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Participant[quote=afx114]I wonder if the public would support a tax increase like this, or would we see a “keep your damn hands off my soda” revolt?[/quote]
I think the American public will see this as an extension of Big Government and fight hard against it.
Like I said before, we have to get to 50% obesity rate and when large numbers of us are dying off or becoming disabled in our 50-60’s before public opinion shift to allow the government to tax soda. (in the process, probably bankrupt the country)
ParticipantThe bottom line on the topic really is portion control and moderation.
Quite frankly, most people know exactly what they need to do. Most folks will go to the doctor and tell their doc that all they ever eat is whole grain cereal, turkey sandwich on wheat bread, and salad without dressing and only drink water. The patient and the doctor are then left with the medical mystery of how that patient managed to gain 30 lbs over the last year on that diet.
ParticipantThe bottom line on the topic really is portion control and moderation.
Quite frankly, most people know exactly what they need to do. Most folks will go to the doctor and tell their doc that all they ever eat is whole grain cereal, turkey sandwich on wheat bread, and salad without dressing and only drink water. The patient and the doctor are then left with the medical mystery of how that patient managed to gain 30 lbs over the last year on that diet.
ParticipantThe bottom line on the topic really is portion control and moderation.
Quite frankly, most people know exactly what they need to do. Most folks will go to the doctor and tell their doc that all they ever eat is whole grain cereal, turkey sandwich on wheat bread, and salad without dressing and only drink water. The patient and the doctor are then left with the medical mystery of how that patient managed to gain 30 lbs over the last year on that diet.
ParticipantThe bottom line on the topic really is portion control and moderation.
Quite frankly, most people know exactly what they need to do. Most folks will go to the doctor and tell their doc that all they ever eat is whole grain cereal, turkey sandwich on wheat bread, and salad without dressing and only drink water. The patient and the doctor are then left with the medical mystery of how that patient managed to gain 30 lbs over the last year on that diet.
ParticipantThe bottom line on the topic really is portion control and moderation.
Quite frankly, most people know exactly what they need to do. Most folks will go to the doctor and tell their doc that all they ever eat is whole grain cereal, turkey sandwich on wheat bread, and salad without dressing and only drink water. The patient and the doctor are then left with the medical mystery of how that patient managed to gain 30 lbs over the last year on that diet.
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Regardless of intent, Butz is the guy that set the ball rolling on large corporations pushing out small farmers to get ridiculous subsidies. These subsidies were initially priced to incentivize food production to lower the cost of food for families in the 60’s. Unfortunately, these subsidies have only increased since their initial adoption.[/quote]
so perhaps simply redirecting the subsidies toward production of healthier food?
Participant[quote=weberlin]
Regardless of intent, Butz is the guy that set the ball rolling on large corporations pushing out small farmers to get ridiculous subsidies. These subsidies were initially priced to incentivize food production to lower the cost of food for families in the 60’s. Unfortunately, these subsidies have only increased since their initial adoption.[/quote]
so perhaps simply redirecting the subsidies toward production of healthier food?
Participant[quote=weberlin]
Regardless of intent, Butz is the guy that set the ball rolling on large corporations pushing out small farmers to get ridiculous subsidies. These subsidies were initially priced to incentivize food production to lower the cost of food for families in the 60’s. Unfortunately, these subsidies have only increased since their initial adoption.[/quote]
so perhaps simply redirecting the subsidies toward production of healthier food?
Participant[quote=weberlin]
Regardless of intent, Butz is the guy that set the ball rolling on large corporations pushing out small farmers to get ridiculous subsidies. These subsidies were initially priced to incentivize food production to lower the cost of food for families in the 60’s. Unfortunately, these subsidies have only increased since their initial adoption.[/quote]
so perhaps simply redirecting the subsidies toward production of healthier food?
Participant[quote=weberlin]
Regardless of intent, Butz is the guy that set the ball rolling on large corporations pushing out small farmers to get ridiculous subsidies. These subsidies were initially priced to incentivize food production to lower the cost of food for families in the 60’s. Unfortunately, these subsidies have only increased since their initial adoption.[/quote]
so perhaps simply redirecting the subsidies toward production of healthier food?
Participantwhen it comes to fat, the issue is not complete elimination, but rather shift to good fat and reduce to moderation. red meat as it presently available come from cattle that does nothing but stand in a stall all of their short lives, that translate to increased fatty content of the meat.
as for carbs, refined carbs are essentially sugar. it is, like jp pointed out, highly addictive. I know people that can down 5 bowls of white rice in a single sitting, but once they transition to brown rice they just naturally have a single bowl and that’s it. the same goes for pasta, bread, and tortillas.
the issue is too much food, regardless of the activities.
for example, brisk walking for 2 hours burn 200 calories. but if you get a single entree at a regular restaurant you are routinely looking at 1700 to 2000 calories, added to that drinks and appetizers and desert, you could be looking at 3000 calories. assuming that person would eat another 1000 calories for the other 2 meals of the day, that translate to 5000 calories. subtract 2000 calories for a typical male with average activities for a day, that’s 3000 calories over on that day. 3000/200 = 15 hours of brisk walking to burn up the excess calories. how many people walk 15 hours on a day that they decide to go out to Chili’s or TGIF or Claim Jumper?
Participantwhen it comes to fat, the issue is not complete elimination, but rather shift to good fat and reduce to moderation. red meat as it presently available come from cattle that does nothing but stand in a stall all of their short lives, that translate to increased fatty content of the meat.
as for carbs, refined carbs are essentially sugar. it is, like jp pointed out, highly addictive. I know people that can down 5 bowls of white rice in a single sitting, but once they transition to brown rice they just naturally have a single bowl and that’s it. the same goes for pasta, bread, and tortillas.
the issue is too much food, regardless of the activities.
for example, brisk walking for 2 hours burn 200 calories. but if you get a single entree at a regular restaurant you are routinely looking at 1700 to 2000 calories, added to that drinks and appetizers and desert, you could be looking at 3000 calories. assuming that person would eat another 1000 calories for the other 2 meals of the day, that translate to 5000 calories. subtract 2000 calories for a typical male with average activities for a day, that’s 3000 calories over on that day. 3000/200 = 15 hours of brisk walking to burn up the excess calories. how many people walk 15 hours on a day that they decide to go out to Chili’s or TGIF or Claim Jumper?
Participantwhen it comes to fat, the issue is not complete elimination, but rather shift to good fat and reduce to moderation. red meat as it presently available come from cattle that does nothing but stand in a stall all of their short lives, that translate to increased fatty content of the meat.
as for carbs, refined carbs are essentially sugar. it is, like jp pointed out, highly addictive. I know people that can down 5 bowls of white rice in a single sitting, but once they transition to brown rice they just naturally have a single bowl and that’s it. the same goes for pasta, bread, and tortillas.
the issue is too much food, regardless of the activities.
for example, brisk walking for 2 hours burn 200 calories. but if you get a single entree at a regular restaurant you are routinely looking at 1700 to 2000 calories, added to that drinks and appetizers and desert, you could be looking at 3000 calories. assuming that person would eat another 1000 calories for the other 2 meals of the day, that translate to 5000 calories. subtract 2000 calories for a typical male with average activities for a day, that’s 3000 calories over on that day. 3000/200 = 15 hours of brisk walking to burn up the excess calories. how many people walk 15 hours on a day that they decide to go out to Chili’s or TGIF or Claim Jumper?
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