy has gotten zero blowback from all of the Asians in his district.

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I see this Ed Hernandez guy actually represents HALF of the San Gabriel Valley.

WTF?!!!!

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[quote=Clueless][quote=Clueless]To kill the bill at the Assembly, which is the most effective next step,, please Email, Call, or fax to the Assemblymember in your area:

(1). Brian Maienschein – District 77 (Carmel Valley, Poway, Rancho Bernardo, Rancho Penasquitos, Mirama, etc.): http://republican.assembly.ca.gov/member/AD77 (It worked for me ! His office replied my email in 2h)
(2). Rocky Chavez – District 76 (Carlsbad, Encinitas, Oceanside, etc.): http://republican.assembly.ca.gov/member/AD76/

You can find your district by: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_State_Assembly_districts
CA Republic Assembly members: ttp://republican.assembly.ca.gov/?p=members&o=d#bottom
CA All Assembly members: http://assembly.ca.gov/assemblymembers

Flu- I send you a message, please check it out.[/quote]

Just state: I am against SCA5, Please vote No to SCA5.[/quote]

+1

signed the petitions and writing e-mail to my assemblymember.

already a victim of affirmative action back in the early 90’s, not about to see it happen with my kid too.

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[quote=dumbrenter]
– limiting % of koreans running japanese restaurants in san diego
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ROFLMAO

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[quote=cahunter]I have learned this bill for some time and have emailed and called my state assembly representative to vote NO on this bill.

Ed Hernandez sponsored similar bill, SB 185, in 2011. It was passed in both state senate and assembly but vetoed by Governor Jerry Brown. This time around, he is hope that with the 2/3 majority power of democrats, this bill can be presented to California voters to decide in November election.

This is a bill of race discrimination to me. Its ridiculousness is best illustrated by a comment I read here: http://capoliticalnews.com/2014/02/02/most-racist-bill-in-california-history-sca-5-by-democrat-senator-hernandez-forces-racism-as-criteria-to-entrance-to-uc-schools-limit-womens-enrollment-as-well/#IDComment796169378

I am very sad by this proposal. I am Korean adopted by a Hispanic family. Looks like all my siblings will get a better chance to get to college but me
. How stupid this is! I love my adoption family but this makes me sick to stomach.[/quote]

“Hispanic” is a culture, not a race.

Because you were raised by a Hispanic family, you are culturally a Hispanic.

Nothing wrong with checking that Hispanic box with pride. 🙂

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[quote=AN]
I think in honor of this bill, I’ll change my kid’s last name to Hernandez, just to make a mockery of this ridiculous “law”….

Please sign the petition, and get your significant other and all of your family members and relatives to sign… I wonder if on the application, you check the Hispanic box. Would they be able to tell? Maybe that’s one way around it. You can very well have a Chinese dad and a Mexican mom and you just happen to identify yourself more with your Hispanic heritage. That way, you don’t have to go through the hassle of changing your name :-).[/quote]

Hey, there’s a little known community of Cantonese immigrants in Mexicali, these immigrants to the US are considered “Hispanics.” I have had some encounters with them throughout the years, to see these guys speaking Spanish and needing Spanish translators is a real trip.

I think my daughter just became one of these Hispanic Cantonese from Mexicali… hehe

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The Olympics has always been a political showcase for the strong and powerful and an outlet for excessive and over-the-top nationalistic displays. I suppose in this sense it is better to just have th Olympics, because otherwise the money would not be going to education and publi welfare, it would have gone to the military.

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