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[quote=briansd1][quote=gandalf]
As a percentage of income / wealth gains, did you pay more or less tax than last year?
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Most Tea Partiers don’t know.
It’s the Joe-the-Plumber and Sarah Palin mentality, remember? The two of them are in bed together.

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I paid higher effective tax rates in 2009 than in 2008 to both the state and the federal government. It’s all there in black and white on my income tax returns.

So you can understand why I have to laugh every time a liberal, including Obama, asserts that I’m paying lower taxes since he took office.

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[quote=briansd1][quote=gandalf]
As a percentage of income / wealth gains, did you pay more or less tax than last year?
[/quote]

Most Tea Partiers don’t know.
It’s the Joe-the-Plumber and Sarah Palin mentality, remember? The two of them are in bed together.

[/quote]

I paid higher effective tax rates in 2009 than in 2008 to both the state and the federal government. It’s all there in black and white on my income tax returns.

So you can understand why I have to laugh every time a liberal, including Obama, asserts that I’m paying lower taxes since he took office.

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[quote=briansd1][quote=gandalf]
As a percentage of income / wealth gains, did you pay more or less tax than last year?
[/quote]

Most Tea Partiers don’t know.
It’s the Joe-the-Plumber and Sarah Palin mentality, remember? The two of them are in bed together.

[/quote]

I paid higher effective tax rates in 2009 than in 2008 to both the state and the federal government. It’s all there in black and white on my income tax returns.

So you can understand why I have to laugh every time a liberal, including Obama, asserts that I’m paying lower taxes since he took office.

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[quote=briansd1][quote=gandalf]
As a percentage of income / wealth gains, did you pay more or less tax than last year?
[/quote]

Most Tea Partiers don’t know.
It’s the Joe-the-Plumber and Sarah Palin mentality, remember? The two of them are in bed together.

[/quote]

I paid higher effective tax rates in 2009 than in 2008 to both the state and the federal government. It’s all there in black and white on my income tax returns.

So you can understand why I have to laugh every time a liberal, including Obama, asserts that I’m paying lower taxes since he took office.

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[quote=gandalf]
I fully expect an ignorant and disingenuous outcry from anti-tax TEA-party idiots on the right (which includes lots of average means white people who mainly can’t get over the fact the President of the U.S. is a black dude).[/quote]

Dropping the race card just erased any credibility that you might have had. I’m getting awfully freaking tired of people calling anyone who disagrees with Obama’s POLICIES a racist.

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[quote=gandalf]
I fully expect an ignorant and disingenuous outcry from anti-tax TEA-party idiots on the right (which includes lots of average means white people who mainly can’t get over the fact the President of the U.S. is a black dude).[/quote]

Dropping the race card just erased any credibility that you might have had. I’m getting awfully freaking tired of people calling anyone who disagrees with Obama’s POLICIES a racist.

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[quote=gandalf]
I fully expect an ignorant and disingenuous outcry from anti-tax TEA-party idiots on the right (which includes lots of average means white people who mainly can’t get over the fact the President of the U.S. is a black dude).[/quote]

Dropping the race card just erased any credibility that you might have had. I’m getting awfully freaking tired of people calling anyone who disagrees with Obama’s POLICIES a racist.

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[quote=gandalf]
I fully expect an ignorant and disingenuous outcry from anti-tax TEA-party idiots on the right (which includes lots of average means white people who mainly can’t get over the fact the President of the U.S. is a black dude).[/quote]

Dropping the race card just erased any credibility that you might have had. I’m getting awfully freaking tired of people calling anyone who disagrees with Obama’s POLICIES a racist.

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[quote=gandalf]
I fully expect an ignorant and disingenuous outcry from anti-tax TEA-party idiots on the right (which includes lots of average means white people who mainly can’t get over the fact the President of the U.S. is a black dude).[/quote]

Dropping the race card just erased any credibility that you might have had. I’m getting awfully freaking tired of people calling anyone who disagrees with Obama’s POLICIES a racist.

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[quote=yooklid]Having grown up in Europe with a VAT, I can tell you one thing, we DON’T HAVE A SALES TAX. Does that mean that Sales taxes will be dropped in lieu of VAT?[/quote]

Nope…we’ll still have sales tax…and income tax and property tax. There are no plans on the table to have the VAT replace anything else. It will be IN ADDITION to current taxes.

So, assuming a 10% VAT that means that the sales tax rate will be 18+% in CA.

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[quote=yooklid]Having grown up in Europe with a VAT, I can tell you one thing, we DON’T HAVE A SALES TAX. Does that mean that Sales taxes will be dropped in lieu of VAT?[/quote]

Nope…we’ll still have sales tax…and income tax and property tax. There are no plans on the table to have the VAT replace anything else. It will be IN ADDITION to current taxes.

So, assuming a 10% VAT that means that the sales tax rate will be 18+% in CA.

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[quote=yooklid]Having grown up in Europe with a VAT, I can tell you one thing, we DON’T HAVE A SALES TAX. Does that mean that Sales taxes will be dropped in lieu of VAT?[/quote]

Nope…we’ll still have sales tax…and income tax and property tax. There are no plans on the table to have the VAT replace anything else. It will be IN ADDITION to current taxes.

So, assuming a 10% VAT that means that the sales tax rate will be 18+% in CA.

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[quote=yooklid]Having grown up in Europe with a VAT, I can tell you one thing, we DON’T HAVE A SALES TAX. Does that mean that Sales taxes will be dropped in lieu of VAT?[/quote]

Nope…we’ll still have sales tax…and income tax and property tax. There are no plans on the table to have the VAT replace anything else. It will be IN ADDITION to current taxes.

So, assuming a 10% VAT that means that the sales tax rate will be 18+% in CA.

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[quote=yooklid]Having grown up in Europe with a VAT, I can tell you one thing, we DON’T HAVE A SALES TAX. Does that mean that Sales taxes will be dropped in lieu of VAT?[/quote]

Nope…we’ll still have sales tax…and income tax and property tax. There are no plans on the table to have the VAT replace anything else. It will be IN ADDITION to current taxes.

So, assuming a 10% VAT that means that the sales tax rate will be 18+% in CA.

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[quote=CA renter]
With all due respect, the majority of people I’ve known who had to work 2-3 jobs were very, very poor. The wealthiest people I’ve known had to do the least amount of work, and what work they did do was much more pleasant than what most poor people do for a living.[/quote]

You need to get out more.

I do contract work. If I take on extra clients it means that instead of doing 40 hours a week of contract work I’m doing 50 or 60 or 70. Currently that’s profitable to me because the opportunity costs of having less time versus making more money (that isn’t just taxed away by the state/fed) is justified. When the Bush tax cuts expire at the end of this year it won’t make quite as much sense to work harder. When you are ‘poor’ and work overtime, you are compensated extra for it (time and a half, double-time). When I work overtime I get the same hourly rate but I get taxed more–the more I work, the less I make per hour.

At some point you just say “screw it”.

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