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June 20, 2013 at 8:36 AM in reply to: Another excellent Economist Mag article on the terrible state pension issues #763066June 20, 2013 at 8:33 AM in reply to: San Diego City Council passes prevailing wage ordinance for city contractors #763065
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Are these reputable licensed contractors all bad because they pay a “living wage” in a town where there is are undocumented immigrants available everywhere to undercut them who have NO workers comp insurance, little to no tools of the their own and no formal training whatsoever?
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What a red herring. None of the above could compete on a city contract.
The solution to two laws being broken isn’t passing a third law.
Finally, supporting union scale laws and living wage are two different things. Frankly, I think our society as a whole would benefit greatly from the downsizing of our consumption that a living wage getting apply to retail and restaurants.
In San Diego, that would be about $25/hr. Living wage is typically derived from the equating housing expenses for a one bedroom apartment to being 1/3rd of your income. IMHO, it would put a massive dent in the sprawl of Starbucks, fast food joints and Target-marts littering the landscape.
It also would probably create a very French like unemployment in our younger population and a Greek like blackmarket of work.
It would solve the issue of “subsidizing” Walmarts for their employees being removing them from being partially on the public dole to fully on the public dole.
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ParticipantOpague? What could possibly be opague.
LAUSD awards $30 million contract for iPads
[quote]…The push for tablets came from schools Supt. John Deasy, who made it his goal to close the technology gap for the overwhelming majority of low-income district students. He expects to pay for the tablets with school construction bonds, a controversial source because they are repaid over decades. Such bonds typically are used to build and modernize campuses.[/quote]
Never mind that to provide iPads for every teacher and every student at $678/piece as quoted in the article is really a $480 Million dollar commitment.
June 19, 2013 at 10:06 AM in reply to: Another excellent Economist Mag article on the terrible state pension issues #763023no_such_reality
ParticipantBecause it’s an irrelevant argument that they keep going in circles on trying to get anything to stick because they can’t address the issues that we have more REAL taxes per person today collected, we have more REAL property tax per person today collected and the we spend more REAL money today per person than before the proposition the “broke” California.
That California government spending is growing faster than the economy, our population or inflation.
Their argument is emotional ‘it’s not fair’ we need a bigger bucket of money.
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ParticipantBudget Bill could limit public’s access to Government Documents
[quote]SACRAMENTO — Gov. Jerry Brown is poised to sign legislation that could reduce the public’s access to basic government records that have long been used to scrutinize the actions of elected officials.
The proposal, a late insert into the state budget that lawmakers passed last week, would allow local officials to opt out of parts of the California law that gives citizens access to government documents.
Under that law, officials now must respond to a request for records from a member of the public within 10 days and are required to make the documents available electronically. The change, which Brown requested as a cost-cutting measure, would allow the officials to skip both requirements with a voice vote.
The same vote would permit them to reject requests without explanation and would no longer require them to help citizens identify existing information.
Brown and other defenders of the legislation predict that it would have little effect — that most local governments would choose to abide by the old rules. But the California Newspaper Publishers Assn. called the measure a stealth attack on government transparency and a blow to the public’s right to information.
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[/quote]June 19, 2013 at 8:17 AM in reply to: Another excellent Economist Mag article on the terrible state pension issues #763014no_such_reality
ParticipantAdjusted for population growth and inflation, San Diego county collects more property tax today than it did in 1977.
In 1977, San Diego county tax asset collections with $639 million. In 2012, San Deigo county property tax collections where $4.55 Billion.
In that time period, San Diego county population grew 85%. In that time period, inflation went up 253%.
Collectively, adjusting for population growth and inflation, you need to collection $6.53 in 2012 for every dollar in 1977.
San Diego is collecting $7.12…
You’re collecting more real dollar taxes per person after prop 13.
June 18, 2013 at 4:30 PM in reply to: Another excellent Economist Mag article on the terrible state pension issues #762973no_such_reality
Participant[quote=CA renter]
We’re not talking about “fair,” Flyer. We’re talking about subsidies that should NEVER have happened. If we’re going to talk about taking from workers who’ve EARNED their money, the rentier parasites will have their heads on the chopping block first.[/quote]Have you been drinking? You’re on your EARNED bender again.
June 18, 2013 at 4:20 PM in reply to: Another excellent Economist Mag article on the terrible state pension issues #762971no_such_reality
Participant[quote=CA renter]
And I’m not talking about adding *new* taxes. I’m talking about eliminating the subsidies for landlords, large tract owners, commercial/industrial property owners, etc. that were passed with Prop 13 because THOSE TAXPAYER-FUNDED SUBSIDIES — BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF DOLLARS — SHOULD NEVER HAVE EXISTED IN THE FIRST PLACE.Prop 13 broke California,(snip)[/quote]
Since 1978, California’s real GDP per capita grew by 0.97% per annum.
Since 1978-1979 FY, California real government spending sans Federal Funds, has grown by 1.5% per annum per capita.
