[luchabee]

Urban: No sense of humor tonight?

Well, you first missed my original point with your initial comment. Then you missed the spirit of the comments with this last one. My comments were only thumbnail generalizations and were more or less as valid as the rural Republican generalizations made by the liberals on this board. (In all honesty, I really just liked the way I worded the original question.)

Anyway, with that said, generally speaking (and very generally), Republicans seem to flock to private sector enterprises and the creation of new businesses(which lead to more jobs for others poor folks like me) and a significant percentage of liberals flock to university and government jobs, which don’t do a lot to leverage and maximize capital.

Are there substantial exceptions and divergences?

Millions of fantastic liberal business people in the US? (Most aren’t too liberal, as we agreed.)

Of course . . . point well taken. Got it.

Really, the over-arching point to my brother-in-law was that liberal tax policies (if enacted and they might not be by Obama) may kill the golden goose of American business (especially in CA) and speed up our decline, a decline that is looking more and more like the U.K.’s economic decline before World War I when it started to face increasing US competition.

In sum, we are attempting to maintain our historic standard of living (for everyone) before we faced all of this international competition through increased government spending and taxes and creating “service and financial economies” . . . all of which were noble attempts, but we are papering over our problem. From a regulatory, tax, energy, and fiscal perspective, we must be more competitive to keep REAL jobs in the US, i.e. not investment bankers.

Based on current events, I hope it is not too late.

Take care.

[luchabee]

Urban: No sense of humor tonight?

Well, you first missed my original point with your initial comment. Then you missed the spirit of the comments with this last one. My comments were only thumbnail generalizations and were more or less as valid as the rural Republican generalizations made by the liberals on this board. (In all honesty, I really just liked the way I worded the original question.)

Anyway, with that said, generally speaking (and very generally), Republicans seem to flock to private sector enterprises and the creation of new businesses(which lead to more jobs for others poor folks like me) and a significant percentage of liberals flock to university and government jobs, which don’t do a lot to leverage and maximize capital.

Are there substantial exceptions and divergences?

Millions of fantastic liberal business people in the US? (Most aren’t too liberal, as we agreed.)

Of course . . . point well taken. Got it.

Really, the over-arching point to my brother-in-law was that liberal tax policies (if enacted and they might not be by Obama) may kill the golden goose of American business (especially in CA) and speed up our decline, a decline that is looking more and more like the U.K.’s economic decline before World War I when it started to face increasing US competition.

In sum, we are attempting to maintain our historic standard of living (for everyone) before we faced all of this international competition through increased government spending and taxes and creating “service and financial economies” . . . all of which were noble attempts, but we are papering over our problem. From a regulatory, tax, energy, and fiscal perspective, we must be more competitive to keep REAL jobs in the US, i.e. not investment bankers.

Based on current events, I hope it is not too late.

Take care.

[luchabee]

Urban: No sense of humor tonight?

Well, you first missed my original point with your initial comment. Then you missed the spirit of the comments with this last one. My comments were only thumbnail generalizations and were more or less as valid as the rural Republican generalizations made by the liberals on this board. (In all honesty, I really just liked the way I worded the original question.)

Anyway, with that said, generally speaking (and very generally), Republicans seem to flock to private sector enterprises and the creation of new businesses(which lead to more jobs for others poor folks like me) and a significant percentage of liberals flock to university and government jobs, which don’t do a lot to leverage and maximize capital.

Are there substantial exceptions and divergences?

Millions of fantastic liberal business people in the US? (Most aren’t too liberal, as we agreed.)

Of course . . . point well taken. Got it.

Really, the over-arching point to my brother-in-law was that liberal tax policies (if enacted and they might not be by Obama) may kill the golden goose of American business (especially in CA) and speed up our decline, a decline that is looking more and more like the U.K.’s economic decline before World War I when it started to face increasing US competition.

In sum, we are attempting to maintain our historic standard of living (for everyone) before we faced all of this international competition through increased government spending and taxes and creating “service and financial economies” . . . all of which were noble attempts, but we are papering over our problem. From a regulatory, tax, energy, and fiscal perspective, we must be more competitive to keep REAL jobs in the US, i.e. not investment bankers.

