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September 6, 2010 at 6:17 PM in reply to: OT: so this is what our soldiers are dying for in Afghanistan? #602017September 6, 2010 at 6:17 PM in reply to: OT: so this is what our soldiers are dying for in Afghanistan? #602335
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Participant[quote=Russell]To the contrary ,Brian, I predict 15 years of quack science and accompanying wasted medical practice, to serve homophobic would-be parents. Of course,the practioneers can lobby, gays can protest for the rights or unborn gays and the left and right across the spectrum can fight over funding.[/quote]
yes, I can totally see the same as well.
question at that point would be: there may also be a way to make sure your kid is homosexual. so would lesbian moms pay to make sure their kids do not end up being one of them “breeders?”
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Participantthe tulip bubble, the railroad bubble, the countless real estate bubbles, the tech bubble, and the commodity bubble. these all make sense.
but how would the stimulus bubble play out? the film really didn’t get into it.
the other problem is we all know had they not done what they did, Great Depression II would have been the case for sure. it would have taken someone really out there (aka Ron Paul) to restrain and not create the stimulus, because quite frankly, anybody else that was running for president would have done the stimulus as well. so does it take a global stimulus bubble that lead to complete and total financial collapse of the Western financial system to make Americans pick someone like Paul to bring back total financial discipline?
ocrenter
Participantthe tulip bubble, the railroad bubble, the countless real estate bubbles, the tech bubble, and the commodity bubble. these all make sense.
but how would the stimulus bubble play out? the film really didn’t get into it.
the other problem is we all know had they not done what they did, Great Depression II would have been the case for sure. it would have taken someone really out there (aka Ron Paul) to restrain and not create the stimulus, because quite frankly, anybody else that was running for president would have done the stimulus as well. so does it take a global stimulus bubble that lead to complete and total financial collapse of the Western financial system to make Americans pick someone like Paul to bring back total financial discipline?
ocrenter
Participantthe tulip bubble, the railroad bubble, the countless real estate bubbles, the tech bubble, and the commodity bubble. these all make sense.
but how would the stimulus bubble play out? the film really didn’t get into it.
the other problem is we all know had they not done what they did, Great Depression II would have been the case for sure. it would have taken someone really out there (aka Ron Paul) to restrain and not create the stimulus, because quite frankly, anybody else that was running for president would have done the stimulus as well. so does it take a global stimulus bubble that lead to complete and total financial collapse of the Western financial system to make Americans pick someone like Paul to bring back total financial discipline?
ocrenter
Participantthe tulip bubble, the railroad bubble, the countless real estate bubbles, the tech bubble, and the commodity bubble. these all make sense.
but how would the stimulus bubble play out? the film really didn’t get into it.
the other problem is we all know had they not done what they did, Great Depression II would have been the case for sure. it would have taken someone really out there (aka Ron Paul) to restrain and not create the stimulus, because quite frankly, anybody else that was running for president would have done the stimulus as well. so does it take a global stimulus bubble that lead to complete and total financial collapse of the Western financial system to make Americans pick someone like Paul to bring back total financial discipline?
ocrenter
Participantthe tulip bubble, the railroad bubble, the countless real estate bubbles, the tech bubble, and the commodity bubble. these all make sense.
but how would the stimulus bubble play out? the film really didn’t get into it.
the other problem is we all know had they not done what they did, Great Depression II would have been the case for sure. it would have taken someone really out there (aka Ron Paul) to restrain and not create the stimulus, because quite frankly, anybody else that was running for president would have done the stimulus as well. so does it take a global stimulus bubble that lead to complete and total financial collapse of the Western financial system to make Americans pick someone like Paul to bring back total financial discipline?
