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[quote=fat_lazy_union_worker][quote=eclipxe]I work for a smaller development company and we’re actively trying to hire.

I think it is important to separate general “IT” from “Software Development”. A non technology company views IT developers as a cost center, a software company views developers as a profit center and treats them as such.

Good developers (that are in the field because they view it as an art and a creative endeavor) will not have a problem finding work, even in this market. Developers that are in it to collect a pay check will struggle when faced with outsourced labor that will do it with the same lack of passion but cheaper.

There is a very interesting thread on Joel on Software where developers are discussing the current job market and desire to leave the industry. Very relevant to this thread: http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?joel.3.718003.14%5B/quote%5D

Work for a company or start one that’s business is software products or services. Not some IT position at say some insurance company doing some back office crap. World of difference.

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I may be the lucky one but took an “IT” job with a local insurance company and they decided to spend in a down market by phasing out all legacy systems to a centralized ERP platform, which has been done once in the US for a certain line of business. Luckily I was an ex-sap consultant in the right place at the right time.

Point is to not assume all industries are bad IT shops, they could have something on the horizon.

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[quote=fat_lazy_union_worker][quote=eclipxe]I work for a smaller development company and we’re actively trying to hire.

I think it is important to separate general “IT” from “Software Development”. A non technology company views IT developers as a cost center, a software company views developers as a profit center and treats them as such.

Good developers (that are in the field because they view it as an art and a creative endeavor) will not have a problem finding work, even in this market. Developers that are in it to collect a pay check will struggle when faced with outsourced labor that will do it with the same lack of passion but cheaper.

There is a very interesting thread on Joel on Software where developers are discussing the current job market and desire to leave the industry. Very relevant to this thread: http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?joel.3.718003.14%5B/quote%5D

Work for a company or start one that’s business is software products or services. Not some IT position at say some insurance company doing some back office crap. World of difference.

[/quote]

I may be the lucky one but took an “IT” job with a local insurance company and they decided to spend in a down market by phasing out all legacy systems to a centralized ERP platform, which has been done once in the US for a certain line of business. Luckily I was an ex-sap consultant in the right place at the right time.

Point is to not assume all industries are bad IT shops, they could have something on the horizon.

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[quote=fat_lazy_union_worker][quote=eclipxe]I work for a smaller development company and we’re actively trying to hire.

I think it is important to separate general “IT” from “Software Development”. A non technology company views IT developers as a cost center, a software company views developers as a profit center and treats them as such.

Good developers (that are in the field because they view it as an art and a creative endeavor) will not have a problem finding work, even in this market. Developers that are in it to collect a pay check will struggle when faced with outsourced labor that will do it with the same lack of passion but cheaper.

There is a very interesting thread on Joel on Software where developers are discussing the current job market and desire to leave the industry. Very relevant to this thread: http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?joel.3.718003.14%5B/quote%5D

Work for a company or start one that’s business is software products or services. Not some IT position at say some insurance company doing some back office crap. World of difference.

[/quote]

I may be the lucky one but took an “IT” job with a local insurance company and they decided to spend in a down market by phasing out all legacy systems to a centralized ERP platform, which has been done once in the US for a certain line of business. Luckily I was an ex-sap consultant in the right place at the right time.

Point is to not assume all industries are bad IT shops, they could have something on the horizon.

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[quote=fat_lazy_union_worker][quote=eclipxe]I work for a smaller development company and we’re actively trying to hire.

I think it is important to separate general “IT” from “Software Development”. A non technology company views IT developers as a cost center, a software company views developers as a profit center and treats them as such.

Good developers (that are in the field because they view it as an art and a creative endeavor) will not have a problem finding work, even in this market. Developers that are in it to collect a pay check will struggle when faced with outsourced labor that will do it with the same lack of passion but cheaper.

There is a very interesting thread on Joel on Software where developers are discussing the current job market and desire to leave the industry. Very relevant to this thread: http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?joel.3.718003.14%5B/quote%5D

Work for a company or start one that’s business is software products or services. Not some IT position at say some insurance company doing some back office crap. World of difference.

[/quote]

I may be the lucky one but took an “IT” job with a local insurance company and they decided to spend in a down market by phasing out all legacy systems to a centralized ERP platform, which has been done once in the US for a certain line of business. Luckily I was an ex-sap consultant in the right place at the right time.

Point is to not assume all industries are bad IT shops, they could have something on the horizon.

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[quote=fat_lazy_union_worker][quote=eclipxe]I work for a smaller development company and we’re actively trying to hire.

I think it is important to separate general “IT” from “Software Development”. A non technology company views IT developers as a cost center, a software company views developers as a profit center and treats them as such.

Good developers (that are in the field because they view it as an art and a creative endeavor) will not have a problem finding work, even in this market. Developers that are in it to collect a pay check will struggle when faced with outsourced labor that will do it with the same lack of passion but cheaper.

There is a very interesting thread on Joel on Software where developers are discussing the current job market and desire to leave the industry. Very relevant to this thread: http://discuss.joelonsoftware.com/default.asp?joel.3.718003.14%5B/quote%5D

Work for a company or start one that’s business is software products or services. Not some IT position at say some insurance company doing some back office crap. World of difference.

[/quote]

I may be the lucky one but took an “IT” job with a local insurance company and they decided to spend in a down market by phasing out all legacy systems to a centralized ERP platform, which has been done once in the US for a certain line of business. Luckily I was an ex-sap consultant in the right place at the right time.

Point is to not assume all industries are bad IT shops, they could have something on the horizon.

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Change management or Training for ORACLE/SAP/other large ERP implementations. Lots of work there..

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Change management or Training for ORACLE/SAP/other large ERP implementations. Lots of work there..

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Change management or Training for ORACLE/SAP/other large ERP implementations. Lots of work there..

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Change management or Training for ORACLE/SAP/other large ERP implementations. Lots of work there..

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Change management or Training for ORACLE/SAP/other large ERP implementations. Lots of work there..

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