[larrylujack]

LA renter, nice resounding response. Too bad this historical information is not required to be posted when Barron’s publishes these jokester articles.

[larrylujack]

–Maybe it’s just me, but I have been approaching this thread and posting rationales and opinions on why I am not voting for Obama for President. Any discussions regarding Israel and Iran can be good in the presidential election context, but ultimately it is the President who will deal with these issues and not me specifically. I may have some ideas as to how to deal with Israel, Iran, North Korea, and other situations but it does not help make the case for Obama or McCain.–
No. You have gone beyond your stated reasons by quoting Bolton’s article, and marrying yourself to it in your thread, and therefore aligining yourself to Bolton and the neocon ideology, so you must answer for it.
I have no love for Obama, but I despise the neocons due to their abject failure in Iraq, etc.

[larrylujack]

–Maybe it’s just me, but I have been approaching this thread and posting rationales and opinions on why I am not voting for Obama for President. Any discussions regarding Israel and Iran can be good in the presidential election context, but ultimately it is the President who will deal with these issues and not me specifically. I may have some ideas as to how to deal with Israel, Iran, North Korea, and other situations but it does not help make the case for Obama or McCain.–
No. You have gone beyond your stated reasons by quoting Bolton’s article, and marrying yourself to it in your thread, and therefore aligining yourself to Bolton and the neocon ideology, so you must answer for it.
I have no love for Obama, but I despise the neocons due to their abject failure in Iraq, etc.

[larrylujack]

–Maybe it’s just me, but I have been approaching this thread and posting rationales and opinions on why I am not voting for Obama for President. Any discussions regarding Israel and Iran can be good in the presidential election context, but ultimately it is the President who will deal with these issues and not me specifically. I may have some ideas as to how to deal with Israel, Iran, North Korea, and other situations but it does not help make the case for Obama or McCain.–
No. You have gone beyond your stated reasons by quoting Bolton’s article, and marrying yourself to it in your thread, and therefore aligining yourself to Bolton and the neocon ideology, so you must answer for it.
I have no love for Obama, but I despise the neocons due to their abject failure in Iraq, etc.

[larrylujack]

–Maybe it’s just me, but I have been approaching this thread and posting rationales and opinions on why I am not voting for Obama for President. Any discussions regarding Israel and Iran can be good in the presidential election context, but ultimately it is the President who will deal with these issues and not me specifically. I may have some ideas as to how to deal with Israel, Iran, North Korea, and other situations but it does not help make the case for Obama or McCain.–
No. You have gone beyond your stated reasons by quoting Bolton’s article, and marrying yourself to it in your thread, and therefore aligining yourself to Bolton and the neocon ideology, so you must answer for it.
I have no love for Obama, but I despise the neocons due to their abject failure in Iraq, etc.

[larrylujack]

–Maybe it’s just me, but I have been approaching this thread and posting rationales and opinions on why I am not voting for Obama for President. Any discussions regarding Israel and Iran can be good in the presidential election context, but ultimately it is the President who will deal with these issues and not me specifically. I may have some ideas as to how to deal with Israel, Iran, North Korea, and other situations but it does not help make the case for Obama or McCain.–
No. You have gone beyond your stated reasons by quoting Bolton’s article, and marrying yourself to it in your thread, and therefore aligining yourself to Bolton and the neocon ideology, so you must answer for it.
I have no love for Obama, but I despise the neocons due to their abject failure in Iraq, etc.

[larrylujack]

I take issue of most of your comments. For example, plainly you are not privy to the negotiations with N Korea. Unless you have specific facts, which you do not, and fail to present any in your response, let it go, pal., and the implication that you know details of the negotiation process seems a stretch, what BE your cred, fred?

the fact that you do not address any the NK points on the merits suggest you have nothing but invective. Besides, Clinton was in negotiations before Bush et al. got in power to dismantle NK nuclear capability. It could have been wrapped up in the first Bush administration but was not, perhaps you need a history lesson yourself, my friend.

In terms of your bizarre and irrelevant “lawyer” analogy, eh? The facts are this: Israel routinely negotiates with Hamas and Hezbollah, nothing you say nor do you provide evidence of otherwise, it is a plain fact. they have and continue to do so to this day, so why argue the point?. Even the neocons acknowledge this point, so why argue? Once again, Bizzare-oland.

there are additional facts you conveniently ignore. For example, Bolton and the neocons blew Iraq, those are FACTS dude. there are 4 thousand dead americans and probably at least 100,000 dead Iraqis, and more to come,and yet you believe Bolton and the neocons now have the answer in past of their past failures, and rely on them to criticize Obama when they have been so incredibly wrong??? As even the Jews would say, what Chutzpah!!!

