[KSMountain]

[quote=briansd1]How about thinking of others for a minute? So it’ll cost of little bit more to buy OTC meds. Is that a big enough deal to deny millions of Americans health care coverage?[/quote]

No Brian. It is not about a little bit more for OTC meds. It is about $1T more, per decade, when we’re $12T in the hole. Someone (maybe you) called Medicare and Soc. Security “bedrock” programs. Oh yeah? Bedrock programs that have no recognition of demographics or reality. Neither one of those programs are on fiscally sound footing. I did read some of the raw CBO report, and first of all they have a big disclaimer about any predictions more than a decade out. My prediction is that this will be FAR more expensive than predicted. Murphy has a way of being right.

You said it’s “our” money Brian. Yeah? Are you part of the 5 percent that’s been enlisted to pay for this?

When you say “deny millions of americans healthcare”… shouldn’t the system be set up to reward hard work? Should a Jack-in-the-box fryer refiller with 2 weeks experience *REALLY* get the same healthcare as say someone who worked 30 years, proved themselves as a leader, and now has 1000 people reporting to them? Really? Is that really what you believe? Shouldn’t there be an incentive to get out of Jack-in-the-box before you start a family?

With this, we’re heading down the path of Greece, with hairdressers demanding retirement at age 50 (look it up). We are heading FAR FAR away from the concept of pioneer spirit and yankee ingenuity.

It’s more about: what am I “entitled” to have provided to me by the abstract “government”. Problem is, that abstract “government” is actually your neighbors or phony printed money. There was a time when a lot of folks would have sufficient pride to decline that kind of charity and pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

Partypup and Arraya don’t scare me, but I have to say *this* kind of mentality does scare me about our future.

[KSMountain]

[quote=briansd1]How about thinking of others for a minute? So it’ll cost of little bit more to buy OTC meds. Is that a big enough deal to deny millions of Americans health care coverage?[/quote]

No Brian. It is not about a little bit more for OTC meds. It is about $1T more, per decade, when we’re $12T in the hole. Someone (maybe you) called Medicare and Soc. Security “bedrock” programs. Oh yeah? Bedrock programs that have no recognition of demographics or reality. Neither one of those programs are on fiscally sound footing. I did read some of the raw CBO report, and first of all they have a big disclaimer about any predictions more than a decade out. My prediction is that this will be FAR more expensive than predicted. Murphy has a way of being right.

You said it’s “our” money Brian. Yeah? Are you part of the 5 percent that’s been enlisted to pay for this?

When you say “deny millions of americans healthcare”… shouldn’t the system be set up to reward hard work? Should a Jack-in-the-box fryer refiller with 2 weeks experience *REALLY* get the same healthcare as say someone who worked 30 years, proved themselves as a leader, and now has 1000 people reporting to them? Really? Is that really what you believe? Shouldn’t there be an incentive to get out of Jack-in-the-box before you start a family?

With this, we’re heading down the path of Greece, with hairdressers demanding retirement at age 50 (look it up). We are heading FAR FAR away from the concept of pioneer spirit and yankee ingenuity.

It’s more about: what am I “entitled” to have provided to me by the abstract “government”. Problem is, that abstract “government” is actually your neighbors or phony printed money. There was a time when a lot of folks would have sufficient pride to decline that kind of charity and pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

Partypup and Arraya don’t scare me, but I have to say *this* kind of mentality does scare me about our future.

[KSMountain]

Loved this story. Keep ’em coming as far as I’m concerned.

My property recently underwent an inspection by two VERY self-empowered raccoons. If they decide to take time off from their evidently busy schedule and come back, I’ll post a photo. These guys were HUGE.

[KSMountain]

Loved this story. Keep ’em coming as far as I’m concerned.

My property recently underwent an inspection by two VERY self-empowered raccoons. If they decide to take time off from their evidently busy schedule and come back, I’ll post a photo. These guys were HUGE.

[KSMountain]

Loved this story. Keep ’em coming as far as I’m concerned.

My property recently underwent an inspection by two VERY self-empowered raccoons. If they decide to take time off from their evidently busy schedule and come back, I’ll post a photo. These guys were HUGE.

[KSMountain]

Loved this story. Keep ’em coming as far as I’m concerned.

My property recently underwent an inspection by two VERY self-empowered raccoons. If they decide to take time off from their evidently busy schedule and come back, I’ll post a photo. These guys were HUGE.

[KSMountain]

Loved this story. Keep ’em coming as far as I’m concerned.

