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ParticipantConcho:
The book is old with dated safety information, I believe. In the past, the high stance of older SUVs made them more dangerous to other drivers. However, recently, manufacturers have lowered the bumpers to meet with passenger cars and there is much more control for SUVs with new braking and suspension systems.
Sorry, but based on the study cited above, there is a statistically significant correlatation with larger cars and less traffic deaths. In sum, if you seek to lighten cars for gas mileage, the greater number of deaths will result. So, in fact, many of these liberal drivers will not be around in 10 years(but, at least, they will have succeeded in their aims at population control).
Like a lot of logic from my liberal friends, the issue is mispresented. The issue is not my lack of concern for fellow drivers by buying a large SUV; Really, it is why should I endanger my family because some smug hybrid driver tells me it is good for the environment and they are afraid of an SUV? They, not me, decided to purchase the shiny small deathtrap to save on gas and feel good about themselves. That’s their choice. I’m cool with it, but I wouldn’t endanger my family or myself to feel happy about what I’m doing for global warming, etc. (Go ahead and call me a selfish political indpendent!)
Lastly, if you truly want to be a truly “green” driver, why don’t you buy a motorcycle, too, for those small trips . . . they get great gas mileage.
ParticipantConcho:
The book is old with dated safety information, I believe. In the past, the high stance of older SUVs made them more dangerous to other drivers. However, recently, manufacturers have lowered the bumpers to meet with passenger cars and there is much more control for SUVs with new braking and suspension systems.
Sorry, but based on the study cited above, there is a statistically significant correlatation with larger cars and less traffic deaths. In sum, if you seek to lighten cars for gas mileage, the greater number of deaths will result. So, in fact, many of these liberal drivers will not be around in 10 years(but, at least, they will have succeeded in their aims at population control).
Like a lot of logic from my liberal friends, the issue is mispresented. The issue is not my lack of concern for fellow drivers by buying a large SUV; Really, it is why should I endanger my family because some smug hybrid driver tells me it is good for the environment and they are afraid of an SUV? They, not me, decided to purchase the shiny small deathtrap to save on gas and feel good about themselves. That’s their choice. I’m cool with it, but I wouldn’t endanger my family or myself to feel happy about what I’m doing for global warming, etc. (Go ahead and call me a selfish political indpendent!)
Lastly, if you truly want to be a truly “green” driver, why don’t you buy a motorcycle, too, for those small trips . . . they get great gas mileage.
ParticipantConcho:
The book is old with dated safety information, I believe. In the past, the high stance of older SUVs made them more dangerous to other drivers. However, recently, manufacturers have lowered the bumpers to meet with passenger cars and there is much more control for SUVs with new braking and suspension systems.
Sorry, but based on the study cited above, there is a statistically significant correlatation with larger cars and less traffic deaths. In sum, if you seek to lighten cars for gas mileage, the greater number of deaths will result. So, in fact, many of these liberal drivers will not be around in 10 years(but, at least, they will have succeeded in their aims at population control).
Like a lot of logic from my liberal friends, the issue is mispresented. The issue is not my lack of concern for fellow drivers by buying a large SUV; Really, it is why should I endanger my family because some smug hybrid driver tells me it is good for the environment and they are afraid of an SUV? They, not me, decided to purchase the shiny small deathtrap to save on gas and feel good about themselves. That’s their choice. I’m cool with it, but I wouldn’t endanger my family or myself to feel happy about what I’m doing for global warming, etc. (Go ahead and call me a selfish political indpendent!)
Lastly, if you truly want to be a truly “green” driver, why don’t you buy a motorcycle, too, for those small trips . . . they get great gas mileage.
ParticipantConcho:
The book is old with dated safety information, I believe. In the past, the high stance of older SUVs made them more dangerous to other drivers. However, recently, manufacturers have lowered the bumpers to meet with passenger cars and there is much more control for SUVs with new braking and suspension systems.
Sorry, but based on the study cited above, there is a statistically significant correlatation with larger cars and less traffic deaths. In sum, if you seek to lighten cars for gas mileage, the greater number of deaths will result. So, in fact, many of these liberal drivers will not be around in 10 years(but, at least, they will have succeeded in their aims at population control).
Like a lot of logic from my liberal friends, the issue is mispresented. The issue is not my lack of concern for fellow drivers by buying a large SUV; Really, it is why should I endanger my family because some smug hybrid driver tells me it is good for the environment and they are afraid of an SUV? They, not me, decided to purchase the shiny small deathtrap to save on gas and feel good about themselves. That’s their choice. I’m cool with it, but I wouldn’t endanger my family or myself to feel happy about what I’m doing for global warming, etc. (Go ahead and call me a selfish political indpendent!)