When, will you be so bold to admit that you and the neocons were wrong? If not, you are ok with Iraq and the continued deaths of Americans soldiers? After all, If you believe Bolton, then you also believe continued occupation of Iraq, and the conituned deaths of our soldiers and the wastefull spending of billions of dollars on a war that was not necessary.

You are so married to your beliefs you have given up thinking.

I hate to say it but, usually I am more charitable, but you may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, and I hope you enjoy paying 5 bucks a gallon for gas because that is what instability brings to the middle east cause of the occupation of Iraq and the Iran saber rattling, get it amigo? Bottom line is the tension in the middle east is contributing to the increase in fuel prices, inflation, and speculation, but I guess you are OK with that strategy, no? It’s all part of the grand neocon plan right?
It happened right after Vietnam and it is happening again, as I predicted months ago (see previous LL threads). You, my friend, should be ashamed of the damage that you have caused.
Time to buy a vowel, pal.
LL

[larrylujack]

I take issue of most of your comments. For example, plainly you are not privy to the negotiations with N Korea. Unless you have specific facts, which you do not, and fail to present any in your response, let it go, pal., and the implication that you know details of the negotiation process seems a stretch, what BE your cred, fred?

the fact that you do not address any the NK points on the merits suggest you have nothing but invective. Besides, Clinton was in negotiations before Bush et al. got in power to dismantle NK nuclear capability. It could have been wrapped up in the first Bush administration but was not, perhaps you need a history lesson yourself, my friend.

In terms of your bizarre and irrelevant “lawyer” analogy, eh? The facts are this: Israel routinely negotiates with Hamas and Hezbollah, nothing you say nor do you provide evidence of otherwise, it is a plain fact. they have and continue to do so to this day, so why argue the point?. Even the neocons acknowledge this point, so why argue? Once again, Bizzare-oland.

there are additional facts you conveniently ignore. For example, Bolton and the neocons blew Iraq, those are FACTS dude. there are 4 thousand dead americans and probably at least 100,000 dead Iraqis, and more to come,and yet you believe Bolton and the neocons now have the answer in past of their past failures, and rely on them to criticize Obama when they have been so incredibly wrong??? As even the Jews would say, what Chutzpah!!!

When, will you be so bold to admit that you and the neocons were wrong? If not, you are ok with Iraq and the continued deaths of Americans soldiers? After all, If you believe Bolton, then you also believe continued occupation of Iraq, and the conituned deaths of our soldiers and the wastefull spending of billions of dollars on a war that was not necessary.

You are so married to your beliefs you have given up thinking.

I hate to say it but, usually I am more charitable, but you may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, and I hope you enjoy paying 5 bucks a gallon for gas because that is what instability brings to the middle east cause of the occupation of Iraq and the Iran saber rattling, get it amigo? Bottom line is the tension in the middle east is contributing to the increase in fuel prices, inflation, and speculation, but I guess you are OK with that strategy, no? It’s all part of the grand neocon plan right?
It happened right after Vietnam and it is happening again, as I predicted months ago (see previous LL threads). You, my friend, should be ashamed of the damage that you have caused.
Time to buy a vowel, pal.
LL

[larrylujack]

I take issue of most of your comments. For example, plainly you are not privy to the negotiations with N Korea. Unless you have specific facts, which you do not, and fail to present any in your response, let it go, pal., and the implication that you know details of the negotiation process seems a stretch, what BE your cred, fred?

the fact that you do not address any the NK points on the merits suggest you have nothing but invective. Besides, Clinton was in negotiations before Bush et al. got in power to dismantle NK nuclear capability. It could have been wrapped up in the first Bush administration but was not, perhaps you need a history lesson yourself, my friend.

In terms of your bizarre and irrelevant “lawyer” analogy, eh? The facts are this: Israel routinely negotiates with Hamas and Hezbollah, nothing you say nor do you provide evidence of otherwise, it is a plain fact. they have and continue to do so to this day, so why argue the point?. Even the neocons acknowledge this point, so why argue? Once again, Bizzare-oland.

there are additional facts you conveniently ignore. For example, Bolton and the neocons blew Iraq, those are FACTS dude. there are 4 thousand dead americans and probably at least 100,000 dead Iraqis, and more to come,and yet you believe Bolton and the neocons now have the answer in past of their past failures, and rely on them to criticize Obama when they have been so incredibly wrong??? As even the Jews would say, what Chutzpah!!!

When, will you be so bold to admit that you and the neocons were wrong? If not, you are ok with Iraq and the continued deaths of Americans soldiers? After all, If you believe Bolton, then you also believe continued occupation of Iraq, and the conituned deaths of our soldiers and the wastefull spending of billions of dollars on a war that was not necessary.

You are so married to your beliefs you have given up thinking.

