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ParticipantWe can bail them out on the government dole or let them bk and a bunch go on the government dole.
Either way, it’s the government dole, which is yours and my taxes.
There is an advantage to bankruptcy though. The workers will be on the government dole directly and all the denial and lies about the welfare will have to stop. A bailout is welfare. The GM job bank with a bailout is a welfare. Unemployment insurance, WIC, etc, is welfare and if they need it, give it, but cripes, lets call a handout a handout.
So put them on the government dole, make them look in the mirror and admit that they are getting WELFARE. Maybe some of them will then get jobs that actually produce more than they suck up.
ParticipantWe can bail them out on the government dole or let them bk and a bunch go on the government dole.
Either way, it’s the government dole, which is yours and my taxes.
There is an advantage to bankruptcy though. The workers will be on the government dole directly and all the denial and lies about the welfare will have to stop. A bailout is welfare. The GM job bank with a bailout is a welfare. Unemployment insurance, WIC, etc, is welfare and if they need it, give it, but cripes, lets call a handout a handout.
So put them on the government dole, make them look in the mirror and admit that they are getting WELFARE. Maybe some of them will then get jobs that actually produce more than they suck up.
ParticipantWe can bail them out on the government dole or let them bk and a bunch go on the government dole.
Either way, it’s the government dole, which is yours and my taxes.
There is an advantage to bankruptcy though. The workers will be on the government dole directly and all the denial and lies about the welfare will have to stop. A bailout is welfare. The GM job bank with a bailout is a welfare. Unemployment insurance, WIC, etc, is welfare and if they need it, give it, but cripes, lets call a handout a handout.
So put them on the government dole, make them look in the mirror and admit that they are getting WELFARE. Maybe some of them will then get jobs that actually produce more than they suck up.
ParticipantGM’s cost structure is too high, they lost money on Saturns.
Time for GM to BK and get restructured. If there isn’t a restructure, we’ll just through a few billion dollars at it every quarter.
ParticipantGM’s cost structure is too high, they lost money on Saturns.
Time for GM to BK and get restructured. If there isn’t a restructure, we’ll just through a few billion dollars at it every quarter.
ParticipantGM’s cost structure is too high, they lost money on Saturns.
Time for GM to BK and get restructured. If there isn’t a restructure, we’ll just through a few billion dollars at it every quarter.
ParticipantGM’s cost structure is too high, they lost money on Saturns.
Time for GM to BK and get restructured. If there isn’t a restructure, we’ll just through a few billion dollars at it every quarter.
ParticipantGM’s cost structure is too high, they lost money on Saturns.
Time for GM to BK and get restructured. If there isn’t a restructure, we’ll just through a few billion dollars at it every quarter.
March 1, 2009 at 9:24 AM in reply to: CNBC Anchors Mortified that Ron Paul Was Allowed Air Time #357625ParticipantThe press has become an embittered biased organization that no longer reports the facts of the news but instead favors blatant propaganda.
March 1, 2009 at 9:24 AM in reply to: CNBC Anchors Mortified that Ron Paul Was Allowed Air Time #357927ParticipantThe press has become an embittered biased organization that no longer reports the facts of the news but instead favors blatant propaganda.
March 1, 2009 at 9:24 AM in reply to: CNBC Anchors Mortified that Ron Paul Was Allowed Air Time #358068ParticipantThe press has become an embittered biased organization that no longer reports the facts of the news but instead favors blatant propaganda.
March 1, 2009 at 9:24 AM in reply to: CNBC Anchors Mortified that Ron Paul Was Allowed Air Time #358099ParticipantThe press has become an embittered biased organization that no longer reports the facts of the news but instead favors blatant propaganda.
March 1, 2009 at 9:24 AM in reply to: CNBC Anchors Mortified that Ron Paul Was Allowed Air Time #358205ParticipantThe press has become an embittered biased organization that no longer reports the facts of the news but instead favors blatant propaganda.
ParticipantNavydoc,
perhaps an easier question. What’s the probability of implanting six and having all six take.
When I said remote, I didn’t mean winning the lottery odds, I meant in comparison to the liklihood that the mother isn’t telling the truth.
The ethics boards have restrictions or guidelines on implanting more than three because of the increased risk of multiple pregnancies, but even then, if it was highly likely than all would take, then implanting three would even be suspect.
If the odds of an implanted embryo taking and maturing is 90%, if they’re independent (meaning each doens’t improve the liklihood of the others) then the odds of all six taking fall to 50/50.
At 80% success rate, 4 in 5 attempts succeeding, the odds of all six taking falls to 25%.
The reality is in vitro success rate is in the 30-35% rate for women under 35 years of age.
For all six to take at a 35% rate, it’s 0.2% or 2 in 1000. From the 2 in a thousand shot, we now would need two of the six embroyos to split into viable twins.
Given observations of the mother’s interviews, I’d say the odds she isn’t telling the truth are in excess of 10%.
The probablility of 6 for 6 succeeding and then splitting for twins, less than 1%, probably closer to 0.01%.
Could it happen, yes.
But that misses the point too. Even implanting six when you have no job and six children is, IMHO, irresponsible.
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