Based on current events, I hope it is not too late.

Take care.

[luchabee]

Urban: No sense of humor tonight?

Well, you first missed my original point with your initial comment. Then you missed the spirit of the comments with this last one. My comments were only thumbnail generalizations and were more or less as valid as the rural Republican generalizations made by the liberals on this board. (In all honesty, I really just liked the way I worded the original question.)

Anyway, with that said, generally speaking (and very generally), Republicans seem to flock to private sector enterprises and the creation of new businesses(which lead to more jobs for others poor folks like me) and a significant percentage of liberals flock to university and government jobs, which don’t do a lot to leverage and maximize capital.

Are there substantial exceptions and divergences?

Millions of fantastic liberal business people in the US? (Most aren’t too liberal, as we agreed.)

Of course . . . point well taken. Got it.

Really, the over-arching point to my brother-in-law was that liberal tax policies (if enacted and they might not be by Obama) may kill the golden goose of American business (especially in CA) and speed up our decline, a decline that is looking more and more like the U.K.’s economic decline before World War I when it started to face increasing US competition.

In sum, we are attempting to maintain our historic standard of living (for everyone) before we faced all of this international competition through increased government spending and taxes and creating “service and financial economies” . . . all of which were noble attempts, but we are papering over our problem. From a regulatory, tax, energy, and fiscal perspective, we must be more competitive to keep REAL jobs in the US, i.e. not investment bankers.

Based on current events, I hope it is not too late.

Take care.

[luchabee]

Urban: No sense of humor tonight?

Well, you first missed my original point with your initial comment. Then you missed the spirit of the comments with this last one. My comments were only thumbnail generalizations and were more or less as valid as the rural Republican generalizations made by the liberals on this board. (In all honesty, I really just liked the way I worded the original question.)

Anyway, with that said, generally speaking (and very generally), Republicans seem to flock to private sector enterprises and the creation of new businesses(which lead to more jobs for others poor folks like me) and a significant percentage of liberals flock to university and government jobs, which don’t do a lot to leverage and maximize capital.

Are there substantial exceptions and divergences?

Millions of fantastic liberal business people in the US? (Most aren’t too liberal, as we agreed.)

Of course . . . point well taken. Got it.

Really, the over-arching point to my brother-in-law was that liberal tax policies (if enacted and they might not be by Obama) may kill the golden goose of American business (especially in CA) and speed up our decline, a decline that is looking more and more like the U.K.’s economic decline before World War I when it started to face increasing US competition.

In sum, we are attempting to maintain our historic standard of living (for everyone) before we faced all of this international competition through increased government spending and taxes and creating “service and financial economies” . . . all of which were noble attempts, but we are papering over our problem. From a regulatory, tax, energy, and fiscal perspective, we must be more competitive to keep REAL jobs in the US, i.e. not investment bankers.

Based on current events, I hope it is not too late.

Take care.

[luchabee]

[quote=Kilohana][quote=luchabee]Urbanrealtor: You missed the point.

The point has never been “real jobs” (like a teacher versus an engineer), but jobs that create other jobs for poor people like me . . . For example, people who start businesses.

Again, some of hardcore liberals are big fans of regulating and taxing businesses at every opportunity.

As I mentioned to my brother-in-law, these far left-wing types will never give him a job, never hire people, never pay business taxes, etc., so he might want to think twice about jumping in bed with them politically (unless he can get a nice government job as an accountant). I know it’s a radical thought. [/quote]

Your premise seems to be that liberals don’t start small businesses.

I suppose you should post some data to support, considering that 52% of the voting population now qualifies as “liberal” by your standards.

I haven’t personally been employed by scary liberals, but my spouse and I do own several small businesses and have dozens of employees. Their response to the original thread question would be “yes.”

Realizing the plural of ‘anecdote’ is not ‘data’ – I thought I might contribute anyway.[/quote]

Well, I guess you wouldn’t take it on faith that we have a liberal media and liberal university system (I would)?

There are some things that are pretty self-evident, but I understand the request for data over anecdote.

Again, these are generalizations (and as generalized as the rural Republican comments).

