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Participant[quote=anxvariety]
You’d be surprised.. some HR journal must have said something about requiring degrees being a good idea. I’ve never seen more jobs in IT that are requiring degrees. Often times those requirements are firm enough to prevent a discussion on the subject from coming up.[/quote]I think that simply a side-effect of the recession. The employers have more purchasing power, at the moment, so they are making the most of it. Unemployed engineers are really no different than any other distressed asset when you think about it.
A reason I’ve largely avoided employment troubles is that I’ve always been honest about my credentials with any potential employer and been very competitive re: compensation. Given that I don’t have the burden of student loan debt I consider this a fair bargain.
So while I may not have made bank during the boom years, at least I’ve managed to keep my job, bennies and sanity!
Participant[quote=anxvariety]
You’d be surprised.. some HR journal must have said something about requiring degrees being a good idea. I’ve never seen more jobs in IT that are requiring degrees. Often times those requirements are firm enough to prevent a discussion on the subject from coming up.[/quote]I think that simply a side-effect of the recession. The employers have more purchasing power, at the moment, so they are making the most of it. Unemployed engineers are really no different than any other distressed asset when you think about it.
A reason I’ve largely avoided employment troubles is that I’ve always been honest about my credentials with any potential employer and been very competitive re: compensation. Given that I don’t have the burden of student loan debt I consider this a fair bargain.
So while I may not have made bank during the boom years, at least I’ve managed to keep my job, bennies and sanity!
Participant[quote=anxvariety]
You’d be surprised.. some HR journal must have said something about requiring degrees being a good idea. I’ve never seen more jobs in IT that are requiring degrees. Often times those requirements are firm enough to prevent a discussion on the subject from coming up.[/quote]I think that simply a side-effect of the recession. The employers have more purchasing power, at the moment, so they are making the most of it. Unemployed engineers are really no different than any other distressed asset when you think about it.
A reason I’ve largely avoided employment troubles is that I’ve always been honest about my credentials with any potential employer and been very competitive re: compensation. Given that I don’t have the burden of student loan debt I consider this a fair bargain.
So while I may not have made bank during the boom years, at least I’ve managed to keep my job, bennies and sanity!
Participant[quote=anxvariety]
You’d be surprised.. some HR journal must have said something about requiring degrees being a good idea. I’ve never seen more jobs in IT that are requiring degrees. Often times those requirements are firm enough to prevent a discussion on the subject from coming up.[/quote]I think that simply a side-effect of the recession. The employers have more purchasing power, at the moment, so they are making the most of it. Unemployed engineers are really no different than any other distressed asset when you think about it.
A reason I’ve largely avoided employment troubles is that I’ve always been honest about my credentials with any potential employer and been very competitive re: compensation. Given that I don’t have the burden of student loan debt I consider this a fair bargain.
So while I may not have made bank during the boom years, at least I’ve managed to keep my job, bennies and sanity!
Participant[quote=JEEscondido]
I never understood why IT people, many with no degree, made substantially more than mechanical/electrical engineers, chemists, etc. many with advanced degrees. Maybe we’re finally seeing “reversion to the mean” for salaries in IT. [/quote]That would be me!
Its simply a matter of supply and demand. At the university where I work, a new <50k faculty position will attract thousands of applicants. All with Phd's, of course. A new 75k IT job, on the other hand, will be lucky to attract even a few good applicants. Degree or not.
I will admit that a plus of the down economy is that we are finding it easier to hire competent talent.
IT is also a young discipline. I'm only 35 and have worked under some of the pioneers in the field, including the inventor of C++. This stuff is still all pretty new and dynamic; hence competence still demands a premium.
Participant[quote=JEEscondido]
I never understood why IT people, many with no degree, made substantially more than mechanical/electrical engineers, chemists, etc. many with advanced degrees. Maybe we’re finally seeing “reversion to the mean” for salaries in IT. [/quote]That would be me!
Its simply a matter of supply and demand. At the university where I work, a new <50k faculty position will attract thousands of applicants. All with Phd's, of course. A new 75k IT job, on the other hand, will be lucky to attract even a few good applicants. Degree or not.
I will admit that a plus of the down economy is that we are finding it easier to hire competent talent.
IT is also a young discipline. I'm only 35 and have worked under some of the pioneers in the field, including the inventor of C++. This stuff is still all pretty new and dynamic; hence competence still demands a premium.
Participant[quote=JEEscondido]
I never understood why IT people, many with no degree, made substantially more than mechanical/electrical engineers, chemists, etc. many with advanced degrees. Maybe we’re finally seeing “reversion to the mean” for salaries in IT. [/quote]That would be me!
Its simply a matter of supply and demand. At the university where I work, a new <50k faculty position will attract thousands of applicants. All with Phd's, of course. A new 75k IT job, on the other hand, will be lucky to attract even a few good applicants. Degree or not.
I will admit that a plus of the down economy is that we are finding it easier to hire competent talent.
IT is also a young discipline. I'm only 35 and have worked under some of the pioneers in the field, including the inventor of C++. This stuff is still all pretty new and dynamic; hence competence still demands a premium.
Participant[quote=JEEscondido]
I never understood why IT people, many with no degree, made substantially more than mechanical/electrical engineers, chemists, etc. many with advanced degrees. Maybe we’re finally seeing “reversion to the mean” for salaries in IT. [/quote]That would be me!
Its simply a matter of supply and demand. At the university where I work, a new <50k faculty position will attract thousands of applicants. All with Phd's, of course. A new 75k IT job, on the other hand, will be lucky to attract even a few good applicants. Degree or not.
I will admit that a plus of the down economy is that we are finding it easier to hire competent talent.
IT is also a young discipline. I'm only 35 and have worked under some of the pioneers in the field, including the inventor of C++. This stuff is still all pretty new and dynamic; hence competence still demands a premium.
Participant[quote=JEEscondido]
I never understood why IT people, many with no degree, made substantially more than mechanical/electrical engineers, chemists, etc. many with advanced degrees. Maybe we’re finally seeing “reversion to the mean” for salaries in IT. [/quote]That would be me!
Its simply a matter of supply and demand. At the university where I work, a new <50k faculty position will attract thousands of applicants. All with Phd's, of course. A new 75k IT job, on the other hand, will be lucky to attract even a few good applicants. Degree or not.
I will admit that a plus of the down economy is that we are finding it easier to hire competent talent.
IT is also a young discipline. I'm only 35 and have worked under some of the pioneers in the field, including the inventor of C++. This stuff is still all pretty new and dynamic; hence competence still demands a premium.
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