September 5, 2010 at 1:42 PM in reply to: OT: Renting a place in NYC from Craiglist (2 weeks)… #600668ocrenter
ParticipantI swear in one of the pictures you can see the Niger delta out of the window!
j/k
September 5, 2010 at 1:42 PM in reply to: OT: Renting a place in NYC from Craiglist (2 weeks)… #600759ocrenter
ParticipantI swear in one of the pictures you can see the Niger delta out of the window!
j/k
September 5, 2010 at 1:42 PM in reply to: OT: Renting a place in NYC from Craiglist (2 weeks)… #601306ocrenter
ParticipantI swear in one of the pictures you can see the Niger delta out of the window!
j/k
September 5, 2010 at 1:42 PM in reply to: OT: Renting a place in NYC from Craiglist (2 weeks)… #601412ocrenter
ParticipantI swear in one of the pictures you can see the Niger delta out of the window!
j/k
September 5, 2010 at 1:42 PM in reply to: OT: Renting a place in NYC from Craiglist (2 weeks)… #601730ocrenter
ParticipantI swear in one of the pictures you can see the Niger delta out of the window!
j/k
September 5, 2010 at 1:39 PM in reply to: OT: so this is what our soldiers are dying for in Afghanistan? #600663ocrenter
Participant[quote=briansd1]
I don’t see why homosexuality should be prevented. Gays lead perfectly happy, creative lives, if only we just let them.
Gays have created great things and we would lose a lot if homosexuality were prevented.
To me, heterosexuality or homosexuality are equally as healthy.
I believe we are all bi-sexual but that we lean one way or the other. The environment then reinforces certain behavior. As you pointed out, availability has a lot to do with desire. Males, or females, people generally make do with what they can get.[/quote]
not saying that homosexuality should be prevented. just that the science will evolve to a point where homosexuality can be prevented. and even thought we as a society is making great stride to provide equality for them, there will always be a desire on the part of parents to have “normal” heterosexual children. and given the choice, most parents will say yes to preventive therapy that will prevent their children from being homosexual.
just saying that paradoxically, advances in science will help homosexuals in their argument that it is biological and therefore they should have equal rights, but the same science may lead to their eventual decline in number.
September 5, 2010 at 1:39 PM in reply to: OT: so this is what our soldiers are dying for in Afghanistan? #600754ocrenter
Participant[quote=briansd1]
I don’t see why homosexuality should be prevented. Gays lead perfectly happy, creative lives, if only we just let them.
Gays have created great things and we would lose a lot if homosexuality were prevented.
To me, heterosexuality or homosexuality are equally as healthy.
I believe we are all bi-sexual but that we lean one way or the other. The environment then reinforces certain behavior. As you pointed out, availability has a lot to do with desire. Males, or females, people generally make do with what they can get.[/quote]
not saying that homosexuality should be prevented. just that the science will evolve to a point where homosexuality can be prevented. and even thought we as a society is making great stride to provide equality for them, there will always be a desire on the part of parents to have “normal” heterosexual children. and given the choice, most parents will say yes to preventive therapy that will prevent their children from being homosexual.
just saying that paradoxically, advances in science will help homosexuals in their argument that it is biological and therefore they should have equal rights, but the same science may lead to their eventual decline in number.
September 5, 2010 at 1:39 PM in reply to: OT: so this is what our soldiers are dying for in Afghanistan? #601301ocrenter
Participant[quote=briansd1]
I don’t see why homosexuality should be prevented. Gays lead perfectly happy, creative lives, if only we just let them.
Gays have created great things and we would lose a lot if homosexuality were prevented.
To me, heterosexuality or homosexuality are equally as healthy.
I believe we are all bi-sexual but that we lean one way or the other. The environment then reinforces certain behavior. As you pointed out, availability has a lot to do with desire. Males, or females, people generally make do with what they can get.[/quote]
not saying that homosexuality should be prevented. just that the science will evolve to a point where homosexuality can be prevented. and even thought we as a society is making great stride to provide equality for them, there will always be a desire on the part of parents to have “normal” heterosexual children. and given the choice, most parents will say yes to preventive therapy that will prevent their children from being homosexual.
just saying that paradoxically, advances in science will help homosexuals in their argument that it is biological and therefore they should have equal rights, but the same science may lead to their eventual decline in number.
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