[KSMountain]

[quote=afx114]Another great visualization: http://microsievert.net/[/quote]
That 1000 uSv/hr doesn’t look very appealing…

I admit this whole thing is flip flopping back and forth like some kind of WWF match.

I have seen headlines that are really misleading. For example, I saw one today “Plutonium found outside plant”. But then you read the article and you see that in 3 of 5 testing areas, the plutonium was evidently only typical background Pu which is observable anywhere in the world. The other two places did appear to be Pu from the plant (which is scary) but as of yet the amounts were not reported as dangerous.

The 1000 uSv/hr is apparently a level that will really make it hard to get humans in there to fix things. Sounds like they’ll need robots to me, which will make everything take longer.

I definitely am still following this thing everyday. I’d say (like the Japanese government and TEPCO say) that the situation is very serious.

I would also say though that I continue to see misleading or erroneous reporting. I think it is just too tempting for many reporters because they can exploit others fear of the unknown and feel they can get away with it…

[KSMountain]

[quote=afx114]Another great visualization: http://microsievert.net/[/quote]
That 1000 uSv/hr doesn’t look very appealing…

I admit this whole thing is flip flopping back and forth like some kind of WWF match.

I have seen headlines that are really misleading. For example, I saw one today “Plutonium found outside plant”. But then you read the article and you see that in 3 of 5 testing areas, the plutonium was evidently only typical background Pu which is observable anywhere in the world. The other two places did appear to be Pu from the plant (which is scary) but as of yet the amounts were not reported as dangerous.

The 1000 uSv/hr is apparently a level that will really make it hard to get humans in there to fix things. Sounds like they’ll need robots to me, which will make everything take longer.

I definitely am still following this thing everyday. I’d say (like the Japanese government and TEPCO say) that the situation is very serious.

I would also say though that I continue to see misleading or erroneous reporting. I think it is just too tempting for many reporters because they can exploit others fear of the unknown and feel they can get away with it…

[KSMountain]

I had one of my best lifelong friends die of this last year. It is still very sad for me.

We tried intervention over a decade before. He was forced to go to AA for awhile under threat of losing his job. None of it worked. He was too deeply into the pattern.

Even among his best friends who know everything we debate the cause – genetic, environmental, personality, some event…

Brian, I would just say enjoy your time with your friend. Go do things. Don’t try to fix it. I don’t think you can.

My friend was an asset to the planet – a popular teacher. He did not make it to 50.

[KSMountain]

I had one of my best lifelong friends die of this last year. It is still very sad for me.

We tried intervention over a decade before. He was forced to go to AA for awhile under threat of losing his job. None of it worked. He was too deeply into the pattern.

Even among his best friends who know everything we debate the cause – genetic, environmental, personality, some event…

Brian, I would just say enjoy your time with your friend. Go do things. Don’t try to fix it. I don’t think you can.

My friend was an asset to the planet – a popular teacher. He did not make it to 50.

[KSMountain]

I had one of my best lifelong friends die of this last year. It is still very sad for me.

We tried intervention over a decade before. He was forced to go to AA for awhile under threat of losing his job. None of it worked. He was too deeply into the pattern.

Even among his best friends who know everything we debate the cause – genetic, environmental, personality, some event…

Brian, I would just say enjoy your time with your friend. Go do things. Don’t try to fix it. I don’t think you can.

My friend was an asset to the planet – a popular teacher. He did not make it to 50.

[KSMountain]

I had one of my best lifelong friends die of this last year. It is still very sad for me.

We tried intervention over a decade before. He was forced to go to AA for awhile under threat of losing his job. None of it worked. He was too deeply into the pattern.

Even among his best friends who know everything we debate the cause – genetic, environmental, personality, some event…

Brian, I would just say enjoy your time with your friend. Go do things. Don’t try to fix it. I don’t think you can.

My friend was an asset to the planet – a popular teacher. He did not make it to 50.

[KSMountain]

I had one of my best lifelong friends die of this last year. It is still very sad for me.

We tried intervention over a decade before. He was forced to go to AA for awhile under threat of losing his job. None of it worked. He was too deeply into the pattern.