Lastly, if you truly want to be a truly “green” driver, why don’t you buy a motorcycle, too, for those small trips . . . they get great gas mileage.
ParticipantI might try to deflate a little bit of the smugness on this board when it comes to SUVs. (I’m pretty conservative, but I drive a boring American sedan.) However, there is much to be said for larger cars for protecting families. Like many of the unintended consquences of the “Green” movement (food shortgages because of ethanol and limited domestic oil production), our highway fatalities will likely increase with many people driving in hybrids and cars like the Honda “Fit.” If I had a family, I would likely drive the largest car I could afford to fuel (while acknowledging that SOME of the SUVs are prone to rollovers).
Concerning increased deaths from smaller cars, here is a recent study below showing the correclation between higher CAFE standards and highway fatalities. (Many of you green types will have wished you were in a larger car as traffic suddently stops before you on the freeway and you’ve got no place to go.)
God love ’em for their concern for the environment (and attempting to keep us off foreign oil, etc.), but I find many of my single liberal friends only see the world through their lense and have a difficult time putting themselves into other people’s shoes. If you have a family . . . you do not want to be cramming the two children you love more than anything in a Prius. I’ve even heard flack about mini-vans being too large . . . again they didn’t have any kids. Why not strap the kids on a backpack and take them around on a motorcycle?
Here’s the information on the CAFE standards and increased highway deaths: http://www.nationalcenter.org/NPA546CAFEStandards.html
ParticipantI might try to deflate a little bit of the smugness on this board when it comes to SUVs. (I’m pretty conservative, but I drive a boring American sedan.) However, there is much to be said for larger cars for protecting families. Like many of the unintended consquences of the “Green” movement (food shortgages because of ethanol and limited domestic oil production), our highway fatalities will likely increase with many people driving in hybrids and cars like the Honda “Fit.” If I had a family, I would likely drive the largest car I could afford to fuel (while acknowledging that SOME of the SUVs are prone to rollovers).
Concerning increased deaths from smaller cars, here is a recent study below showing the correclation between higher CAFE standards and highway fatalities. (Many of you green types will have wished you were in a larger car as traffic suddently stops before you on the freeway and you’ve got no place to go.)
God love ’em for their concern for the environment (and attempting to keep us off foreign oil, etc.), but I find many of my single liberal friends only see the world through their lense and have a difficult time putting themselves into other people’s shoes. If you have a family . . . you do not want to be cramming the two children you love more than anything in a Prius. I’ve even heard flack about mini-vans being too large . . . again they didn’t have any kids. Why not strap the kids on a backpack and take them around on a motorcycle?
Here’s the information on the CAFE standards and increased highway deaths: http://www.nationalcenter.org/NPA546CAFEStandards.html
ParticipantI might try to deflate a little bit of the smugness on this board when it comes to SUVs. (I’m pretty conservative, but I drive a boring American sedan.) However, there is much to be said for larger cars for protecting families. Like many of the unintended consquences of the “Green” movement (food shortgages because of ethanol and limited domestic oil production), our highway fatalities will likely increase with many people driving in hybrids and cars like the Honda “Fit.” If I had a family, I would likely drive the largest car I could afford to fuel (while acknowledging that SOME of the SUVs are prone to rollovers).
Concerning increased deaths from smaller cars, here is a recent study below showing the correclation between higher CAFE standards and highway fatalities. (Many of you green types will have wished you were in a larger car as traffic suddently stops before you on the freeway and you’ve got no place to go.)
God love ’em for their concern for the environment (and attempting to keep us off foreign oil, etc.), but I find many of my single liberal friends only see the world through their lense and have a difficult time putting themselves into other people’s shoes. If you have a family . . . you do not want to be cramming the two children you love more than anything in a Prius. I’ve even heard flack about mini-vans being too large . . . again they didn’t have any kids. Why not strap the kids on a backpack and take them around on a motorcycle?
Here’s the information on the CAFE standards and increased highway deaths: http://www.nationalcenter.org/NPA546CAFEStandards.html
ParticipantI might try to deflate a little bit of the smugness on this board when it comes to SUVs. (I’m pretty conservative, but I drive a boring American sedan.) However, there is much to be said for larger cars for protecting families. Like many of the unintended consquences of the “Green” movement (food shortgages because of ethanol and limited domestic oil production), our highway fatalities will likely increase with many people driving in hybrids and cars like the Honda “Fit.” If I had a family, I would likely drive the largest car I could afford to fuel (while acknowledging that SOME of the SUVs are prone to rollovers).
