[jstoesz]

I would like to mention something that seems to be unmentioned, but painfully obvious to me at least, a married man (somewhat new by some perspectives, so maybe that explains my idealism and naivety).

The point, the reason, the intention of marriage is not for self fulfillment of ones “needs” or appetites. It is to create something that is greater than oneself. It is to provide man some semblance of a purpose in life. To create a unit geared toward making the world a better place. Primarily through the betterment of one’s children, but more immediately the betterment of one’s self and spouse’s self. It is the most obvious and natural way in which man can accomplish this. Nothing in life that is worthwhile is easy, nothing! I would contend that successful marriages are so difficult, because they are one of the most worthwhile things a man can do. But in turn then, they must be difficult.

Many of you who contend that cheating is in our nature and therefore no big deal, miss the fact that lots of things are in our nature and a really big deal. People are capable of violent hateful things in addition to being capable of great acts of charity. Murder is certainly in our nature, but that does not make it justifiable. I have a desire to drink lots of beer and eat lots of pizza (thankfully, my wife mentions this often) and if I let my appetite reign supreme I would be a fat lazy sob unable to do the things I love doing most.

Difficulty builds character, and a marriage with a well matched partner will breed character no doubt. But those who cheat are the ones who really lack the character. For what its worth, many who don’t cheat have no character either, but lack the balls to go through with their wishes.

:climbing down from the soapbox:

[jstoesz]

I would like to mention something that seems to be unmentioned, but painfully obvious to me at least, a married man (somewhat new by some perspectives, so maybe that explains my idealism and naivety).

The point, the reason, the intention of marriage is not for self fulfillment of ones “needs” or appetites. It is to create something that is greater than oneself. It is to provide man some semblance of a purpose in life. To create a unit geared toward making the world a better place. Primarily through the betterment of one’s children, but more immediately the betterment of one’s self and spouse’s self. It is the most obvious and natural way in which man can accomplish this. Nothing in life that is worthwhile is easy, nothing! I would contend that successful marriages are so difficult, because they are one of the most worthwhile things a man can do. But in turn then, they must be difficult.

Many of you who contend that cheating is in our nature and therefore no big deal, miss the fact that lots of things are in our nature and a really big deal. People are capable of violent hateful things in addition to being capable of great acts of charity. Murder is certainly in our nature, but that does not make it justifiable. I have a desire to drink lots of beer and eat lots of pizza (thankfully, my wife mentions this often) and if I let my appetite reign supreme I would be a fat lazy sob unable to do the things I love doing most.

Difficulty builds character, and a marriage with a well matched partner will breed character no doubt. But those who cheat are the ones who really lack the character. For what its worth, many who don’t cheat have no character either, but lack the balls to go through with their wishes.

:climbing down from the soapbox:

[jstoesz]

I apologize in advance for my long tirade. You are right, we do tend to tirade on here. We are Pissed off.

How about a thought experiment?

CAR imagine if we had no income tax (lots of states don’t). Where do you think our economy would be? Or is our 12.3% unemployment rate completely unrelated to the restrictive government largess and high taxes that go to pay for it? Is it all the fault of the financial sector?

I found myself agreeing with everything you said starting out, but then in every post I have seen you find yourself in the curious position of defending those middle managers. You accuse everyone of not knowing the facts, and you are right. We do not know everything about the details of these employees jobs duties or the pych problems related. But there are some facts that cause the average Californian to want to go on a witch hunt and for good reason.

1. We are one of the highest taxed states in the country.
2. We have the highest budget deficit in the country.
3. We pay a lot more for lower quality services than most states (prison guards are a great example).

So why would we look to the financial sector to reform (and it clearly needs to be reformed), when clearly our state government is corrupt beyond measure. Maybe we shouldn’t point figures at jobs we do not know all the intricacies of, but we are on a witch hunt because of those simple facts. And until those facts are no longer true statements, I and many like me will want blood.

I grow tired of pointing out your false link between financial sector reform and government reform. They both need to happen, but financial reform is not a precondition for government reform.

