[ocrenter]

[quote=KIBU]ocrenter, how could you remember something that was said 2 years ago??? Does your wife complain about this trait? [/quote]

trust me, that memory only serves me with numbers and housing. when it comes to arguments, I’ve lost every one of them since meeting my wife.

TG, yes, the olympic knife catching team was a classic. speaking of which, your reward for coming up with that phrase is the knowledge that they had to cough up $15k just for their property tax this year. yup, that’s $6000 per year on that mello roos, or $500/month. These days, that reduces your buying power by $95k.

So mid 600’s is really more reasonable for these homes, as after mello roos the true price would be low to mid 700’s.

[ocrenter]

[quote=KIBU]ocrenter, how could you remember something that was said 2 years ago??? Does your wife complain about this trait? [/quote]

trust me, that memory only serves me with numbers and housing. when it comes to arguments, I’ve lost every one of them since meeting my wife.

TG, yes, the olympic knife catching team was a classic. speaking of which, your reward for coming up with that phrase is the knowledge that they had to cough up $15k just for their property tax this year. yup, that’s $6000 per year on that mello roos, or $500/month. These days, that reduces your buying power by $95k.

So mid 600’s is really more reasonable for these homes, as after mello roos the true price would be low to mid 700’s.

[ocrenter]

And the winners, 5yearwaiter and TG

Submitted by 5yearwaiter on August 17, 2007 – 9:09pm.

The real worth for this kind of home when built was around 577K in the year of 2003. I will add 6% to this amount from that period which means it supposed to be worth of 737000.

Submitted by temeculaguy on August 17, 2007 – 10:32pm.

‘m guessing it’s gonna take a hit. I like what the others have said, 700k range,

10240 Paseo De Linda, San Diego, CA 92127
–5 beds, 5 baths, 3,574 sq ft
–03/09/2009: $720,000 ($201/sqft)

[ocrenter]

And the winners, 5yearwaiter and TG

Submitted by 5yearwaiter on August 17, 2007 – 9:09pm.

The real worth for this kind of home when built was around 577K in the year of 2003. I will add 6% to this amount from that period which means it supposed to be worth of 737000.

Submitted by temeculaguy on August 17, 2007 – 10:32pm.

‘m guessing it’s gonna take a hit. I like what the others have said, 700k range,

10240 Paseo De Linda, San Diego, CA 92127
–5 beds, 5 baths, 3,574 sq ft
–03/09/2009: $720,000 ($201/sqft)

[ocrenter]

And the winners, 5yearwaiter and TG

Submitted by 5yearwaiter on August 17, 2007 – 9:09pm.

The real worth for this kind of home when built was around 577K in the year of 2003. I will add 6% to this amount from that period which means it supposed to be worth of 737000.

Submitted by temeculaguy on August 17, 2007 – 10:32pm.

‘m guessing it’s gonna take a hit. I like what the others have said, 700k range,

10240 Paseo De Linda, San Diego, CA 92127
–5 beds, 5 baths, 3,574 sq ft
–03/09/2009: $720,000 ($201/sqft)

[ocrenter]

And the winners, 5yearwaiter and TG

Submitted by 5yearwaiter on August 17, 2007 – 9:09pm.

The real worth for this kind of home when built was around 577K in the year of 2003. I will add 6% to this amount from that period which means it supposed to be worth of 737000.

Submitted by temeculaguy on August 17, 2007 – 10:32pm.

‘m guessing it’s gonna take a hit. I like what the others have said, 700k range,

10240 Paseo De Linda, San Diego, CA 92127
–5 beds, 5 baths, 3,574 sq ft
–03/09/2009: $720,000 ($201/sqft)

[ocrenter]

And the winners, 5yearwaiter and TG

Submitted by 5yearwaiter on August 17, 2007 – 9:09pm.

The real worth for this kind of home when built was around 577K in the year of 2003. I will add 6% to this amount from that period which means it supposed to be worth of 737000.

Submitted by temeculaguy on August 17, 2007 – 10:32pm.

‘m guessing it’s gonna take a hit. I like what the others have said, 700k range,

10240 Paseo De Linda, San Diego, CA 92127
–5 beds, 5 baths, 3,574 sq ft
–03/09/2009: $720,000 ($201/sqft)

[ocrenter]

Big Pharma always has their bottom line on their mind:

“If you’re noticing a theme with that list of drugs, you’re not alone. Rumor is, these particular drugs may have been picked as freebies because there are way cheaper (and equally effective) generics out there. The same type of situation holds true for drug samples from your doctor’s office – samples that are given out by pharmaceutical companies are often drugs that might cost you more in the long run if you stay on them – which would make this free drug program, basically, a direct-to-you sample offer. By offering these drugs free, in addition to lots of great PR, Pfizer can build brand loyalty and keep patients from switching to generics.”

