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ParticipantIf there is no money to pay, there will be a way of getting around it. how about pay them what the state owes and then fire them all and rehire with a different pension system. Reagan fired all air traffic controllers in 1983.
[quote=pri_dk][quote=desmond]”In the governor’s proposed budget, the state payment to CalPERS increases from $3.8 billion to $4.1 billion, CalSTRS from $1.3 billion to $1.4 billion, and retiree health care from $1.4 billion to $1.6 billion”
This does impact the budget and now it is impacting the State even more:http://calpensions.com/%5B/quote%5D
Fair points.
Although unfortunately some of these increases may be mandated the law. The state really screwed itself when it made these pension promises – there’s essentially no legal way out of it.[/quote]
ParticipantIf there is no money to pay, there will be a way of getting around it. how about pay them what the state owes and then fire them all and rehire with a different pension system. Reagan fired all air traffic controllers in 1983.
[quote=pri_dk][quote=desmond]”In the governor’s proposed budget, the state payment to CalPERS increases from $3.8 billion to $4.1 billion, CalSTRS from $1.3 billion to $1.4 billion, and retiree health care from $1.4 billion to $1.6 billion”
This does impact the budget and now it is impacting the State even more:http://calpensions.com/%5B/quote%5D
Fair points.
Although unfortunately some of these increases may be mandated the law. The state really screwed itself when it made these pension promises – there’s essentially no legal way out of it.[/quote]
ParticipantIf there is no money to pay, there will be a way of getting around it. how about pay them what the state owes and then fire them all and rehire with a different pension system. Reagan fired all air traffic controllers in 1983.
[quote=pri_dk][quote=desmond]”In the governor’s proposed budget, the state payment to CalPERS increases from $3.8 billion to $4.1 billion, CalSTRS from $1.3 billion to $1.4 billion, and retiree health care from $1.4 billion to $1.6 billion”
This does impact the budget and now it is impacting the State even more:http://calpensions.com/%5B/quote%5D
Fair points.
Although unfortunately some of these increases may be mandated the law. The state really screwed itself when it made these pension promises – there’s essentially no legal way out of it.[/quote]
ParticipantIf there is no money to pay, there will be a way of getting around it. how about pay them what the state owes and then fire them all and rehire with a different pension system. Reagan fired all air traffic controllers in 1983.
[quote=pri_dk][quote=desmond]”In the governor’s proposed budget, the state payment to CalPERS increases from $3.8 billion to $4.1 billion, CalSTRS from $1.3 billion to $1.4 billion, and retiree health care from $1.4 billion to $1.6 billion”
This does impact the budget and now it is impacting the State even more:http://calpensions.com/%5B/quote%5D
Fair points.
Although unfortunately some of these increases may be mandated the law. The state really screwed itself when it made these pension promises – there’s essentially no legal way out of it.[/quote]
ParticipantIf there is no money to pay, there will be a way of getting around it. how about pay them what the state owes and then fire them all and rehire with a different pension system. Reagan fired all air traffic controllers in 1983.
[quote=pri_dk][quote=desmond]”In the governor’s proposed budget, the state payment to CalPERS increases from $3.8 billion to $4.1 billion, CalSTRS from $1.3 billion to $1.4 billion, and retiree health care from $1.4 billion to $1.6 billion”
This does impact the budget and now it is impacting the State even more:http://calpensions.com/%5B/quote%5D
Fair points.
Although unfortunately some of these increases may be mandated the law. The state really screwed itself when it made these pension promises – there’s essentially no legal way out of it.[/quote]
ParticipantThe problem with ‘average’ is that it will include part time teachers and teacher aides.
[quote=pri_dk][quote=ninaprincess]From the article, the higher range salaries are much higher than the mid career number. So mid career is not the MAX. “The highest salaries offered range from $91,144 at Fountain Valley Elementary to $111,701 at Laguna Beach.[/quote]
How about source that just provides the *average* instead of selectively choosing the highest numbers to make an argument?
What is the (unqualified) average teacher salary in the state of CA?
I have no doubt it’s way south of $86K.[/quote]
ParticipantThe problem with ‘average’ is that it will include part time teachers and teacher aides.
[quote=pri_dk][quote=ninaprincess]From the article, the higher range salaries are much higher than the mid career number. So mid career is not the MAX. “The highest salaries offered range from $91,144 at Fountain Valley Elementary to $111,701 at Laguna Beach.[/quote]
How about source that just provides the *average* instead of selectively choosing the highest numbers to make an argument?
What is the (unqualified) average teacher salary in the state of CA?
I have no doubt it’s way south of $86K.[/quote]
ParticipantThe problem with ‘average’ is that it will include part time teachers and teacher aides.
[quote=pri_dk][quote=ninaprincess]From the article, the higher range salaries are much higher than the mid career number. So mid career is not the MAX. “The highest salaries offered range from $91,144 at Fountain Valley Elementary to $111,701 at Laguna Beach.[/quote]
How about source that just provides the *average* instead of selectively choosing the highest numbers to make an argument?
What is the (unqualified) average teacher salary in the state of CA?
I have no doubt it’s way south of $86K.[/quote]
ParticipantThe problem with ‘average’ is that it will include part time teachers and teacher aides.
[quote=pri_dk][quote=ninaprincess]From the article, the higher range salaries are much higher than the mid career number. So mid career is not the MAX. “The highest salaries offered range from $91,144 at Fountain Valley Elementary to $111,701 at Laguna Beach.[/quote]
How about source that just provides the *average* instead of selectively choosing the highest numbers to make an argument?
What is the (unqualified) average teacher salary in the state of CA?
I have no doubt it’s way south of $86K.[/quote]
ParticipantThe problem with ‘average’ is that it will include part time teachers and teacher aides.
[quote=pri_dk][quote=ninaprincess]From the article, the higher range salaries are much higher than the mid career number. So mid career is not the MAX. “The highest salaries offered range from $91,144 at Fountain Valley Elementary to $111,701 at Laguna Beach.[/quote]
How about source that just provides the *average* instead of selectively choosing the highest numbers to make an argument?
What is the (unqualified) average teacher salary in the state of CA?
I have no doubt it’s way south of $86K.[/quote]
ParticipantI think mid career Engineers get around 100k for the same training, so 80k is not too much for teachers.
From the article, the higher range salaries are much higher than the mid career number. So mid career is not the MAX. “The highest salaries offered range from $91,144 at Fountain Valley Elementary to $111,701 at Laguna Beach.”
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11 weeks summer breakParticipantI think mid career Engineers get around 100k for the same training, so 80k is not too much for teachers.
From the article, the higher range salaries are much higher than the mid career number. So mid career is not the MAX. “The highest salaries offered range from $91,144 at Fountain Valley Elementary to $111,701 at Laguna Beach.”
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11 weeks summer breakParticipantI think mid career Engineers get around 100k for the same training, so 80k is not too much for teachers.
From the article, the higher range salaries are much higher than the mid career number. So mid career is not the MAX. “The highest salaries offered range from $91,144 at Fountain Valley Elementary to $111,701 at Laguna Beach.”
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2 weeks winter break
11 weeks summer breakParticipantI think mid career Engineers get around 100k for the same training, so 80k is not too much for teachers.
From the article, the higher range salaries are much higher than the mid career number. So mid career is not the MAX. “The highest salaries offered range from $91,144 at Fountain Valley Elementary to $111,701 at Laguna Beach.”
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