On top of all of this. Instead of getting in there and canning some wasteful middle managers and reforming pension spikes and double dipping, all we get is furloughs (man I would love a furlough) and closed state parks in an effort to bully us into higher taxes. It is enough to make you want to lash out at everything.

[jstoesz]

I apologize in advance for my long tirade. You are right, we do tend to tirade on here. We are Pissed off.

How about a thought experiment?

CAR imagine if we had no income tax (lots of states don’t). Where do you think our economy would be? Or is our 12.3% unemployment rate completely unrelated to the restrictive government largess and high taxes that go to pay for it? Is it all the fault of the financial sector?

I found myself agreeing with everything you said starting out, but then in every post I have seen you find yourself in the curious position of defending those middle managers. You accuse everyone of not knowing the facts, and you are right. We do not know everything about the details of these employees jobs duties or the pych problems related. But there are some facts that cause the average Californian to want to go on a witch hunt and for good reason.

1. We are one of the highest taxed states in the country.
2. We have the highest budget deficit in the country.
3. We pay a lot more for lower quality services than most states (prison guards are a great example).

So why would we look to the financial sector to reform (and it clearly needs to be reformed), when clearly our state government is corrupt beyond measure. Maybe we shouldn’t point figures at jobs we do not know all the intricacies of, but we are on a witch hunt because of those simple facts. And until those facts are no longer true statements, I and many like me will want blood.

I grow tired of pointing out your false link between financial sector reform and government reform. They both need to happen, but financial reform is not a precondition for government reform.

On top of all of this. Instead of getting in there and canning some wasteful middle managers and reforming pension spikes and double dipping, all we get is furloughs (man I would love a furlough) and closed state parks in an effort to bully us into higher taxes. It is enough to make you want to lash out at everything.

[jstoesz]

I apologize in advance for my long tirade. You are right, we do tend to tirade on here. We are Pissed off.

How about a thought experiment?

CAR imagine if we had no income tax (lots of states don’t). Where do you think our economy would be? Or is our 12.3% unemployment rate completely unrelated to the restrictive government largess and high taxes that go to pay for it? Is it all the fault of the financial sector?

I found myself agreeing with everything you said starting out, but then in every post I have seen you find yourself in the curious position of defending those middle managers. You accuse everyone of not knowing the facts, and you are right. We do not know everything about the details of these employees jobs duties or the pych problems related. But there are some facts that cause the average Californian to want to go on a witch hunt and for good reason.

1. We are one of the highest taxed states in the country.
2. We have the highest budget deficit in the country.
3. We pay a lot more for lower quality services than most states (prison guards are a great example).

So why would we look to the financial sector to reform (and it clearly needs to be reformed), when clearly our state government is corrupt beyond measure. Maybe we shouldn’t point figures at jobs we do not know all the intricacies of, but we are on a witch hunt because of those simple facts. And until those facts are no longer true statements, I and many like me will want blood.

I grow tired of pointing out your false link between financial sector reform and government reform. They both need to happen, but financial reform is not a precondition for government reform.

On top of all of this. Instead of getting in there and canning some wasteful middle managers and reforming pension spikes and double dipping, all we get is furloughs (man I would love a furlough) and closed state parks in an effort to bully us into higher taxes. It is enough to make you want to lash out at everything.

[jstoesz]

I apologize in advance for my long tirade. You are right, we do tend to tirade on here. We are Pissed off.

How about a thought experiment?

CAR imagine if we had no income tax (lots of states don’t). Where do you think our economy would be? Or is our 12.3% unemployment rate completely unrelated to the restrictive government largess and high taxes that go to pay for it? Is it all the fault of the financial sector?

I found myself agreeing with everything you said starting out, but then in every post I have seen you find yourself in the curious position of defending those middle managers. You accuse everyone of not knowing the facts, and you are right. We do not know everything about the details of these employees jobs duties or the pych problems related. But there are some facts that cause the average Californian to want to go on a witch hunt and for good reason.