Here’s an example. Let’s say Pfizer can get a doctor to hand out Zoloft samples for a depressed realtor. After a month on the samples the realtor feels much better. There’s no more refills and he’ll need to purchase it. Because this is the only antidepressant that “works” for this realtor, the insurance company would have to approve the med. cost per month: $100. A year of treatment: $1200. 1000 depressed realtors treated for a year: $1.2 million!

Now let’s say Pfizer did not give out the samples. The said doctor would provide the same depressed realtor generic prozac. cost per month: $25. A year of treatment: $300. Now let’s say out of a 1000 depressed realtors, 900 were ok on prozac but 100 couldn’t tolerate prozac and had to be switched to Zoloft. What’s the cost to treat for a year? $390,000.

Just by trying the cheaper alternative first, and only allow people that can’t tolerate it to take the higher priced Branded medication would save over $800,000 in this scenario. So every time you get those samples from the doctor’s office and every time you get that branded medication as the first line therapy, you have just taken part in why medical cost will ultimately bankrupt this country.

[ocrenter]

Big Pharma always has their bottom line on their mind:

“If you’re noticing a theme with that list of drugs, you’re not alone. Rumor is, these particular drugs may have been picked as freebies because there are way cheaper (and equally effective) generics out there. The same type of situation holds true for drug samples from your doctor’s office – samples that are given out by pharmaceutical companies are often drugs that might cost you more in the long run if you stay on them – which would make this free drug program, basically, a direct-to-you sample offer. By offering these drugs free, in addition to lots of great PR, Pfizer can build brand loyalty and keep patients from switching to generics.”

Here’s an example. Let’s say Pfizer can get a doctor to hand out Zoloft samples for a depressed realtor. After a month on the samples the realtor feels much better. There’s no more refills and he’ll need to purchase it. Because this is the only antidepressant that “works” for this realtor, the insurance company would have to approve the med. cost per month: $100. A year of treatment: $1200. 1000 depressed realtors treated for a year: $1.2 million!

Now let’s say Pfizer did not give out the samples. The said doctor would provide the same depressed realtor generic prozac. cost per month: $25. A year of treatment: $300. Now let’s say out of a 1000 depressed realtors, 900 were ok on prozac but 100 couldn’t tolerate prozac and had to be switched to Zoloft. What’s the cost to treat for a year? $390,000.

Just by trying the cheaper alternative first, and only allow people that can’t tolerate it to take the higher priced Branded medication would save over $800,000 in this scenario. So every time you get those samples from the doctor’s office and every time you get that branded medication as the first line therapy, you have just taken part in why medical cost will ultimately bankrupt this country.

[ocrenter]

Big Pharma always has their bottom line on their mind:

“If you’re noticing a theme with that list of drugs, you’re not alone. Rumor is, these particular drugs may have been picked as freebies because there are way cheaper (and equally effective) generics out there. The same type of situation holds true for drug samples from your doctor’s office – samples that are given out by pharmaceutical companies are often drugs that might cost you more in the long run if you stay on them – which would make this free drug program, basically, a direct-to-you sample offer. By offering these drugs free, in addition to lots of great PR, Pfizer can build brand loyalty and keep patients from switching to generics.”

Here’s an example. Let’s say Pfizer can get a doctor to hand out Zoloft samples for a depressed realtor. After a month on the samples the realtor feels much better. There’s no more refills and he’ll need to purchase it. Because this is the only antidepressant that “works” for this realtor, the insurance company would have to approve the med. cost per month: $100. A year of treatment: $1200. 1000 depressed realtors treated for a year: $1.2 million!

Now let’s say Pfizer did not give out the samples. The said doctor would provide the same depressed realtor generic prozac. cost per month: $25. A year of treatment: $300. Now let’s say out of a 1000 depressed realtors, 900 were ok on prozac but 100 couldn’t tolerate prozac and had to be switched to Zoloft. What’s the cost to treat for a year? $390,000.

Just by trying the cheaper alternative first, and only allow people that can’t tolerate it to take the higher priced Branded medication would save over $800,000 in this scenario. So every time you get those samples from the doctor’s office and every time you get that branded medication as the first line therapy, you have just taken part in why medical cost will ultimately bankrupt this country.