Even among his best friends who know everything we debate the cause – genetic, environmental, personality, some event…

Brian, I would just say enjoy your time with your friend. Go do things. Don’t try to fix it. I don’t think you can.

My friend was an asset to the planet – a popular teacher. He did not make it to 50.

[KSMountain]

[quote=ILoveRegulation]
…
My sense is that we are looking at a situation that is going to be x-times Chernobyl. Is it going to be 2x, 5x, 10x, 20x? Who knows. Scary stuff.[/quote]
This article seems to differ. We shall see:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12789749

[KSMountain]

[quote=ILoveRegulation]
…
My sense is that we are looking at a situation that is going to be x-times Chernobyl. Is it going to be 2x, 5x, 10x, 20x? Who knows. Scary stuff.[/quote]
This article seems to differ. We shall see:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12789749

[KSMountain]

[quote=ILoveRegulation]
…
My sense is that we are looking at a situation that is going to be x-times Chernobyl. Is it going to be 2x, 5x, 10x, 20x? Who knows. Scary stuff.[/quote]
This article seems to differ. We shall see:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12789749

[KSMountain]

[quote=ILoveRegulation]
…
My sense is that we are looking at a situation that is going to be x-times Chernobyl. Is it going to be 2x, 5x, 10x, 20x? Who knows. Scary stuff.[/quote]
This article seems to differ. We shall see:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12789749

[KSMountain]

[quote=ILoveRegulation]
…
My sense is that we are looking at a situation that is going to be x-times Chernobyl. Is it going to be 2x, 5x, 10x, 20x? Who knows. Scary stuff.[/quote]
This article seems to differ. We shall see:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-12789749

[KSMountain]

@ILoveRegulation –
Are you able to discuss issues and ideas dispassionately? Can you debate without going ad hominem almost immediately?

For the record (replying to an earlier allegation), I love facts. I like to go to actual source references rather than rely on *anyone* else’s (of any political persuasion) regurgitated hyperbolic pablum.

Now, can we get back to the OT?

I think it is interesting that currently evidently the Japanese are concerned most about reactor 3 while the Americans are most concerned about the spent fuel pool of reactor 4. There is going to be power there soon. Maybe they will be able to cool 4’s pool once they have power. But If that pool has a leak then it will be interesting times.

Still there is a lot of ingenuity in the world cadre of engineers and I have faith the situation will ultimately be resolved. That may not be as thrilling or fun to wax cataclysmic about, but folks aren’t going to just give up. Watch and see.

[KSMountain]

@ILoveRegulation –
Are you able to discuss issues and ideas dispassionately? Can you debate without going ad hominem almost immediately?

For the record (replying to an earlier allegation), I love facts. I like to go to actual source references rather than rely on *anyone* else’s (of any political persuasion) regurgitated hyperbolic pablum.

Now, can we get back to the OT?

I think it is interesting that currently evidently the Japanese are concerned most about reactor 3 while the Americans are most concerned about the spent fuel pool of reactor 4. There is going to be power there soon. Maybe they will be able to cool 4’s pool once they have power. But If that pool has a leak then it will be interesting times.

Still there is a lot of ingenuity in the world cadre of engineers and I have faith the situation will ultimately be resolved. That may not be as thrilling or fun to wax cataclysmic about, but folks aren’t going to just give up. Watch and see.

[KSMountain]

@ILoveRegulation –
Are you able to discuss issues and ideas dispassionately? Can you debate without going ad hominem almost immediately?

For the record (replying to an earlier allegation), I love facts. I like to go to actual source references rather than rely on *anyone* else’s (of any political persuasion) regurgitated hyperbolic pablum.

Now, can we get back to the OT?

I think it is interesting that currently evidently the Japanese are concerned most about reactor 3 while the Americans are most concerned about the spent fuel pool of reactor 4. There is going to be power there soon. Maybe they will be able to cool 4’s pool once they have power. But If that pool has a leak then it will be interesting times.

Still there is a lot of ingenuity in the world cadre of engineers and I have faith the situation will ultimately be resolved. That may not be as thrilling or fun to wax cataclysmic about, but folks aren’t going to just give up. Watch and see.

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