Also, I couldn’t find any business school studies, etc. about political identification and business startups after one minute of searching on google, but I did find this:

Small Business Owners Back McCain, Believe Republican Party Holds the Key to Solving Issues Important to Small Businesses

Which party do you think is better for small business?

Republican
57%

I don’t think the party matters
25%

Democratic
18%

http://www.surepayroll.com/spsite/press/…

For whatever it is worth . . .

[luchabee]

[quote=Kilohana][quote=luchabee]Urbanrealtor: You missed the point.

The point has never been “real jobs” (like a teacher versus an engineer), but jobs that create other jobs for poor people like me . . . For example, people who start businesses.

Again, some of hardcore liberals are big fans of regulating and taxing businesses at every opportunity.

As I mentioned to my brother-in-law, these far left-wing types will never give him a job, never hire people, never pay business taxes, etc., so he might want to think twice about jumping in bed with them politically (unless he can get a nice government job as an accountant). I know it’s a radical thought. [/quote]

Your premise seems to be that liberals don’t start small businesses.

I suppose you should post some data to support, considering that 52% of the voting population now qualifies as “liberal” by your standards.

I haven’t personally been employed by scary liberals, but my spouse and I do own several small businesses and have dozens of employees. Their response to the original thread question would be “yes.”

Realizing the plural of ‘anecdote’ is not ‘data’ – I thought I might contribute anyway.[/quote]

Well, I guess you wouldn’t take it on faith that we have a liberal media and liberal university system (I would)?

There are some things that are pretty self-evident, but I understand the request for data over anecdote.

Again, these are generalizations (and as generalized as the rural Republican comments).

Also, I couldn’t find any business school studies, etc. about political identification and business startups after one minute of searching on google, but I did find this:

Small Business Owners Back McCain, Believe Republican Party Holds the Key to Solving Issues Important to Small Businesses

Which party do you think is better for small business?

Republican
57%

I don’t think the party matters
25%

Democratic
18%

http://www.surepayroll.com/spsite/press/…

For whatever it is worth . . .

[luchabee]

[quote=Kilohana][quote=luchabee]Urbanrealtor: You missed the point.

The point has never been “real jobs” (like a teacher versus an engineer), but jobs that create other jobs for poor people like me . . . For example, people who start businesses.

Again, some of hardcore liberals are big fans of regulating and taxing businesses at every opportunity.

As I mentioned to my brother-in-law, these far left-wing types will never give him a job, never hire people, never pay business taxes, etc., so he might want to think twice about jumping in bed with them politically (unless he can get a nice government job as an accountant). I know it’s a radical thought. [/quote]

Your premise seems to be that liberals don’t start small businesses.

I suppose you should post some data to support, considering that 52% of the voting population now qualifies as “liberal” by your standards.

I haven’t personally been employed by scary liberals, but my spouse and I do own several small businesses and have dozens of employees. Their response to the original thread question would be “yes.”

Realizing the plural of ‘anecdote’ is not ‘data’ – I thought I might contribute anyway.[/quote]

Well, I guess you wouldn’t take it on faith that we have a liberal media and liberal university system (I would)?

There are some things that are pretty self-evident, but I understand the request for data over anecdote.

Again, these are generalizations (and as generalized as the rural Republican comments).

Also, I couldn’t find any business school studies, etc. about political identification and business startups after one minute of searching on google, but I did find this:

Small Business Owners Back McCain, Believe Republican Party Holds the Key to Solving Issues Important to Small Businesses

Which party do you think is better for small business?

Republican
57%

I don’t think the party matters
25%

Democratic
18%

http://www.surepayroll.com/spsite/press/…

For whatever it is worth . . .

[luchabee]

[quote=Kilohana][quote=luchabee]Urbanrealtor: You missed the point.

The point has never been “real jobs” (like a teacher versus an engineer), but jobs that create other jobs for poor people like me . . . For example, people who start businesses.

Again, some of hardcore liberals are big fans of regulating and taxing businesses at every opportunity.

As I mentioned to my brother-in-law, these far left-wing types will never give him a job, never hire people, never pay business taxes, etc., so he might want to think twice about jumping in bed with them politically (unless he can get a nice government job as an accountant). I know it’s a radical thought. [/quote]

Your premise seems to be that liberals don’t start small businesses.