[ocrenter]

Big Pharma always has their bottom line on their mind:

“If you’re noticing a theme with that list of drugs, you’re not alone. Rumor is, these particular drugs may have been picked as freebies because there are way cheaper (and equally effective) generics out there. The same type of situation holds true for drug samples from your doctor’s office – samples that are given out by pharmaceutical companies are often drugs that might cost you more in the long run if you stay on them – which would make this free drug program, basically, a direct-to-you sample offer. By offering these drugs free, in addition to lots of great PR, Pfizer can build brand loyalty and keep patients from switching to generics.”

Here’s an example. Let’s say Pfizer can get a doctor to hand out Zoloft samples for a depressed realtor. After a month on the samples the realtor feels much better. There’s no more refills and he’ll need to purchase it. Because this is the only antidepressant that “works” for this realtor, the insurance company would have to approve the med. cost per month: $100. A year of treatment: $1200. 1000 depressed realtors treated for a year: $1.2 million!

Now let’s say Pfizer did not give out the samples. The said doctor would provide the same depressed realtor generic prozac. cost per month: $25. A year of treatment: $300. Now let’s say out of a 1000 depressed realtors, 900 were ok on prozac but 100 couldn’t tolerate prozac and had to be switched to Zoloft. What’s the cost to treat for a year? $390,000.

Just by trying the cheaper alternative first, and only allow people that can’t tolerate it to take the higher priced Branded medication would save over $800,000 in this scenario. So every time you get those samples from the doctor’s office and every time you get that branded medication as the first line therapy, you have just taken part in why medical cost will ultimately bankrupt this country.

[ocrenter]

Big Pharma always has their bottom line on their mind:

“If you’re noticing a theme with that list of drugs, you’re not alone. Rumor is, these particular drugs may have been picked as freebies because there are way cheaper (and equally effective) generics out there. The same type of situation holds true for drug samples from your doctor’s office – samples that are given out by pharmaceutical companies are often drugs that might cost you more in the long run if you stay on them – which would make this free drug program, basically, a direct-to-you sample offer. By offering these drugs free, in addition to lots of great PR, Pfizer can build brand loyalty and keep patients from switching to generics.”

Here’s an example. Let’s say Pfizer can get a doctor to hand out Zoloft samples for a depressed realtor. After a month on the samples the realtor feels much better. There’s no more refills and he’ll need to purchase it. Because this is the only antidepressant that “works” for this realtor, the insurance company would have to approve the med. cost per month: $100. A year of treatment: $1200. 1000 depressed realtors treated for a year: $1.2 million!

Now let’s say Pfizer did not give out the samples. The said doctor would provide the same depressed realtor generic prozac. cost per month: $25. A year of treatment: $300. Now let’s say out of a 1000 depressed realtors, 900 were ok on prozac but 100 couldn’t tolerate prozac and had to be switched to Zoloft. What’s the cost to treat for a year? $390,000.

Just by trying the cheaper alternative first, and only allow people that can’t tolerate it to take the higher priced Branded medication would save over $800,000 in this scenario. So every time you get those samples from the doctor’s office and every time you get that branded medication as the first line therapy, you have just taken part in why medical cost will ultimately bankrupt this country.

[ocrenter]

I think it purely depends on your priorities.

for the price localguy got his house, he got a near 5,000 sqft home with a huge usable lot with Poway schools.

but for others, they would rather buy a near 3,000 sqft home with minimal lot in Carmel Valley for that same exact price.

for some folks that 2,000 sqft difference and the “reach out and touch my neighbor coziness” is well worth it just to have that Carmel Valley address.

But for guys like localguy, driving 25 minutes to the beach is ok if it means 2,000 sqft of additional space along with a huge flat yard with a view.

whatever floats your boat.

[ocrenter]

I think it purely depends on your priorities.

for the price localguy got his house, he got a near 5,000 sqft home with a huge usable lot with Poway schools.

but for others, they would rather buy a near 3,000 sqft home with minimal lot in Carmel Valley for that same exact price.

for some folks that 2,000 sqft difference and the “reach out and touch my neighbor coziness” is well worth it just to have that Carmel Valley address.

But for guys like localguy, driving 25 minutes to the beach is ok if it means 2,000 sqft of additional space along with a huge flat yard with a view.

whatever floats your boat.

[ocrenter]

I think it purely depends on your priorities.

for the price localguy got his house, he got a near 5,000 sqft home with a huge usable lot with Poway schools.

but for others, they would rather buy a near 3,000 sqft home with minimal lot in Carmel Valley for that same exact price.

for some folks that 2,000 sqft difference and the “reach out and touch my neighbor coziness” is well worth it just to have that Carmel Valley address.

But for guys like localguy, driving 25 minutes to the beach is ok if it means 2,000 sqft of additional space along with a huge flat yard with a view.

whatever floats your boat.

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