I hate to say it but, usually I am more charitable, but you may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, and I hope you enjoy paying 5 bucks a gallon for gas because that is what instability brings to the middle east cause of the occupation of Iraq and the Iran saber rattling, get it amigo? Bottom line is the tension in the middle east is contributing to the increase in fuel prices, inflation, and speculation, but I guess you are OK with that strategy, no? It’s all part of the grand neocon plan right?
It happened right after Vietnam and it is happening again, as I predicted months ago (see previous LL threads). You, my friend, should be ashamed of the damage that you have caused.
Time to buy a vowel, pal.
LL

[larrylujack]

I take issue of most of your comments. For example, plainly you are not privy to the negotiations with N Korea. Unless you have specific facts, which you do not, and fail to present any in your response, let it go, pal., and the implication that you know details of the negotiation process seems a stretch, what BE your cred, fred?

the fact that you do not address any the NK points on the merits suggest you have nothing but invective. Besides, Clinton was in negotiations before Bush et al. got in power to dismantle NK nuclear capability. It could have been wrapped up in the first Bush administration but was not, perhaps you need a history lesson yourself, my friend.

In terms of your bizarre and irrelevant “lawyer” analogy, eh? The facts are this: Israel routinely negotiates with Hamas and Hezbollah, nothing you say nor do you provide evidence of otherwise, it is a plain fact. they have and continue to do so to this day, so why argue the point?. Even the neocons acknowledge this point, so why argue? Once again, Bizzare-oland.

there are additional facts you conveniently ignore. For example, Bolton and the neocons blew Iraq, those are FACTS dude. there are 4 thousand dead americans and probably at least 100,000 dead Iraqis, and more to come,and yet you believe Bolton and the neocons now have the answer in past of their past failures, and rely on them to criticize Obama when they have been so incredibly wrong??? As even the Jews would say, what Chutzpah!!!

When, will you be so bold to admit that you and the neocons were wrong? If not, you are ok with Iraq and the continued deaths of Americans soldiers? After all, If you believe Bolton, then you also believe continued occupation of Iraq, and the conituned deaths of our soldiers and the wastefull spending of billions of dollars on a war that was not necessary.

You are so married to your beliefs you have given up thinking.

I hate to say it but, usually I am more charitable, but you may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, and I hope you enjoy paying 5 bucks a gallon for gas because that is what instability brings to the middle east cause of the occupation of Iraq and the Iran saber rattling, get it amigo? Bottom line is the tension in the middle east is contributing to the increase in fuel prices, inflation, and speculation, but I guess you are OK with that strategy, no? It’s all part of the grand neocon plan right?
It happened right after Vietnam and it is happening again, as I predicted months ago (see previous LL threads). You, my friend, should be ashamed of the damage that you have caused.
Time to buy a vowel, pal.
LL

[larrylujack]

I take issue of most of your comments. For example, plainly you are not privy to the negotiations with N Korea. Unless you have specific facts, which you do not, and fail to present any in your response, let it go, pal., and the implication that you know details of the negotiation process seems a stretch, what BE your cred, fred?

the fact that you do not address any the NK points on the merits suggest you have nothing but invective. Besides, Clinton was in negotiations before Bush et al. got in power to dismantle NK nuclear capability. It could have been wrapped up in the first Bush administration but was not, perhaps you need a history lesson yourself, my friend.

In terms of your bizarre and irrelevant “lawyer” analogy, eh? The facts are this: Israel routinely negotiates with Hamas and Hezbollah, nothing you say nor do you provide evidence of otherwise, it is a plain fact. they have and continue to do so to this day, so why argue the point?. Even the neocons acknowledge this point, so why argue? Once again, Bizzare-oland.

there are additional facts you conveniently ignore. For example, Bolton and the neocons blew Iraq, those are FACTS dude. there are 4 thousand dead americans and probably at least 100,000 dead Iraqis, and more to come,and yet you believe Bolton and the neocons now have the answer in past of their past failures, and rely on them to criticize Obama when they have been so incredibly wrong??? As even the Jews would say, what Chutzpah!!!

When, will you be so bold to admit that you and the neocons were wrong? If not, you are ok with Iraq and the continued deaths of Americans soldiers? After all, If you believe Bolton, then you also believe continued occupation of Iraq, and the conituned deaths of our soldiers and the wastefull spending of billions of dollars on a war that was not necessary.

You are so married to your beliefs you have given up thinking.