1. We are one of the highest taxed states in the country.
2. We have the highest budget deficit in the country.
3. We pay a lot more for lower quality services than most states (prison guards are a great example).

So why would we look to the financial sector to reform (and it clearly needs to be reformed), when clearly our state government is corrupt beyond measure. Maybe we shouldn’t point figures at jobs we do not know all the intricacies of, but we are on a witch hunt because of those simple facts. And until those facts are no longer true statements, I and many like me will want blood.

I grow tired of pointing out your false link between financial sector reform and government reform. They both need to happen, but financial reform is not a precondition for government reform.

On top of all of this. Instead of getting in there and canning some wasteful middle managers and reforming pension spikes and double dipping, all we get is furloughs (man I would love a furlough) and closed state parks in an effort to bully us into higher taxes. It is enough to make you want to lash out at everything.

[jstoesz]

I apologize in advance for my long tirade. You are right, we do tend to tirade on here. We are Pissed off.

How about a thought experiment?

CAR imagine if we had no income tax (lots of states don’t). Where do you think our economy would be? Or is our 12.3% unemployment rate completely unrelated to the restrictive government largess and high taxes that go to pay for it? Is it all the fault of the financial sector?

I found myself agreeing with everything you said starting out, but then in every post I have seen you find yourself in the curious position of defending those middle managers. You accuse everyone of not knowing the facts, and you are right. We do not know everything about the details of these employees jobs duties or the pych problems related. But there are some facts that cause the average Californian to want to go on a witch hunt and for good reason.

1. We are one of the highest taxed states in the country.
2. We have the highest budget deficit in the country.
3. We pay a lot more for lower quality services than most states (prison guards are a great example).

So why would we look to the financial sector to reform (and it clearly needs to be reformed), when clearly our state government is corrupt beyond measure. Maybe we shouldn’t point figures at jobs we do not know all the intricacies of, but we are on a witch hunt because of those simple facts. And until those facts are no longer true statements, I and many like me will want blood.

I grow tired of pointing out your false link between financial sector reform and government reform. They both need to happen, but financial reform is not a precondition for government reform.

On top of all of this. Instead of getting in there and canning some wasteful middle managers and reforming pension spikes and double dipping, all we get is furloughs (man I would love a furlough) and closed state parks in an effort to bully us into higher taxes. It is enough to make you want to lash out at everything.

[jstoesz]

renters pay prop taxes too, only the prop manager is the tax collector…

It doesn’t matter how we are taxed, only that we are taxed so much for so little benefit.

[jstoesz]

renters pay prop taxes too, only the prop manager is the tax collector…

It doesn’t matter how we are taxed, only that we are taxed so much for so little benefit.

[jstoesz]

renters pay prop taxes too, only the prop manager is the tax collector…

It doesn’t matter how we are taxed, only that we are taxed so much for so little benefit.

[jstoesz]

renters pay prop taxes too, only the prop manager is the tax collector…

It doesn’t matter how we are taxed, only that we are taxed so much for so little benefit.

[jstoesz]

renters pay prop taxes too, only the prop manager is the tax collector…

It doesn’t matter how we are taxed, only that we are taxed so much for so little benefit.

[jstoesz]

[quote=sdrealtor]Again, not immune just far more resilient and certainly nowhere near a 1:1 or even 1:3 relationship thats all. While it could and probably will make a dent, expecting something like this to make a big dent is a folly.[/quote]

I agree with that completely…what’s 1%, a few hundred a month?

[jstoesz]

[quote=sdrealtor]Again, not immune just far more resilient and certainly nowhere near a 1:1 or even 1:3 relationship thats all. While it could and probably will make a dent, expecting something like this to make a big dent is a folly.[/quote]

I agree with that completely…what’s 1%, a few hundred a month?

[jstoesz]

[quote=sdrealtor]Again, not immune just far more resilient and certainly nowhere near a 1:1 or even 1:3 relationship thats all. While it could and probably will make a dent, expecting something like this to make a big dent is a folly.[/quote]

I agree with that completely…what’s 1%, a few hundred a month?

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