For the last 30 years we’ve averaged the government growing 50% faster than the economy.
June 18, 2013 at 2:39 PM in reply to: Another excellent Economist Mag article on the terrible state pension issues #762960no_such_reality
Participant[quote=bearishgurl]
How much of a portion of CA’s population influx actually pays any property taxes at all? And what is the percentage of CA’s landowner population influx since 1978 that pays market rate taxes for their parcel(s).And even if a CA home-owning family IS paying market-rate property taxes of say $5,700 yr (no MR), are located in a municipality which offers them sidewalks, street lights and storm drains and have two kids in public school, how much do you think it costs annually for all levels of gubment to service this family?
Take a stab at it, NSR.[/quote]
BG, per CAPITA, adjusted for inflation, MORE is collected now.
The problem you highlight is that spending has grown even FASTER than inflation and population growth.
No economies of scale, no efficiencies, it’s gotten more EXPENSIVE faster than inflation and population growth.
For every person in the state we had previously, if we collected $10 in property tax, today, after factoring inflation, we collect $11 per person in the state.
June 18, 2013 at 1:51 PM in reply to: Another excellent Economist Mag article on the terrible state pension issues #762955no_such_reality
Participant[quote=SK in CV][quote=bearishgurl]
We can’t have it both ways … that is … 40%+?? of CA’s landowners paying 1/10th of 1% of the current market value of their properties due to artificially low assessments which will NEVER catch up to even being close to the market value…[/quote]Do you know this 40% number is right or are you just guessing at it? I have no idea. [/quote]
She’s guessing. As is anybody blaming Prop 13. The simple truth is that property tax collections, have risen faster than inflation and population growth since before prop 13 was passed.
In other words, adjust the property taxes collection just before prop 13 passed for inflation and population growth and we collect more now.
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ParticipantYea, I have no delusions that Romney would be any different. Okay, I do. I don’t think he’d be anywhere nearly as convincing with the lies and more people would be screaming.
I’m completely confident that the program would still be running. And doubt he’d have any intention of dismantling it until the cookie jar is slammed shut and almost takes hand off.
Unfortunately, I suspect Snowden is blowing smoke like the guy with wikileaks. While I’m sure our government is doing plenty of questionable things, IMHO, the American peole won’t care as long as it’s directed outward, at China, Russia, middle east.
About the only thing that will phase them is an expose that the level directed internally is even larger and that the military programs to use AI bots to shape social media and public opinion are actually full blown active programs.
I suspect they are.
June 18, 2013 at 8:04 AM in reply to: Another excellent Economist Mag article on the terrible state pension issues #762940no_such_reality
Participant[quote=CA renter](the best possible public employees who provide for our safety and security); with Prop 13 subsidies to landlords/landowners, we get NOTHING in return.[/quote]
Meanwhile, back in reality, let’s go watch the Kelly Thomas beating to death video…
Let’s review the two Hispanic women in the bright blue Tacoma getting shot up dozens of times while the police look for a large black man in a full size Nissan. Oops there goes another multi-million dollar settlement.
Let’s review the Marine father in San Clemente shot to death, oops there goes another multi-million dollar settlement.
Let’s review the LAUSD child abuse files, they’re almost as bad as the Catholic church’s IMHO.
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Sorry CAR, but that trite dog walk is galling given the continual spat of headlines. As the saying goes, one rotten apple spoils the bunch.
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ParticipantWow, right out of 1984
Obama: NSA secret data gathering “transparent”
[quote]WASHINGTON (AP) — President Barack Obama defended top secret National Security Agency spying programs as legal in a lengthy interview Monday, and called them transparent — even though they are authorized in secret.
“It is transparent,” Obama told PBS’s Charlie Rose in an interview to be broadcast Monday. “That’s why we set up the FISA court,” he added, referring to the secret court set up by the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act that authorizes two recently disclosed programs: one that gathers U.S. phone records and another that is designed to track the use of U.S.-based Internet servers by foreigners with possible links to terrorism.
The location of FISA courts is secret. The sessions are closed. The orders that result from hearings in which only government lawyers are present are classified.[/quote]
June 17, 2013 at 1:37 PM in reply to: Another excellent Economist Mag article on the terrible state pension issues #762892no_such_reality
ParticipantIMHO, the unions have repeatedly said how they DIDN’T ask for the 3% formulas. Seems like the easiest fix is to give up the unrealistic 3% formulas.
That’s really were the problem is, 3% at 50 or 55. People retiring with an 8-90% of max year payout with 37 years of life expectancy left.
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Participant[quote=KIBU]The point is that if one is barred from being able to buy a weapon due to some issues with one’s criminal/mental background, it makes sense that he/she would also be barred from being able to buy the parts. It’s just a loophole.[/quote]
Yea, because someone that will take the time to source basic gun components, then build a gun, test it and then leave an apologetic note for the rampage he’s going to do isn’t going to find another destructive device to use, such as a pressure cooker.
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