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ISTJ

quite accurate

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is that conforming? conforming jumbo? nonconforming? points? no points? impound? no impound?

would love more details if you don’t mind.

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is that conforming? conforming jumbo? nonconforming? points? no points? impound? no impound?

would love more details if you don’t mind.

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is that conforming? conforming jumbo? nonconforming? points? no points? impound? no impound?

would love more details if you don’t mind.

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is that conforming? conforming jumbo? nonconforming? points? no points? impound? no impound?

would love more details if you don’t mind.

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is that conforming? conforming jumbo? nonconforming? points? no points? impound? no impound?

would love more details if you don’t mind.

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[quote=jpinpb]

Eating healthy should be the goal. The result of that is less weight. And I do think parents should help the children make the right choices, even if kids protest.

I was lucky enough to grow up in a home where mom didn’t work. Dad refused to allow her to. Her job was to stay at home and take care of the house and kids and cook and clean. We always had home-cooked meals. We NEVER had fast food growing up. And I remember as a kid feeling left out. Why do all the kids get to go play at the playground at McDonald’s. Oh, my dad was very stern. No way were we ever going there.

I even remember trick or treating at Halloween. My mom would sort through our candy when we were done and end up giving away half of it to other kids that came. We could only have certain kinds. I would be so pissed b/c there were certain ones I liked and how could she give it away after I pounded the pavement begging for candy. (What a weird ritual, when you think about it) But I could get mad all I want. She wasn’t going to let me eat junk. Tough.

I need to call and thank her.[/quote]

parents need to be parents, not friends. a fact lost in quite a number of parents these days.

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[quote=jpinpb]

Eating healthy should be the goal. The result of that is less weight. And I do think parents should help the children make the right choices, even if kids protest.

I was lucky enough to grow up in a home where mom didn’t work. Dad refused to allow her to. Her job was to stay at home and take care of the house and kids and cook and clean. We always had home-cooked meals. We NEVER had fast food growing up. And I remember as a kid feeling left out. Why do all the kids get to go play at the playground at McDonald’s. Oh, my dad was very stern. No way were we ever going there.

I even remember trick or treating at Halloween. My mom would sort through our candy when we were done and end up giving away half of it to other kids that came. We could only have certain kinds. I would be so pissed b/c there were certain ones I liked and how could she give it away after I pounded the pavement begging for candy. (What a weird ritual, when you think about it) But I could get mad all I want. She wasn’t going to let me eat junk. Tough.

I need to call and thank her.[/quote]

parents need to be parents, not friends. a fact lost in quite a number of parents these days.

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[quote=jpinpb]

Eating healthy should be the goal. The result of that is less weight. And I do think parents should help the children make the right choices, even if kids protest.

I was lucky enough to grow up in a home where mom didn’t work. Dad refused to allow her to. Her job was to stay at home and take care of the house and kids and cook and clean. We always had home-cooked meals. We NEVER had fast food growing up. And I remember as a kid feeling left out. Why do all the kids get to go play at the playground at McDonald’s. Oh, my dad was very stern. No way were we ever going there.

I even remember trick or treating at Halloween. My mom would sort through our candy when we were done and end up giving away half of it to other kids that came. We could only have certain kinds. I would be so pissed b/c there were certain ones I liked and how could she give it away after I pounded the pavement begging for candy. (What a weird ritual, when you think about it) But I could get mad all I want. She wasn’t going to let me eat junk. Tough.

I need to call and thank her.[/quote]

parents need to be parents, not friends. a fact lost in quite a number of parents these days.

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[quote=jpinpb]

Eating healthy should be the goal. The result of that is less weight. And I do think parents should help the children make the right choices, even if kids protest.

I was lucky enough to grow up in a home where mom didn’t work. Dad refused to allow her to. Her job was to stay at home and take care of the house and kids and cook and clean. We always had home-cooked meals. We NEVER had fast food growing up. And I remember as a kid feeling left out. Why do all the kids get to go play at the playground at McDonald’s. Oh, my dad was very stern. No way were we ever going there.

