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foreigners routinely do this:

They go see a doctor in their own country, get the diagnosis and the treatment plan down.

the doctor then teaches them to describe their condition in more urgent terms. (for example, if someone has heart disease but stable, they are taught to describe the symptoms in more severe ways, like, I am having chest pressure like an elephant sitting on my chest with pain radiating down my left arm and jaw).

The foreigner then buy a plane ticket and come over and have the taxi drive him/her to the hospital of their choice, present with the “emergent symptoms” and is admitted and treated. the foreigner then flies back home.

I’m not saying this is what happened to your parents. nor am I saying it is their intend to walk away from debt unpaid from their treatment here. Just pointing out that thousands of people do this intentionally day in and day out and there is no legal action or collection attempts.

I also want to point this out to you. If the admission for the stroke was $5000, would you pay it? of course! And in most single payer countries that would be how much the bill be.

Instead, the $30k goes back as a loss and the insurance company use this loss to justify further increases next year on the rest of us.

just another story that illustrate how broken this system is.

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foreigners routinely do this:

They go see a doctor in their own country, get the diagnosis and the treatment plan down.

the doctor then teaches them to describe their condition in more urgent terms. (for example, if someone has heart disease but stable, they are taught to describe the symptoms in more severe ways, like, I am having chest pressure like an elephant sitting on my chest with pain radiating down my left arm and jaw).

The foreigner then buy a plane ticket and come over and have the taxi drive him/her to the hospital of their choice, present with the “emergent symptoms” and is admitted and treated. the foreigner then flies back home.

I’m not saying this is what happened to your parents. nor am I saying it is their intend to walk away from debt unpaid from their treatment here. Just pointing out that thousands of people do this intentionally day in and day out and there is no legal action or collection attempts.

I also want to point this out to you. If the admission for the stroke was $5000, would you pay it? of course! And in most single payer countries that would be how much the bill be.

Instead, the $30k goes back as a loss and the insurance company use this loss to justify further increases next year on the rest of us.

just another story that illustrate how broken this system is.

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this neighborhood was first featured on BMIT in ’06 and again in ’08. This is the history of this particular home:

6508 Mesa Norte Dr., Carmel Valley, CA 92130
–4 beds, 4.0 baths, 4,258 sqft on 1.4 acres
–11/2005: purchased for $1.978 million
–the first owner installed a vanishing pool plus other upgrades.
–11/2006: was entertaining offers from $2.490 to $2.690 million
–06/2007: aggressively dropped his wish price and sold for $1.975 million

so it looks like the second owner in ’07 got in trouble and is going for a short sale for $1.75 million.

assuming you got $250k of upgrade in this thing, you are looking at close to $500k off peak and improvements. but the main question is, how much is the bank willing to take, and will you have a better shot at this thing if it goes to auction.

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this neighborhood was first featured on BMIT in ’06 and again in ’08. This is the history of this particular home:

6508 Mesa Norte Dr., Carmel Valley, CA 92130
–4 beds, 4.0 baths, 4,258 sqft on 1.4 acres
–11/2005: purchased for $1.978 million
–the first owner installed a vanishing pool plus other upgrades.
–11/2006: was entertaining offers from $2.490 to $2.690 million
–06/2007: aggressively dropped his wish price and sold for $1.975 million

so it looks like the second owner in ’07 got in trouble and is going for a short sale for $1.75 million.

assuming you got $250k of upgrade in this thing, you are looking at close to $500k off peak and improvements. but the main question is, how much is the bank willing to take, and will you have a better shot at this thing if it goes to auction.

[ocrenter]

this neighborhood was first featured on BMIT in ’06 and again in ’08. This is the history of this particular home:

6508 Mesa Norte Dr., Carmel Valley, CA 92130
–4 beds, 4.0 baths, 4,258 sqft on 1.4 acres
–11/2005: purchased for $1.978 million
–the first owner installed a vanishing pool plus other upgrades.
–11/2006: was entertaining offers from $2.490 to $2.690 million
–06/2007: aggressively dropped his wish price and sold for $1.975 million

so it looks like the second owner in ’07 got in trouble and is going for a short sale for $1.75 million.

assuming you got $250k of upgrade in this thing, you are looking at close to $500k off peak and improvements. but the main question is, how much is the bank willing to take, and will you have a better shot at this thing if it goes to auction.

[ocrenter]

this neighborhood was first featured on BMIT in ’06 and again in ’08. This is the history of this particular home:

6508 Mesa Norte Dr., Carmel Valley, CA 92130
–4 beds, 4.0 baths, 4,258 sqft on 1.4 acres
–11/2005: purchased for $1.978 million
–the first owner installed a vanishing pool plus other upgrades.
–11/2006: was entertaining offers from $2.490 to $2.690 million
–06/2007: aggressively dropped his wish price and sold for $1.975 million

so it looks like the second owner in ’07 got in trouble and is going for a short sale for $1.75 million.

assuming you got $250k of upgrade in this thing, you are looking at close to $500k off peak and improvements. but the main question is, how much is the bank willing to take, and will you have a better shot at this thing if it goes to auction.

[ocrenter]

this neighborhood was first featured on BMIT in ’06 and again in ’08. This is the history of this particular home:

6508 Mesa Norte Dr., Carmel Valley, CA 92130
–4 beds, 4.0 baths, 4,258 sqft on 1.4 acres
–11/2005: purchased for $1.978 million
–the first owner installed a vanishing pool plus other upgrades.
–11/2006: was entertaining offers from $2.490 to $2.690 million
–06/2007: aggressively dropped his wish price and sold for $1.975 million

so it looks like the second owner in ’07 got in trouble and is going for a short sale for $1.75 million.

assuming you got $250k of upgrade in this thing, you are looking at close to $500k off peak and improvements. but the main question is, how much is the bank willing to take, and will you have a better shot at this thing if it goes to auction.

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what about Fireman’s Fund?

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what about Fireman’s Fund?

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what about Fireman’s Fund?

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what about Fireman’s Fund?

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what about Fireman’s Fund?

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[quote=qwerty007]I’m a great fan of PBS. It’s just about the only channel on cable worth watching[/quote]

there’s something very wrong with that statement.

if PBS is the only channel you really watch, you really shouldn’t be wasting money on the cable bill, switch to OTA antenna! you’ll get PBS and all of the locals in HD for free!

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[quote=qwerty007]I’m a great fan of PBS. It’s just about the only channel on cable worth watching[/quote]

there’s something very wrong with that statement.

if PBS is the only channel you really watch, you really shouldn’t be wasting money on the cable bill, switch to OTA antenna! you’ll get PBS and all of the locals in HD for free!

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[quote=qwerty007]I’m a great fan of PBS. It’s just about the only channel on cable worth watching[/quote]

there’s something very wrong with that statement.

if PBS is the only channel you really watch, you really shouldn’t be wasting money on the cable bill, switch to OTA antenna! you’ll get PBS and all of the locals in HD for free!

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