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ocrenter
Participantall very good and well thought-out comments. we are ultimately back at nature vs nurture. of course, the debate will never end because this is a multi-factorial problem, meaning we simply will not have a single solution for every alcoholics out there.
brian, get your friend to a psychiatrist specializing in chemical dependency. how to get him there will of course be the toughest part.
here’s a good read on the subject:
ocrenter
Participant[quote=temeculaguy]
On a side note, and please do not make political comments, but Obama is #492 out of almost 6,000,000 entrants into the espn bracket contest. I’m sitting at about 3,200,000 in the rankings and I spend more time than I care to admit following this stuff and I don’t run a large country as my day job.[/quote]
you do realize the First-Brother-In-Law has the inside scoop.
ocrenter
Participant[quote=temeculaguy]
On a side note, and please do not make political comments, but Obama is #492 out of almost 6,000,000 entrants into the espn bracket contest. I’m sitting at about 3,200,000 in the rankings and I spend more time than I care to admit following this stuff and I don’t run a large country as my day job.[/quote]
you do realize the First-Brother-In-Law has the inside scoop.
ocrenter
Participant[quote=temeculaguy]
On a side note, and please do not make political comments, but Obama is #492 out of almost 6,000,000 entrants into the espn bracket contest. I’m sitting at about 3,200,000 in the rankings and I spend more time than I care to admit following this stuff and I don’t run a large country as my day job.[/quote]
you do realize the First-Brother-In-Law has the inside scoop.
ocrenter
Participant[quote=temeculaguy]
On a side note, and please do not make political comments, but Obama is #492 out of almost 6,000,000 entrants into the espn bracket contest. I’m sitting at about 3,200,000 in the rankings and I spend more time than I care to admit following this stuff and I don’t run a large country as my day job.[/quote]
you do realize the First-Brother-In-Law has the inside scoop.
ocrenter
Participant[quote=temeculaguy]
On a side note, and please do not make political comments, but Obama is #492 out of almost 6,000,000 entrants into the espn bracket contest. I’m sitting at about 3,200,000 in the rankings and I spend more time than I care to admit following this stuff and I don’t run a large country as my day job.[/quote]
you do realize the First-Brother-In-Law has the inside scoop.
ocrenter
Participant[quote=briansd1]
The thing about military might is that it went to our heads. We are addicted to being the most powerful…
Our soldiers who come from low social economic backgrounds are becoming the security service workers of the world. They go around the world providing security much like we import people to clean our houses and pick our produce.[/quote]
good point, power can be intoxicating and addictive. to the point that we lose our focus and we become blind of the fact that a lot of folks are simply freeloading off us.
ocrenter
Participant[quote=briansd1]
The thing about military might is that it went to our heads. We are addicted to being the most powerful…
Our soldiers who come from low social economic backgrounds are becoming the security service workers of the world. They go around the world providing security much like we import people to clean our houses and pick our produce.[/quote]
good point, power can be intoxicating and addictive. to the point that we lose our focus and we become blind of the fact that a lot of folks are simply freeloading off us.
ocrenter
Participant[quote=briansd1]
The thing about military might is that it went to our heads. We are addicted to being the most powerful…
Our soldiers who come from low social economic backgrounds are becoming the security service workers of the world. They go around the world providing security much like we import people to clean our houses and pick our produce.[/quote]
good point, power can be intoxicating and addictive. to the point that we lose our focus and we become blind of the fact that a lot of folks are simply freeloading off us.
ocrenter
Participant[quote=briansd1]
The thing about military might is that it went to our heads. We are addicted to being the most powerful…
Our soldiers who come from low social economic backgrounds are becoming the security service workers of the world. They go around the world providing security much like we import people to clean our houses and pick our produce.[/quote]
good point, power can be intoxicating and addictive. to the point that we lose our focus and we become blind of the fact that a lot of folks are simply freeloading off us.
ocrenter
Participant[quote=briansd1]
The thing about military might is that it went to our heads. We are addicted to being the most powerful…
Our soldiers who come from low social economic backgrounds are becoming the security service workers of the world. They go around the world providing security much like we import people to clean our houses and pick our produce.[/quote]
good point, power can be intoxicating and addictive. to the point that we lose our focus and we become blind of the fact that a lot of folks are simply freeloading off us.
ocrenter
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Start with defense, and then go after corporate welfare, farm subsidies (which are all going to massive corporations), and every other friggin’ entitlement program out there.
Spread the pain, baby. We also need to do that same shit here in California. Cut spending and raise taxes.[/quote]
well said. this is the only way out. nothing is sacred! not even mortgage deductions.
ocrenter
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Start with defense, and then go after corporate welfare, farm subsidies (which are all going to massive corporations), and every other friggin’ entitlement program out there.
Spread the pain, baby. We also need to do that same shit here in California. Cut spending and raise taxes.[/quote]
well said. this is the only way out. nothing is sacred! not even mortgage deductions.
ocrenter
Participant[quote=Allan from Fallbrook]
Start with defense, and then go after corporate welfare, farm subsidies (which are all going to massive corporations), and every other friggin’ entitlement program out there.
Spread the pain, baby. We also need to do that same shit here in California. Cut spending and raise taxes.[/quote]
well said. this is the only way out. nothing is sacred! not even mortgage deductions.
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