I even remember trick or treating at Halloween. My mom would sort through our candy when we were done and end up giving away half of it to other kids that came. We could only have certain kinds. I would be so pissed b/c there were certain ones I liked and how could she give it away after I pounded the pavement begging for candy. (What a weird ritual, when you think about it) But I could get mad all I want. She wasn’t going to let me eat junk. Tough.

I need to call and thank her.[/quote]

parents need to be parents, not friends. a fact lost in quite a number of parents these days.

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[quote=jpinpb]

Eating healthy should be the goal. The result of that is less weight. And I do think parents should help the children make the right choices, even if kids protest.

I was lucky enough to grow up in a home where mom didn’t work. Dad refused to allow her to. Her job was to stay at home and take care of the house and kids and cook and clean. We always had home-cooked meals. We NEVER had fast food growing up. And I remember as a kid feeling left out. Why do all the kids get to go play at the playground at McDonald’s. Oh, my dad was very stern. No way were we ever going there.

I even remember trick or treating at Halloween. My mom would sort through our candy when we were done and end up giving away half of it to other kids that came. We could only have certain kinds. I would be so pissed b/c there were certain ones I liked and how could she give it away after I pounded the pavement begging for candy. (What a weird ritual, when you think about it) But I could get mad all I want. She wasn’t going to let me eat junk. Tough.

I need to call and thank her.[/quote]

parents need to be parents, not friends. a fact lost in quite a number of parents these days.

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[quote=CBad]

Having said that, people’s self esteem goes up when they think they look better. But if overweight becomes the new norm people won’t think it looks “bad” anymore; it will just be normal.[/quote]

Cbad is right, it is really more central obesity and waistline. Some ethnicities have a propensity to put on weight around the waistline, those groups are more likely to develop obesity related problems earlier than even BMI would indicate.

as for the new norm. one has to realize that as whales become the dominate species in the ocean, they gradually got bigger and bigger because they had endless supply of food. and as the whales got bigger and bigger, their normal changed.

same thing with human. as we are now the dominate species on land and sea. we have all of the food we can consume and we will just keep eating and eating. we are programmed that way. and so we will gradually get bigger, and bigger, and bigger. and as we get bigger, our normal will change as well.

human beings are not special, we are just a group of animals that figured out how to change the environment around us to suit us. and as we have access to more food, we will just keep eating. this is how animals behave.

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[quote=CBad]

Having said that, people’s self esteem goes up when they think they look better. But if overweight becomes the new norm people won’t think it looks “bad” anymore; it will just be normal.[/quote]

Cbad is right, it is really more central obesity and waistline. Some ethnicities have a propensity to put on weight around the waistline, those groups are more likely to develop obesity related problems earlier than even BMI would indicate.

as for the new norm. one has to realize that as whales become the dominate species in the ocean, they gradually got bigger and bigger because they had endless supply of food. and as the whales got bigger and bigger, their normal changed.

same thing with human. as we are now the dominate species on land and sea. we have all of the food we can consume and we will just keep eating and eating. we are programmed that way. and so we will gradually get bigger, and bigger, and bigger. and as we get bigger, our normal will change as well.

human beings are not special, we are just a group of animals that figured out how to change the environment around us to suit us. and as we have access to more food, we will just keep eating. this is how animals behave.

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[quote=CBad]

Having said that, people’s self esteem goes up when they think they look better. But if overweight becomes the new norm people won’t think it looks “bad” anymore; it will just be normal.[/quote]

Cbad is right, it is really more central obesity and waistline. Some ethnicities have a propensity to put on weight around the waistline, those groups are more likely to develop obesity related problems earlier than even BMI would indicate.

as for the new norm. one has to realize that as whales become the dominate species in the ocean, they gradually got bigger and bigger because they had endless supply of food. and as the whales got bigger and bigger, their normal changed.

same thing with human. as we are now the dominate species on land and sea. we have all of the food we can consume and we will just keep eating and eating. we are programmed that way. and so we will gradually get bigger, and bigger, and bigger. and as we get bigger, our normal will change as well.

human beings are not special, we are just a group of animals that figured out how to change the environment around us to suit us. and as we have access to more food, we will just keep eating. this is how animals behave.

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