Concerning increased deaths from smaller cars, here is a recent study below showing the correclation between higher CAFE standards and highway fatalities. (Many of you green types will have wished you were in a larger car as traffic suddently stops before you on the freeway and you’ve got no place to go.)
God love ’em for their concern for the environment (and attempting to keep us off foreign oil, etc.), but I find many of my single liberal friends only see the world through their lense and have a difficult time putting themselves into other people’s shoes. If you have a family . . . you do not want to be cramming the two children you love more than anything in a Prius. I’ve even heard flack about mini-vans being too large . . . again they didn’t have any kids. Why not strap the kids on a backpack and take them around on a motorcycle?
Here’s the information on the CAFE standards and increased highway deaths: http://www.nationalcenter.org/NPA546CAFEStandards.html
ParticipantI might try to deflate a little bit of the smugness on this board when it comes to SUVs. (I’m pretty conservative, but I drive a boring American sedan.) However, there is much to be said for larger cars for protecting families. Like many of the unintended consquences of the “Green” movement (food shortgages because of ethanol and limited domestic oil production), our highway fatalities will likely increase with many people driving in hybrids and cars like the Honda “Fit.” If I had a family, I would likely drive the largest car I could afford to fuel (while acknowledging that SOME of the SUVs are prone to rollovers).
Concerning increased deaths from smaller cars, here is a recent study below showing the correclation between higher CAFE standards and highway fatalities. (Many of you green types will have wished you were in a larger car as traffic suddently stops before you on the freeway and you’ve got no place to go.)
God love ’em for their concern for the environment (and attempting to keep us off foreign oil, etc.), but I find many of my single liberal friends only see the world through their lense and have a difficult time putting themselves into other people’s shoes. If you have a family . . . you do not want to be cramming the two children you love more than anything in a Prius. I’ve even heard flack about mini-vans being too large . . . again they didn’t have any kids. Why not strap the kids on a backpack and take them around on a motorcycle?
Here’s the information on the CAFE standards and increased highway deaths: http://www.nationalcenter.org/NPA546CAFEStandards.html
ParticipantYes, B.O. is safe if your a millionaire tech president with a nice ESOP or a Hollywood starlet who hasn’t graduated from college. His policies will not affect your daily life much.
On the other hand, if you’re a middle class or upper middle class professional trying to support a family, his fiscal policies, despite the pretty words, are a serious threat to your economic survival.
He is, afterall, the most liberal senator in the U.S. Senate. Offhand, the only one more liberal than B.O. is Hugo Chavez. (Sorry, had to feed the troll.)
ParticipantYes, B.O. is safe if your a millionaire tech president with a nice ESOP or a Hollywood starlet who hasn’t graduated from college. His policies will not affect your daily life much.
On the other hand, if you’re a middle class or upper middle class professional trying to support a family, his fiscal policies, despite the pretty words, are a serious threat to your economic survival.
He is, afterall, the most liberal senator in the U.S. Senate. Offhand, the only one more liberal than B.O. is Hugo Chavez. (Sorry, had to feed the troll.)
ParticipantYes, B.O. is safe if your a millionaire tech president with a nice ESOP or a Hollywood starlet who hasn’t graduated from college. His policies will not affect your daily life much.
On the other hand, if you’re a middle class or upper middle class professional trying to support a family, his fiscal policies, despite the pretty words, are a serious threat to your economic survival.
He is, afterall, the most liberal senator in the U.S. Senate. Offhand, the only one more liberal than B.O. is Hugo Chavez. (Sorry, had to feed the troll.)
ParticipantYes, B.O. is safe if your a millionaire tech president with a nice ESOP or a Hollywood starlet who hasn’t graduated from college. His policies will not affect your daily life much.
On the other hand, if you’re a middle class or upper middle class professional trying to support a family, his fiscal policies, despite the pretty words, are a serious threat to your economic survival.
He is, afterall, the most liberal senator in the U.S. Senate. Offhand, the only one more liberal than B.O. is Hugo Chavez. (Sorry, had to feed the troll.)
ParticipantYes, B.O. is safe if your a millionaire tech president with a nice ESOP or a Hollywood starlet who hasn’t graduated from college. His policies will not affect your daily life much.
On the other hand, if you’re a middle class or upper middle class professional trying to support a family, his fiscal policies, despite the pretty words, are a serious threat to your economic survival.
He is, afterall, the most liberal senator in the U.S. Senate. Offhand, the only one more liberal than B.O. is Hugo Chavez. (Sorry, had to feed the troll.)
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