I suppose you should post some data to support, considering that 52% of the voting population now qualifies as “liberal” by your standards.

I haven’t personally been employed by scary liberals, but my spouse and I do own several small businesses and have dozens of employees. Their response to the original thread question would be “yes.”

Realizing the plural of ‘anecdote’ is not ‘data’ – I thought I might contribute anyway.[/quote]

Well, I guess you wouldn’t take it on faith that we have a liberal media and liberal university system (I would)?

There are some things that are pretty self-evident, but I understand the request for data over anecdote.

Again, these are generalizations (and as generalized as the rural Republican comments).

Also, I couldn’t find any business school studies, etc. about political identification and business startups after one minute of searching on google, but I did find this:

Small Business Owners Back McCain, Believe Republican Party Holds the Key to Solving Issues Important to Small Businesses

Which party do you think is better for small business?

Republican
57%

I don’t think the party matters
25%

Democratic
18%

http://www.surepayroll.com/spsite/press/…

For whatever it is worth . . .

[luchabee]

[quote=Kilohana][quote=luchabee]Urbanrealtor: You missed the point.

The point has never been “real jobs” (like a teacher versus an engineer), but jobs that create other jobs for poor people like me . . . For example, people who start businesses.

Again, some of hardcore liberals are big fans of regulating and taxing businesses at every opportunity.

As I mentioned to my brother-in-law, these far left-wing types will never give him a job, never hire people, never pay business taxes, etc., so he might want to think twice about jumping in bed with them politically (unless he can get a nice government job as an accountant). I know it’s a radical thought. [/quote]

Your premise seems to be that liberals don’t start small businesses.

I suppose you should post some data to support, considering that 52% of the voting population now qualifies as “liberal” by your standards.

I haven’t personally been employed by scary liberals, but my spouse and I do own several small businesses and have dozens of employees. Their response to the original thread question would be “yes.”

Realizing the plural of ‘anecdote’ is not ‘data’ – I thought I might contribute anyway.[/quote]

Well, I guess you wouldn’t take it on faith that we have a liberal media and liberal university system (I would)?

There are some things that are pretty self-evident, but I understand the request for data over anecdote.

Again, these are generalizations (and as generalized as the rural Republican comments).

Also, I couldn’t find any business school studies, etc. about political identification and business startups after one minute of searching on google, but I did find this:

Small Business Owners Back McCain, Believe Republican Party Holds the Key to Solving Issues Important to Small Businesses

Which party do you think is better for small business?

Republican
57%

I don’t think the party matters
25%

Democratic
18%

http://www.surepayroll.com/spsite/press/…

For whatever it is worth . . .

[luchabee]

[quote=CardiffBaseball]We need a great communicator to emerge once again…

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/a-time-for-choosing-ronald-reagan-speech-1964/1578281272%5B/quote%5D

Nice video!

Unfortunately, we did have a great communicator emerge in this election . . . in President Obama.

[luchabee]

[quote=CardiffBaseball]We need a great communicator to emerge once again…

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/a-time-for-choosing-ronald-reagan-speech-1964/1578281272%5B/quote%5D

Nice video!

Unfortunately, we did have a great communicator emerge in this election . . . in President Obama.

[luchabee]

[quote=CardiffBaseball]We need a great communicator to emerge once again…

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/a-time-for-choosing-ronald-reagan-speech-1964/1578281272%5B/quote%5D

Nice video!

Unfortunately, we did have a great communicator emerge in this election . . . in President Obama.

[luchabee]

[quote=CardiffBaseball]We need a great communicator to emerge once again…

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/a-time-for-choosing-ronald-reagan-speech-1964/1578281272%5B/quote%5D

Nice video!

Unfortunately, we did have a great communicator emerge in this election . . . in President Obama.

[luchabee]

[quote=CardiffBaseball]We need a great communicator to emerge once again…

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/a-time-for-choosing-ronald-reagan-speech-1964/1578281272%5B/quote%5D

Nice video!

Unfortunately, we did have a great communicator emerge in this election . . . in President Obama.

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