My property recently underwent an inspection by two VERY self-empowered raccoons. If they decide to take time off from their evidently busy schedule and come back, I’ll post a photo. These guys were HUGE.

[KSMountain]

[quote=patb][quote=NeetaT]In my opinion, healthcare is not a right. Healthcare is a service that is priced via supply and demand just like other goods and services. [/quote]

So what’s the Equilibrium price for an Ambulance ride?

When you are having a heart attack, what is the price you will pay for a ride?[/quote]

I thought this was a really interesting question patb. I’m a strong supporter of the free market, but here you have an example that seems to pose a difficulty.

Is it that there needs to be a mechanism to prevent gouging?

Got a good answer for me?

Hopefully the answer isn’t “anything that anyone might want really badly should be provided by the government”.

[KSMountain]

[quote=patb][quote=NeetaT]In my opinion, healthcare is not a right. Healthcare is a service that is priced via supply and demand just like other goods and services. [/quote]

So what’s the Equilibrium price for an Ambulance ride?

When you are having a heart attack, what is the price you will pay for a ride?[/quote]

I thought this was a really interesting question patb. I’m a strong supporter of the free market, but here you have an example that seems to pose a difficulty.

Is it that there needs to be a mechanism to prevent gouging?

Got a good answer for me?

Hopefully the answer isn’t “anything that anyone might want really badly should be provided by the government”.

[KSMountain]

[quote=patb][quote=NeetaT]In my opinion, healthcare is not a right. Healthcare is a service that is priced via supply and demand just like other goods and services. [/quote]

So what’s the Equilibrium price for an Ambulance ride?

When you are having a heart attack, what is the price you will pay for a ride?[/quote]

I thought this was a really interesting question patb. I’m a strong supporter of the free market, but here you have an example that seems to pose a difficulty.

Is it that there needs to be a mechanism to prevent gouging?

Got a good answer for me?

Hopefully the answer isn’t “anything that anyone might want really badly should be provided by the government”.

[KSMountain]

[quote=patb][quote=NeetaT]In my opinion, healthcare is not a right. Healthcare is a service that is priced via supply and demand just like other goods and services. [/quote]

So what’s the Equilibrium price for an Ambulance ride?

When you are having a heart attack, what is the price you will pay for a ride?[/quote]

I thought this was a really interesting question patb. I’m a strong supporter of the free market, but here you have an example that seems to pose a difficulty.

Is it that there needs to be a mechanism to prevent gouging?

Got a good answer for me?

Hopefully the answer isn’t “anything that anyone might want really badly should be provided by the government”.

[KSMountain]

[quote=patb][quote=NeetaT]In my opinion, healthcare is not a right. Healthcare is a service that is priced via supply and demand just like other goods and services. [/quote]

So what’s the Equilibrium price for an Ambulance ride?

When you are having a heart attack, what is the price you will pay for a ride?[/quote]

I thought this was a really interesting question patb. I’m a strong supporter of the free market, but here you have an example that seems to pose a difficulty.

Is it that there needs to be a mechanism to prevent gouging?

Got a good answer for me?

Hopefully the answer isn’t “anything that anyone might want really badly should be provided by the government”.

[KSMountain]

So what kind of healthcare costs do we all “owe” this woman?

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/03/new_jersey_woman_aiming_to_bec.html?f=most-commented-24h-5

I believe it was poorgradstudent who said providing healthcare was the morally correct thing to do.

Morally speaking, what kind of services should we provide this woman? 30 specialists to help her give birth?

Is it moral to take money from other taxpaying families (who probably need it) to pay for this woman’s “dream”?

[KSMountain]

So what kind of healthcare costs do we all “owe” this woman?

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/03/new_jersey_woman_aiming_to_bec.html?f=most-commented-24h-5

I believe it was poorgradstudent who said providing healthcare was the morally correct thing to do.

Morally speaking, what kind of services should we provide this woman? 30 specialists to help her give birth?

Is it moral to take money from other taxpaying families (who probably need it) to pay for this woman’s “dream”?

[KSMountain]

So what kind of healthcare costs do we all “owe” this woman?

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2010/03/new_jersey_woman_aiming_to_bec.html?f=most-commented-24h-5

I believe it was poorgradstudent who said providing healthcare was the morally correct thing to do.

Morally speaking, what kind of services should we provide this woman? 30 specialists to help her give birth?

Is it moral to take money from other taxpaying families (who probably need it) to pay for this woman’s “dream”?

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