I hate to say it but, usually I am more charitable, but you may not be the sharpest tool in the shed, and I hope you enjoy paying 5 bucks a gallon for gas because that is what instability brings to the middle east cause of the occupation of Iraq and the Iran saber rattling, get it amigo? Bottom line is the tension in the middle east is contributing to the increase in fuel prices, inflation, and speculation, but I guess you are OK with that strategy, no? It’s all part of the grand neocon plan right?
It happened right after Vietnam and it is happening again, as I predicted months ago (see previous LL threads). You, my friend, should be ashamed of the damage that you have caused.
Time to buy a vowel, pal.
LL

[larrylujack]

–I think this article absolutely lays out why I will not be voting for Obama for president. Whether the information in this article will be enough for you, gandalf, is up to you.–
straight from the discredited neocon Bolton. Case in point: the success in N Korea in that negotiations resulted in them dismantling their nuclear power capability. Does neocon Bolton say that the US should not have negotiated with N Korea? What credible alternative does neocon Bolton propose viz N Korea? Has neocon saber rattling worked in Iran? Actually according to the neocons themselves, Iran has responded by becoming more hardline, so they propose more of the same, which makes little sense. so perhaps negotiations are in order. The macho posturing by Bolton and his neocon ilk, none of whom have ever served a day in the military, are exactly what resulted in the Iraq fiasco, which a large majority of Americans conclude was a mistake. So, we need more Iraqs I suppose instead of negotiating, sounds like a loser to me.
Also, Israel negotiates routinely with their enemies Hamas and Hezbollah to obtain prisoner exchanges, for example, so frankly, negotiations can and do work, and are a far better option than the neocon macho posturing of no negotiation which has shown such incredible success in Iraq and Iran (note sarcasm).

[larrylujack]

–I think this article absolutely lays out why I will not be voting for Obama for president. Whether the information in this article will be enough for you, gandalf, is up to you.–
straight from the discredited neocon Bolton. Case in point: the success in N Korea in that negotiations resulted in them dismantling their nuclear power capability. Does neocon Bolton say that the US should not have negotiated with N Korea? What credible alternative does neocon Bolton propose viz N Korea? Has neocon saber rattling worked in Iran? Actually according to the neocons themselves, Iran has responded by becoming more hardline, so they propose more of the same, which makes little sense. so perhaps negotiations are in order. The macho posturing by Bolton and his neocon ilk, none of whom have ever served a day in the military, are exactly what resulted in the Iraq fiasco, which a large majority of Americans conclude was a mistake. So, we need more Iraqs I suppose instead of negotiating, sounds like a loser to me.
Also, Israel negotiates routinely with their enemies Hamas and Hezbollah to obtain prisoner exchanges, for example, so frankly, negotiations can and do work, and are a far better option than the neocon macho posturing of no negotiation which has shown such incredible success in Iraq and Iran (note sarcasm).

[larrylujack]

–I think this article absolutely lays out why I will not be voting for Obama for president. Whether the information in this article will be enough for you, gandalf, is up to you.–
straight from the discredited neocon Bolton. Case in point: the success in N Korea in that negotiations resulted in them dismantling their nuclear power capability. Does neocon Bolton say that the US should not have negotiated with N Korea? What credible alternative does neocon Bolton propose viz N Korea? Has neocon saber rattling worked in Iran? Actually according to the neocons themselves, Iran has responded by becoming more hardline, so they propose more of the same, which makes little sense. so perhaps negotiations are in order. The macho posturing by Bolton and his neocon ilk, none of whom have ever served a day in the military, are exactly what resulted in the Iraq fiasco, which a large majority of Americans conclude was a mistake. So, we need more Iraqs I suppose instead of negotiating, sounds like a loser to me.
Also, Israel negotiates routinely with their enemies Hamas and Hezbollah to obtain prisoner exchanges, for example, so frankly, negotiations can and do work, and are a far better option than the neocon macho posturing of no negotiation which has shown such incredible success in Iraq and Iran (note sarcasm).

[larrylujack]

–I think this article absolutely lays out why I will not be voting for Obama for president. Whether the information in this article will be enough for you, gandalf, is up to you.–
straight from the discredited neocon Bolton. Case in point: the success in N Korea in that negotiations resulted in them dismantling their nuclear power capability. Does neocon Bolton say that the US should not have negotiated with N Korea? What credible alternative does neocon Bolton propose viz N Korea? Has neocon saber rattling worked in Iran? Actually according to the neocons themselves, Iran has responded by becoming more hardline, so they propose more of the same, which makes little sense. so perhaps negotiations are in order. The macho posturing by Bolton and his neocon ilk, none of whom have ever served a day in the military, are exactly what resulted in the Iraq fiasco, which a large majority of Americans conclude was a mistake. So, we need more Iraqs I suppose instead of negotiating, sounds like a loser to me.
Also, Israel negotiates routinely with their enemies Hamas and Hezbollah to obtain prisoner exchanges, for example, so frankly, negotiations can and do work, and are a far better option than the neocon macho posturing of no negotiation which has shown such incredible success in Iraq and Iran (note sarcasm).

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